February 25 2008

Title:

Go Beyond The Mind, Unclutch Discourse Part 1

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In this video SPH JGM Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashivam explains consciousness and its role in unclutching®. SPH explains that the ultimate is not final, which means that although unclutching® is the ultimate solution, it is a continuous practice. From the space of unclutching® we can be constantly expanding and embodying the space of living enlightenment, being unclutched®.

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(0:17)

I welcome you all with My love and respects. Thank you for the introduction and inviting Me, but the last statement is little controversial. People ask Me, “Are you God?” Question is the question from time immemorial. All the Masters are...this question is a very tricky question. Whenever people ask Me, “Are you God?” I again and again tell them, “I am not here to prove I am God. I am here to prove you are God.” So whether I am or not is no way directly related to your life. But one thing is sure. We are all, everybody carries that glimpse, carries that truth inside us.

(01:09)

We heard in the introduction about the Kabir’s verses, beautiful verses. When you are awakened, we really feel we are God. It’s not egoistic statement. Please understand, it is not egoistic feeling. Being focused is the side effect of dynamic Consciousness. Being focussed in the world does not mean that this is the only reality. In the dynamic Consciousness, you will have your inner space experiencing this world intensely, intensely focussed. At the same time, you will be experiencing the truth which is beyond this world what we call God or divinity or whatever it is.

(02:11)

I will try to share few truths-Satyas. We will analyse it with our questions. We’ll try to internalise it by questioning. Then we may be able to enter into a meditation technique to experience the truth. First few things I want to present in front of you. Satya, in vedanta we have three steps: Shravana, manana, nidhidhyasana. Shravana means listening. Manana means contemplating or questioning, internalising, internalising. Nidhidhyasana means living it, expressing it. Few basic truths: We carry two identities. One, the identity which we project to the outer world, how we want the world to know, how we want to present ourself to the world, how we want the world to remember us. We call this, the word ‘ahankara.’ Second-’mamakara’: The identity which we believe as we inside our heart. The identity which we want to project to the outer world and the identity which we believe as we inside us. This we call ‘mamakar.’ The whole life is nothing but the fight between this ‘ahankar’ and ‘mamakar’. The identity which we want to project to the outer world and the identity which we believe as we.

(03:51)

The big problem is, people who think the identity which we want to project to the outer world is the reality, they become materialistic. They spend their whole life to fulfill that identity, to make that identity into reality, to make that personality into reality. I think in your profession, you will see this kind of people enough. The people who want to prove the outer world identity as a reality. The second group-people who start believing the identity which they believe inside as reality. They only become, I can say that kind of a religious people or yogis, constantly chiselling themselves, constantly trying to develop themself.

(04:47)

The identity which you project to the outer world will be always much more than what you are. It will always be much more than what you are. You will try always to project something more than what is and the identity you believe as you in the inner world will always be lower than what you are. You will continuously condemning, criticising, judging you. It will always be much lower than what you are. One group who believes the identity which you project to the outer world-the ahankar, they become materialistic. The other group who believe the mamakar-the identity which you believe as you that as reality, that people, they become kind of a religious people or we can say that yogis, continuously chiselling themself, continuously working on themself, continuously trying to develop themself.

(05:47)

Very few realise the truth neither the identity which you project to the outer world is reality nor the identity which you believe as you is reality. People who realise both are not reality, both have no base, they experience the true liberation. I call them as ‘paramahamsas’ or people who live Enlightenment. Please understand, people who seek Enlightenment never live Enlightenment. Seeking Enlightenment is completely different from living Enlightenment. Seeking Enlightenment means continuously trying to chisel that the ‘mamakar’, the identity which you believe as you in the inner being, trying to develop it.

(06:39)

I have seen people working on their personality for thirty years or forty years, repeating some mantra or some technique or some method or some reading or some form of spiritual exercises or the self development techniques, some form. See, in the spiritual exercises, there are two things. Portable knowledge which gives you a kind of feel-good feeling which is used in the modern days in the training seminars and self development programs. Now thousands of kinds of yoga, self development programs have come up. In U.S., yoga is a six billion dollar industry. I was surprised. Six billion dollar industry in U.S. yoga, because the portable knowledge can be easily packed and sold, the self development techniques.

