February 01 2013

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Learn From the Right Teacher - Talks From The Kathopanishad

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In today’s morning satsang, Paramahamsa Nithyananda interprets the 8th verse of chapter 2 of Katopanishad. Spiritual wisdom can never be grasped unless it is taught by an enlightened being. It can be realized only beyond logical reason, imprinted into the bone marrow. Thus, the four tattvas can only be taught by one who is living them completely. Only one who has accomplished authenticity can become an acharya. The way to discern whether a devotee has achieved authenticity is to note whether he can listen. If he listens patiently without any tiredness to every speaker, he is integrated and has found his authenticity. Then he is able to effectively transmit the truth to others.

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(00:34)

sadāshiva samārambām jñāna sambandha madhyamām | asmadācharya paryanthām vande guru paramparām || I welcome you all with My love and respects. I welcome all the devotees, disciples, Samajis, Satsangis sitting with us around the world at this moment 434 places through Nithyananda TV and 48 places two-way video conferencing having Nayana Deeksha in 233 cities in 26 countries around the world.

(01:26)

Cities sitting with us in two-way video conferencing having Nayana Deeksha; Thiruvannamalai, Vancover-Puri, Toronto-Kailasam, Seatle-Chidambaram, San Jose-Madurai, Sharjah, Ohio-Prayag, Los Angeles-Arunachalam, Hyderabad-Bhagyanagaram, Oklahoma-Somanatham, Phoenix-Kanchipuram, Hyderabad-Shree, Sunnyvale-California; “Who is that?” “Ah okay”. London-Kashi, Devon-UK, Pondicherry City centre, Alwarpet-Chennai, Oman-Sivagangai, Mangalore, Hollywood-Los Angeles, Satur, Lunas-Malaysia, Dubai-Thirukovilur, Hong Kong-Sirkazhi, Lawspet-Pondicherry, Worksop-UK, and Black… Black Diamond; “Am I right?” Black diamond-Canada; “What is the next city?” Tiruvottiyur, Slovakia-Koshitse, Adyar-Chennai, Nithyananda Vidyalaya-Bangalore, Kulim-Malaysia, Priyankananda-Malaysia; “Then? hmmm…?” Guadalupe-Rameshwaram, Singapore-Singapuram, NewYork-Varanasi, Chicago; “Chicago has no spiritual name Ma? They are running a centre for quite a long time nah? “Chicago, I never gave a spiritual name?” Bengaluru-Malleswaram, Madrid-Spain; “Next to Madrid, what is that?” Monterrey-Mexico, Torrex… Oh! Austin, Bangalore-Marathahalli, Dakota Dunes, Paris-Kalighat, Brooklyn-London, Louisville-Kentucky, Tucson-Arizona, Atlanta- Ujjaini. “Hmmm… already read out Dakota Dunes and any other centres?” “Oh… Oh! today Nirahara Samyama starting”.

(04:09)

I welcome you all with My love and blessings. Today, Nirahara Samyama 1st level, 1st day, 8th batch. We are inaugurating 8th Batch Nirahara Samyama 1st level, 1st day. I would like to remind you guys, Nirahara Samyama is a powerful Spiritual process to liberate you from all the food patterns. So the first-level Nirahara Samyama will be 48 hours from today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow morning, we will break the fast. After a one or two-day break we will start the second level. Great!

(05:34)

Blessings to Satur, that MVPCR family; blessings for the Muhurta Kaal and Homa. Blessings! The Kumbhabhishekam will happen successfully. Blessings! Blessings to the whole Zamin family. MVPCR குடும்பத்தாற்கு இன்றைய பந்தக்கால் நிகழ்ச்சிக்கும், கும்பாபிஷேகத்திற்கான ஹோமங்கள் துவக்கத்திற்க்கும் பூரண ஆசிர்வாதம். கும்பாபிஷேகம் இனிமையாக நடைப்பெறும், நல்லபடியாக நடந்தேறும், எல்லோர்க்கு பூரண ஆசிர்வாதம். MVPCR ஜமீன் குடும்பத்திற்கும் ஆசிர்வாதம்.