(07:45)

There is another one, the second part-non portable experience. Yoga is not just replacing anacin or metacin. The meditation is not just to replace your anti-depression medications. It has its own depth. It is much deeper than physical and mental well being. It has its depth. That depth only I call non-portable experience. See, the first group never bothers about spirituality-the materialistic group. People who believe only the ahankar as reality. The second group who believe as mamakar as reality, they go on using continuously some methods, techniques. I call that as a portable knowledge. Of course, this gives you a feel-good feeling. It really gives you a feel-good feeling for two days, if you do some kind of kriya or pranayam or yoga and all these things, wonderful! Nothing wrong. It gives you a feel-good feeling for few days but I feel the spirituality, the traditional knowledge, research and development which went on in this country for last ten thousand years in the inner science can contribute something more than feel-good feeling to you.

(09:07)

Please understand, I am not against yoga or pranayam or all these things. These are all beautiful but we have something much more, which can contribute more to your being than a simple feel-good feeling. At least last ten thousand years, in India, the research in the inner science went on, can say millions of inner scientists and at least one crore inner science laboratories we have in India. More than one crore living ashrams and temples where this science is continuously practiced by at least one billion people. So this great technology, this great tradition has something deeper, more sacred to offer to us. It has something more for us.

(10:06)

Understanding that ahankar is illusion is very easy because it has something to do with the outer world. You have to struggle. The moment you need to struggle to show what you want to show, you realise or you have the time and experiences to contemplate, sit and contemplate, ‘I think what I am trying to project is never going to be fulfilled or it is never going to become reality.’ At some time, you will have the time or experiences to contemplate, to look in but if you start fighting with your mamakar, if you start chiselling your mamakar, start developing your mamakar, there is nobody to tell you that you are caught same race in the different direction.

(10:57)

Trying to develop the identity which you show to the outer world and trying to develop the identity which you believe as you, both are going to end in deep suffering because both does not have base. Neither ahankar nor mamakar have a base. The moment you understand these two does not have any base, these two does not have hold over your inner space, suddenly you experience such a great freedom, the liberation or the restful awareness. What J.Krishnamurti calls as ‘choiceless awareness’. That awareness is the real gift from our tradition, from our great vedantic tradition. The research and development which went on in the inner science, I can say, this is the essence.

(11:56)

First thing, both identities which you carry don’t have base. They are not real. Second thing, how to go beyond these two because the moment you come out of your sleep and till the moment you fall into the dream state, continuously these two identities have a hold, have a say over you, have an influence over your being. How to unclutch from them? This is the word again and again we will be using. The word ‘unclutch’. Just like how you change the gears in the car, you see, before changing any gear, you will have to unclutch, you will have to disclutch. Whether it is from first gear to second gear or second gear to third gear or any movement, you will have to completely disclutch or unclutch from the movement.

(13:04)

Same way, any state you fall, from waking state to dream state or dream state to deep sleep state, any state you move within your inner space, you will have to unclutch. You will have to come to that zero zone. You will have to come to that neutral zone. You will have to come to that centre space. I can say that centre space which is continuously happening in you without you involving, if you can experience that centre space with your awareness, suddenly you will see, what I am calling as freedom as an experience. What I am saying as freedom means, free from these two identities.

(13:49)

In north, I have seen in the forest, in north India, forest they hang a small stick to catch birds.... Please bear with Me. Visualise this as a thread. (shows a trap to catch birds) Like this I have seen small sticks will be hanging in the forest. The hunters will put these sticks to trap the bird. You may think then how bird will be caught by this small thing? The birds will come and sit in one side. The moment it sits, because of the weight, it will become topsy turvy-upside down. And the moment the stick is upside down, the bird will be hanging. The poor bird does not understand if he lets go, he can fly. He thinks if he relaxes, he will fall and break his head and he will be continuously hanging maybe for two-three hours. The hunter will slowly come and catch the bird and put it in the cage and go.

(14:52)

Just like that bird, we also have the deep fear the moment we let go ‘I’ and ‘mine’, the ahankar and mamakar, we may become mentally imbalanced or we may not be able to run our day-to-day routine. This is the first fear. Continuously people ask Me, “Swamiji, You say relax from the identity-the two identities: the outer identity and the inner identity. You say relax from it. If we relax, how will we be able to manage our day-to-day routine? How we can think? How we can live our life?” There is no reference, there is no record, some bird relaxed and fell and broke its head. No! Just like that bird hanging with the stick, we hold on to our identity tightly, continuously because our identity is our security. That is our security. Whether in the outer world or the inner world, that is our boundary. That is our security.

(16:00)

A big problem is, for security reason only, we hold on to the identity in the initial level. But slowly, that boundary is practically like a boundary made for our bliss, our joy, our expression, our intense excitement. The boundary which we create as a security, that itself becomes a bondage or the prison for our joy, for our very being. All that bird needs is little courage to let go. Maybe that two-three second till that bird turns up and balances, it may have little chaos. It may have little difficulties. The courage to manage that two-three minutes is what I call ‘tapas’. That is what is tapas. That is what is penance. All we need to know, the identity which we project to the outer world and the identity which we believe as us, both has no base.

(17:15)

Second, trying to relax, you see, when you understand that both have no base, both have no direct use to your life, it does not directly contribute. You can play the game in a much better way. Without these two identities. The whole game which you are playing now, the whole life, your whole day-to-day routine can be handled, managed, lived without these two identities coming into play or without these two identities being remembered in your inner space as you. If this possibility is understood, I call that as a right listening-’Shravana’ and if you are continuously contemplating and trying to live this freedom, I call that as ‘Manana’-contemplation. If you are established in that freedom, that’s what we call ‘Nidhidhyasana’ -Living Enlightenment. Just this few truths little strong maybe the truths which I expressed is little strong are straight truth. Maybe when we analyse it with the questions, with interaction, we may be able to understand or catch the glimpse of what I am trying to express. So instead of Me continuously talking, I will be happy to answer your questions. Whatever I wanted to express, when I answer, I will try to share.

(18:59)

Q: Emptiness and prior to this emptiness, there is a kind of feeling of fear. Balance of the bird upside down but how do I explain this emptiness? It is a kind of vast, it is a feeling, you begin to feel you are stupid.

(19:21)

Swamiji: I think, see, you get updated. Only when you get updated you begin to feel that you are stupid. You understand? Only when your intelligence gets updated, you feel that your past, you see, whatever you think nothing but your past. So whenever you feel that you are stupid, you are nothing, you are nobody, means what you think as you, what you think about you, your past, that has become irrelevant. Your past will become irrelevant only if your present is intense, if you are getting updated, if you are becoming something beyond what you think as you. Only then you feel your past or your old identity is stupid. I feel feeling continuously your past is stupid is the best way to be in the present. If you have a deep respect or dependence on your past, you will never be able to live in the present moment.

(20:30)

So the experience which you are going through, I think is worthy. Maybe in the initial level, it is little frightening, it is little frightening. See, one thing, we again and again confuse, get confused between learning from the past and continuously living in the past. Learning from the past happens only when you unclutch from your past experiences. When you unclutch from your past experiences, guilt, suffering, pain, the essence of your past experience, the teachings which you need to receive from your past experience will become part of your being. When we are continuously clutched to the past, only the pain, suffering, guilt will be reflecting on our being. We will never pick up the lessons or we will never pick up the juice from the past.

(21:29)

Q: Our careers and profession problem. Now as you complete experience this emptiness, this feeling of utter stupidity, like there was a time when there was a feeling like I am speaking to you. There is a voice telling me inside there is no need to speak because the truth is here and now is silence, it is not the words. There is a voice that tells me. Now I reconcile that with my work a day life when I have to be a surgeon, I have to project a certain person and person is not me. I know I am not that person rather I am witnessing that.