(06:26)

Today, Brahmanyam Bahuputrataam, happening successfully, 7th day. Yes, now I can see Mahakumbh Puri, Mahakumbh Puri Prayag! Mahakumbh Puri Prayag; Blessings to Mahakumbh Puri Ashram. Blessings! Great. Literally we have a mobile Temple, the whole set goes and lands and Nithyanandeshwara just fills the whole place, beautiful; hmmm… As on now we have 52 applications, still applications are coming for Nirahara Samyama. Today I will be initiating all of you guys, all the 52 applicants into the first level Nirahara Samyama after the Satsang.

(08:02)

Lets enter into Satsang. I will continue on authenticity with Kathopanishad. 2nd chapter, 8th verse, I will expand. Yesterday I started the 8th verse of 2nd chapter. Today I will expand on it. 2nd chapter 8th verse of Kathopanishad; Gurukul kids; Gurukul… न नरेणावरेण प्रोक्त एष

   सुविज्ञेयो बहुधा चिन्त्यमानः ।

अनन्यप्रोक्ते गतिरत्र नास्ति

   अणीयान् ह्यतर्क्यमणुप्रमाणात् ॥ ८॥

na nareṇā̍varena prokta eṣa su̱vijñeyo bahudhā̍ cintyamānaḥ | ana̍nya-pro̱kte gatir a̍tra nāsty a̱ṇīyān hy a̍tarkyam a̱ṇupra̍māṇāt || 8 || The translation: When taught by an un… unenlightened being, this Atman cannot be truly known, even though frequently thought upon. There is no way to know it unless it is taught by an enlightened being, an Incarnation, for it is subtler than subtlest and beyond argument.

(10:12)

Understand there are some things which has to be taught by the bone marrow, just by you breathing, just by you living it. An unenlightened being will not be able to teach the subtlest truths unless your whole cognizance becomes conscious cognizance you will not be able to teach, you will be caught. Just yesterday I was telling in the Brahmanyam Bahuputrataam about Ma Maneesha’s patience. Listening, listening, listening for days together. Unless you become authentic to listening you will feel agitated, bored, irritated; will not listen. You will try to jump. I was observing her for last so many days, not even one conversation she is trying to wind up quickly. Many time even I will say, “Ay! Come to the point straight” that may be useful for different purpose but when you do this kind of work especially helping an individual to find their root thought pattern of suffering, you need a tremendous listening. For last 17 days she is listening. I am so happy she is not shown tiredness even for a moment because she never had a tiredness.

(13:06)

I tell you guys if I see that in you guys I know you have become authentic, all of you have become authentic because when you develop listening, you will not be able to carry inauthenticity in you, lack of Integrity in you because the lack of Integrity if you are carrying that will be heard by you again and again. Listen, only when you are not listening to you, you can carry, lack of integrity in you. If you are listening to you, the cry will be too much, you will see to it you complete it. Why do you stop listening to you? Because too much crying inside. The suffering is too much.

(14:00)

One of My Brahmachari said, “I have too much pain, the day I… from the day I came to the Ashram still I have not done anything big so I don’t want to come to this BB program”. All I thought is, Arey! You only have to come and sit. This is the exact pattern with which you are suffering. Unless you dig out that pattern and complete it, you are not going to get out of this suffering and I wanted to tell you he is the most sincere worker; poor fellow – Yogananda, such a sincere guy. “How many of you in the Ashram feel Yogananda is a real sincere guy?” “Yogananda, just raise your head and see, look around. How many votes for you!” And I will vote for him. I will vote for Yogananda but this poor guy, he is suffering with this one pattern. See till this pattern leaves him, he will not have that Completion, the joy of participating in My Sangha. He delivers so much, he does so much work, still the joy of being part of My Sangha is not granted to him because he suffers with this root pattern.

(15:36)

If he listens to him, he will complete that pattern, he will come out of it, he will become authentic but what to do this guy is stubborn and I have never seen him resist… any resistance. In My whole… his life around Me. “I don’t know… How many years?” 5 years! I have never seen him resisting. So I could not force him. I said, “Alright! Leave it. Don’t… Don’t tell anything to him”. He never said no… not only no to Me, to anybody. He is the one, stood by Me so much. So when he wants to resist. I said, “Alright! Let him have that play, it’s okay. He is… he is qualified”. “Aye! Don’t show him too much, he is feeling shy!”

(16:40)

No, I tell you, he is My very extension, hmmm… he is My very extension. Never, never, never I have seen him resisting for anything! Anything! But this poor guy is caught in this one engram, “I am not delivering”. “Maneesha, if he does not come to the class, it’s okay. At least sit with him and help him to find the source of that pattern”. “Aye! If you don’t want to come to the class, it’s okay, but at least sit with her, hmmm… for sometime and find that ro… source of that pattern”. He is always there for Me and always there in the background. Never pushing Me. Never asked for attention, never asked for anything. Will not even ask, like things like, “I will come to Kumbha Mela” or “I will come to Tiruvannamalai”, even those things but the only pattern this fellow carries is, “That I am not delivering”. Please understand, I want all of you to enrich out of Completion. All the work he does with this mood, “I am not delivering”, may be work but does not give him the fulfill… Poornatva, fulfillment of being part of Me. I feel he is part of Me and poor fellow he is not feeling he is part… he is part of Me, that’s a very sad thing. There are very few whom I think, they are part of Me and they don’t feel they are part of Me.

(19:07)

Listening, listening… I tell you, listening just transforms you. If you are listening, you will not be inauthentic and you will not have lack of Integrity because even one lack of Integrity step you take, immediately, “Aye! Aye! Aye! Aye!… Stop! Stop! Stop!… Come back, come back, come back, come to the Completion”. You will come back to Completion, from there you will function, you will move. This Tatvas I am sharing with you all can be taught only by the guy who lives it. I am so happy I made a fool proof system, I will not have pseudo teachers now. The system is such, only if you are in Completion, you are in Purnatva again and again and again you will be able to teach it to others, otherwise not.

(20:20)

Suddenly, I am seeing, our Kalabhairava is having full fledged garland, new-new dress, the lamp, full decoration much more than Anandeshwara, Nithyanandeshwara; of course both are one and the same. I am saying more than Nithyanandeshwara deity in the temple Kalabhairava is having ev… all the glory. I said, he earned it on his own right and merit. The way he blesses people and brings joy to people’s life otherwise sitting in the centre of the… thousands of atheists; no, really. Now I am seeing whether they go to Nithyanandeshwara or not. They all go to Kalabhairava now. He is able to prove his power and his presence. I decided we will have a beautiful temple for him and we will also have a silver Kavacham, gold Kavacham and everything we will do the wo… sh… work. We will start.

(21:59)

Some people go there out of devotion, some go there out of fear, “Ay! Better to have ourself in good books with him”; Jagrath… Jagrath Devata, just... and I also feel when people become more and more authentic, they are able to feel connected to Kalabhairava. Kalabhairava is Guru. Nithyanandeshwara is more like a father, mother, he tolerates everything but with Kalabhairava people behave he is Guru; Ay! He is Guru. No, everyday night I am seeing he has so many lamps around him, and big-big garlands around him, he is wearing new-new dresses and fully highly maintained, clean with his Vibhooti-Kumkum. I think he has his own Pujaris also, “Am I right?”, “Or main temple Pujaris do?” I think people do it on their own; hmmm… We will keep Kalabhairava as the deity main… to people to do Puja on their own. Let them offer whatever they want on their own; hmmm… Anyhow, why do you think? Because of… he expresses his Authenticity…

(23:35)

“Now I can see some more cities joining – Scottsdale, Durango and Dhyanatma”. “Durango, which country?” “And Dhyanatma. Yes, Blessings!”

(23:52)

Understand, only when you are able to live this Tatvas, you can even teach. I am so happy, automatically the quality of our Acharyas have increased because this Tatvas you can never teach unless you live it. You cannot just do like a Guaranteed Solution, memorize, mug up and go and blast and come back and live as you want. No, you cannot... You cannot do it. Now I can see the Authenticity of the organization structure, and the qualification of Acharyas, healers, everything is drastically rising because this Tatvas cannot be taught by unenlightened being. To teach this Tatvas you have to become, certain level of Enlightened, only then you can even teach this Tatvas; and you will be stuck where your Enlightenment is stuck. See Enlightenment is like a constant expansion. If you are stuck for somebody’s question, understand you are stuck same… for same question inside you.