(22:09)

SPH: Two thing: One, you know you are not the person you are projecting but you think you are the person whom you think as you. That is what I am saying-mamakar is also a lie! You understand, mamakar is also a lie. Now unclutch from that being also. You will not have a struggle. See, struggle is between ahankar and mamakar. Either mamakar is working to project, make the ahankar reality, or the ahankar continuously criticising the mamakar is not reality. In your case, mamakar is not working to fulfill the ahankar but ahankar is continuously criticising you are not reality. That is where the problem starts.

(22:58)

Q:(not clear)

(22:59)

SPH: No, witnessing state is not mamakar. Witnessing state is beyond this both.

(23:04)

Q: Swamiji, there is times when you feel that the work is being done through you.

(23:10) SPH: I can say, I can say even that idea is nothing from mamakar. When you are beyond this ahankar and mamakar, neither you have an idea somebody is working through you nor you have an idea that you are working. Both the ideas will not be there. People ask Me, “How do you know You are Enlightened?” I tell them, “First thing, the doubt whether I am Enlightened or not has disappeared. Second thing, the idea ‘I am Enlightened’ is not there. Both will not be there. Neither you will have doubt whether you are Enlightened or not, nor you will have the doubt, nor you will have an idea that you are Enlightened. You see, with your case, the moment you have an idea somebody is working through you, it is mamakar, mamakar playing the game. actually the ahankar’s game, you will again and again reminded because the society will remind you. The mamakar’s game, nobody will remind you. That is the most dangerous game.

(28:20)

The most dangerous game is mamakar. I can say, if I have to say based on the percentage, only 10% of the people in the planet earth suffer with the games of ahankar. 90% of the people suffer with the games of mamakar. Especially in India, the religious country, the India is a great religious country whether you want or not, from the young age you have to listen ‘Rama went to the forest, Ravana kidnapped Sita,’ you have to listen. It’s your life. Ramayan and Mahabharat and all these religious scriptures. Here our suffering is more mamakar, not even ahankar. It’s more with the mamakar. Trying to continuously chisel you and trying to continuously develop the personality which is not there.

(24:56)

Q: Will not be the cessation of activity itself?

(25:00)

SPH: No, that is the main thing. See, being focussed will be the side effect of dynamic consciousness. The side effect of the dynamic consciousness will never be laziness. People ask Me, “No, no, no. If I just unclutch from both identities, will I not become lazy?” I tell them, “Just sleep for ten days, nothing wrong. Have vacation for ten days. Decide I am going to unclutch. I am going to unclutch from both the identities.” How many days you think you can sleep? How many days you think that cessation of activity will happen in you? You have kind of a you see, 33% of your body is sattva-pure silence, 33% of your body is rajas-restlessness, 33% of your body is tamas-deep sleep, the laziness. As on now, the first fear which will happen in you ‘I may become tamasic. I may become lazy person.’ Try, try to unclutch. That 33% of the laziness will be exhausted. It will disappear from your system within few days. Then what will you do? Then naturally your innate intelligence you don’t have to be driven by fear and greed to live your day-to-day life.

(26:23)

Maybe in the young age, some fear and greed is needed to drive your life but now, the maturity means being driven by inspiration but the problem is, we are never given that confidence. we are never given that courage we can live just by inspiration. We always think either there should be fear and greed or I will become lazy. It is not the case, it is not the case. We call in Sanskrit-prarabdha. Prarabdha means the karma or the desires with which you built your body. See, your very body is built with certain desires, karma, the desire or need to have certain experiences. That prarabdha is powerful and intelligent enough to inspire you and to run your life.

(27:22)

Sometime you can see, for no reason you radiate the excitement, for no reason you radiate intelligence. Those few moments can become your whole life. It doesn’t need to be a part time of your life. It can become your whole life. That trust, that’s what I call ‘Bhakti’. When you start trusting you that your prarabdha is intelligent enough to play your whole life, when you start understanding just by unclutching, your very being can run your life. That’s what I call ‘Atmabhakti’-the devotion, trust. maybe in the initial level, first few days, what I call the tapas period, you may have little imbalance. I feel it is worth undergoing. It is worth. Just few days just rest. Decide let whatever happens let it happen. Yes..