(25:31)

Integrity – if you are authentically integrated, you will not give a single false promise to you and false promise to others. Literally you will be moving around unclutched. You may not have destroyed your mind but you will have the mind only to use whenever you need. “How many of you cognize after you started practicing Authenticity and Integrity, the quality of your Unclutching has become at least ten times more?” “The quality of your Unclutching has increased, that’s a truth”. When you authentically practice Integrity and Authenticity, the Unclutching… because the Completion level increases. Continuously consciously cognizing, the incompletions are getting healed. Completions are rising.

(27:03)

न नरेणावरेण प्रोक्त एष

   सुविज्ञेयो बहुधा चिन्त्यमानः ।

अनन्यप्रोक्ते गतिरत्र नास्ति

   अणीयान् ह्यतर्क्यमणुप्रमाणात् ॥ ८॥

na nareṇā̍varena prokta eṣa su̱vijñeyo bahudhā̍ cintyamānaḥ | ana̍nya-pro̱kte gatir a̍tra nāsty a̱ṇīyān hy a̍tarkyam a̱ṇupra̍māṇāt || 8 || All over the Ashram I am seeing, listening is happening, that’s a most beautiful thing. Listening! “How many of you cognize your listening quality has increased?” I tell you when your listening quality has increased, you able to listen to you also will increase. You able to listen to you… the authentic listening of your Mamakara is Unclutching. Understand I am defining, if you are able to listen to you un… authentically, complete Integrity and Authenticity, you will be Unclutched. Listening!

(28:39)

I can see, to become a Acharya – first thing, second thing, third thing and last thing you need is listening, that’s all! Nothing else. Listening! In this Brahmanyam Bahuputrataam program itself now I know who are all going to become Acharyas – whoever is sincerely listening to the conversations happening between the person who is sharing and Ma Maneesha, all you guys are going to become Acharyas. Whoever thinks, “This is not for me. When I talk, I will listen. When Ma Maneesha talks to me, I will listen. This is not for me” and playing with something, playing with your mind, playing with so many other things, you will be helped by the program but you are not going to become Acharya. An Acharya, the basic quality for an Acharya is listening; listening; listening.

(30:11)

“न नरेणावरेण प्रोक्त एष” – If an unenlightened being teaches this truth, it cannot be known. Person who does not live this four Tatvas cannot teach, cannot teach. If he teaches, you will not know. More and more and more I am defining, re-defining the subtler and subtler questions of Authenticity and Integrity – How do you think? Because I am living and I am getting the questions from the people who are authentically living. Only when you live authentically authentic, you will even ask whose Anyakaara I should fulfill, whose I should not fulfill? How do I know? Means you have tried it. You have tested with it. I know the questions comes from Time tested and Space tested. There are some Tatvas, Time tested – when you test it for years you will have some questions. There are some Tatvas, Space tested – the moment you test it with your Space, you will have the questions. Based on the question, I can tell you, is it Space tested or Time tested or wasted. There are some questions, spouse tested. You don’t use it on you, you test it on your spouse. Time tested, Space tested and spouse tested. “Now I can see Ottawa-Canada also. Blessings! Oh, all of them are on for Nirahara Samyama”. Time tested, Space tested, spouse tested and wasted. Tatvas… the questions… the questions… The questions you raise is enough proof – have you started living the Tatvas or not.

(33:42)

I have a story to tell you – A man feared his wife was not hearing, as well as she used to; and he thought she might need a hearing aid; not quite sure how to approach her.

If you tell your spouse you need a hearing aid, that’s all! You will lose your hearing. You may need one.

So he called the family Doctor to discuss the problem.

The Doctor told him there is a simple informal test the husband could perform to give the Doctor a better idea about her hearing loss.

The Doctor says, “Here is what you do. Stand about 40 feet away from her, and ask her a question, in a normal conversational speaking tone, see whether she hears it or not. If not, go to 30 feet, if not then go to 20 feet, and so on until you get a response”.

This guy thought, “After all the test is harmless and I can do it very nicely, informally”.