(28:20)

Title:

Drop The Idea Of You, Unclutch Discourse Part 2

Description:

In this session, SPH JGM Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashivam expands on the concept of prarabdha and introduces two new terms: agamya, and sanchita, and gives us the science, in this context of identity, on how to achieve liberation. Some various powerful cognitions from this session are: Being focused is a side effect of dynamic consciousness, and that the constant irritation in our life from the time we wake up until the time that we go to bed is the gift of agamya(the life we see that others have carved for themselves), and for this reason it is better to focus on our prarabdha(the surroundings and path which we choose for ourselves)

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Transcript:

[00:00:15]

I'll try to explain with few words what is exactly this Karma - the word which I introduced. See, all the possibilities available in the cosmos, we call this agamya, we call that as agamya. All possibilities. You can become a fish, you can become a snake, you can become a man, you can become a God, you can become a… whatever. All possibilities. We call that as, agamya. And, we call that as… maybe you can you can use the word, a much deeper word, the all possibilities, which is available to you, not only in front of your awareness, not only about which you are aware… now the words which I uttered - like a, fish or monkey or a donkey or a man - all there things are known to you. But there are many possibilities which are, completely unknown to you. That we call sanchita, the whole thing. The whole is sanchita, and the possibilities in front of you is agamya. And you decided to play only with certain boundaries in this body - that is what we call prarabdha.

See when you came down, you decided to play with… in certain boundary. In that boundary you decided to play. Maybe that boundary is what we can call prarabdha. And after coming here, you see so many possibilities in front of you, you try to accumulate, you try to acquire. Maybe that possibilities we can call as agamya.

[00:02:01]

And, this prarabdha itself has an intelligence to run your life. One big difficulty is you see too many agamya, means too many possibilities in front of you. Because of that, your trust over prarabdha is reduced; you think the prarabdha may not be that powerful to run your life, because of the agamya which is… possibilities which is in front of your eyes. But I tell you, trusting that prarabdha is powerful and realising, will take away one important thing from your life, the continuous irritation. You see the constant irritation which you are carrying, from morning till night is the gift of agamya, is the gift of agamya. From morning till night, you can see in your life the moment you come out of your bed, until the moment you fall asleep, the constant irritation. We don’t need somebody to do any mistake to jump on them, we are just waiting. 😃 We are just waiting. Anybody who comes in our presence will have our blessing. 😃

[00:03:13]

That constant irritation is because we are centred on agamya. Our energy, our inner space, if it is centred on prarabdha, it is not that we will not be working or relating with the possibilities. It’s not that we will stop working. No. We will continue to work, but our base will be on prarabdha. We will not be carrying the constant irritation which we carry now. You see, the constantly rejecting everything, constantly being irritated, this is the, this mood happens, because of our agamya, because of our possibilities.

[00:03:55]

When a, in the ashram, whenever ashramites do some mistake, first thing I tell them is, let him have freedom, that is the best punishment. Understand. Without intelligence, the freedom, the dilemma itself will kill him. So we are all continuously working for freedom, the choices, the possibilities - means, agamya. But we forget, the prarabdha, is very intelligent, very powerful.

[00:04:25]

In the whole world there are only 2 kinds of people. The people whose inner space is centred on agamya, people whose inner space is centred on prarabdha. That is all. People whose inner space is centred on prarabdha, continuously live the life, express the life of peaceful, or I can say, the restful awareness. I can use all kinds of words, maybe you can say that… in Sanskrit we have the word ‘Nivritti’. Means, getting centred, more and more centred. And, people who are living based on the agamya, they live the life of (Sanskrit word) Pravritti - continuously trying to acquire more and more karmas.

[00:05:10]

Two thing. Always we have an idea, person who is centred on prarabdha may not be able to perform his duties, day to day routine, or may not be able to live the life, the regular life with a profession or relationships and regular life. That is not the truth. That is not the truth. I, again I wanted to repeat that same word. Being focused is, side-effect of dynamic consciousness. The Dynamic Consciousness will never bring laziness or dullness into you. It will be such an intense excitement. It is such an intense joy, it is such an, uh, intense expression of your being, continuously for no reason, you are inspired.