The evening, the wife is in the kitchen cooking dinner, and he was in the den.

He says to himself, “I am about 40 feet away, let’s see what happens!”.

Then in a normal tone he asks, “Honey, what is for dinner?” No response.

Husband moves closer to kitchen, about 30 feet from his wife and repeats, “Honey, what is for dinner?” Still no response.

Next he moves to the dining room where he is about 20 feet from his wife and asks, “Honey, what is for dinner?” Again no response.

So he walks up to the kitchen door, about 10 feet away. Asks, “Honey, what is for dinner?” Again no response.

He walks right up behind her, next to her. “Honey, what is for dinner?”

She says, “Earl (the name of her husband) honey for the fifth time I am telling you chicken!”

Understand who needs hearing aid. If your hearing is impaired, you need hearing aid. If your listening is impaired, you need Authenticity.

Listening aid is Authenticity. When you bring Authenticity, you start listening. When you bring Integrity, you start listening. Listening! Listening!

(38:17)

न नरेणावरेण प्रोक्त एष

   सुविज्ञेयो बहुधा चिन्त्यमानः ।

अनन्यप्रोक्ते गतिरत्र नास्ति

   अणीयान् ह्यतर्क्यमणुप्रमाणात् ॥ ८॥

na nareṇā̍varena prokta eṣa su̱vijñeyo bahudhā̍ cintyamānaḥ | ana̍nya-pro̱kte gatir a̍tra nāsty a̱ṇīyān hy a̍tarkyam a̱ṇupra̍māṇāt || 8 || When taught by an unenlightened being, this Atman cannot be truly known, this Tatva cannot be truly known even though frequently thought upon – even if you think again & again about it, it will not be known to you. It will not become part of you. There is no way to know unless it is taught by an Enlightened being, an Incarnation, for it is subtler than the subtlest and beyond argument. At one point, you just need to feel the peop… the person who is teaching you is living it. You need to feel, not convinced; not to be convinced, you need to feel he is living it. He is living it. Only if it is taught by an Enlightened being, an Incarnation, you get it because it is subtler than the subtlest and beyond argument. Subtler than the subtlest and beyond argument.

(41:00)

We will move to the next verse. Next verse, 2nd chapter, 9th verse: “Gurukul –” नैषा तर्केण मतिरापनेया प्रोक्तान्येनैव सुज्ञानाय प्रेष्ठ । यां त्वमापः सत्यधृतिर्बतासि त्वादृङ्नो भूयान्नचिकेतः प्रष्टा ॥ ९॥ naiṣā tarkeṇa matirāpaneyā proktānyenaiva sujñānāya preṣṭha . yāṃ tvamāpaḥ satyadhṛtirbatāsi tvādṛṅno bhūyānnaciketaḥ praṣṭā ॥ 9॥ The translation: “O Dearest, this Atman cannot be attained by argument; It is truly known only when taught by another (a wise teacher). O Nachiketa, thou hast attained It. Thou art fixed in Truth. May we ever find a questioner like you”. Wow! He says, “Oh dearest!” First time he is expressing his love! I can never imagine Yama Dharma saying, “Oh dearest”.

(43:02)

नैषा तर्केण मतिरापनेया प्रोक्तान्येनैव सुज्ञानाय प्रेष्ठ । यां त्वमापः सत्यधृतिर्बतासि त्वादृङ्नो भूयान्नचिकेतः प्रष्टा ॥ ९॥ naiṣā tarkeṇa matirāpaneyā proktānyenaiva sujñānāya preṣṭha . yāṃ tvamāpaḥ satyadhṛtirbatāsi tvādṛṅno bhūyānnaciketaḥ praṣṭā ॥ 9॥ He says, “O Dearest, this Atman cannot be attained by argument; It is truly known only when taught by a person who is living it, who has become it; Only when you listen from a person who has become it”.

(44:50)

From tomorrow, Ashramites also will chant verses. You can memorize one verse, it’s not a problem; maximum I speak on one or two verses. So I wanted to stop with this verse because tomorrow I wanted all of you to chant this verse then I will expand on it. With this I move to the next step of the… next part of the morning Satsang, “Dial the Avatar”.

(45:30)