[00:06:06]

See now, the clutched mind, the mind which is based on agamya, will be inspired only by fear or greed. Early morning you can see you will be, you will come out of your dream state only if you have a strong desire. You can see in your life. Settling into the physical body and running the physical body out of fear or greed, is what I call - living the life based on agamya. Settling into the body and running your day to day life based on inspiration - is what I call living enlightenment. It is possible. First I wanted to propose ‘it is possible’. Let us analyse this one idea ‘it is possible’. Then I’ll try to present few ideas, ‘how to’. Maybe then, we’ll be able to experiment with this idea, ‘how to. Now let us analyse this possibility.

[00:07:00]

Participant: …Inaudible… by your prarabdha, what happens then?

SPH: See, then no problem you see. Oh you are saying living your life by agamya will be your prarabdha. No.

Participant: Maybe driven by prarabdha

SPH: See. One thing, how to find out whether I am living based on prarabdha or agamya… You will not carry that constant irritation. If you are carrying that constant irritation, be very clear it is agamya based life. That is the scale. Every moment, your interaction with the life, you see, Isavasyam Idam Sarvam - Whatever exists, is life energy. Whatever exists, is intense auspiciousness. So your every breathing, your every moment, if it adds sachidananda to you, you are living based on prarabdha. Your every breathing, your every movement, has to add more and more auspicious feeling in your being. If it adds more and more excitement, more and more auspiciousness, more and more joy, in your being, you are living based on prarabdha. If it brings some irritation, some feeling of, what to say that, put in the prison or suffocation, if these feelings are added, brought to your being, then surely you are living on agamya.

[00:08:25]

Participant: That may be given by prarabdha. That's my question.

SPH: No. It is purely your choice. It’s purely.

Participant: Inaudible

SPH: Whom, you see. You see. The moment, as long as you feel that you exist… do you feel you exist? Then you have the choice. If you feel you don’t. At one moment, you will not even have the feeling that you exist. That time you don’t have choice. Till you feel that you exist you have a choice. Do you have the feeling or the idea that you exist?

Participant: Sometimes yes sometimes no.

SPH: Whenever you have that feeling that you exist, you have a choice. Whenever you don’t have the feeling, you do not have that awareness you exist, you don’t have the choice.

[00:09:14]

Trying to increase the zone that ‘you exist’, and live without being irritated, I can say without carrying that constant irritation, is the whole purpose of the spiritual life. You see, when you don’t have that awareness that you exist - in the deep sleep, you will not have that irritation. Not having that awareness that ‘you exist’ is not goal. The goal or the ultimate truth we need to experience is, having the clarity that I exist but the irritation will not be there. The responsibility, to take decisions, to take choices, will be there, suffering of dilemma will not be there.

The essence, let Me try to give the essence of the question which you are asking. The conditioning, before conditioning the blissful self, then conditioning takes over the self, how to again unclutch.

[00:10:23]

A small example. When the human beings started walking with 2 legs, the first monkey which started walking in 2 legs, that is a big breakthrough. You understand? It’s a big breakthrough that all the monkeys are walking only in the 4 leg, suddenly 1 monkey started walking in 2 legs. And that monkey was successful in walking and it calls all the other monkeys and tells, “We can walk in 2 legs. And this is an important thing. You should all do. 2 legs will be free.”

Naturally, all those monkeys would have laughed at that monkey, which was trying to teach, which was trying to tell something new. That whole incident would have been too small, but now we understand that is the greatest breakthrough.

[00:11:14]

Actually when monkeys have started walking in the 2 legs, that’s where the whole civilisation is developed. Even our brain, brain is developed only because we started walking in 2 legs. Very small thing, which was very small thing, has led to a great revolution or evolution. Same way, please understand, understand that situation. That is the same situation now. I am trying to propose a simple thing. Just like how that monkey proposed, ‘we can walk in 2 legs’, I am proposing an important thing, ‘We can live without mind’. Very shocking, little disturbing, and naturally, all kinds of questions that monkey faced, I have to face. All kinds of difficulties that monkey faced I have to face. And not only that, naturally when that first monkey took the class for other monkeys that you can walk, 😃 Sorry. I am not comparing. I am just… ‘See, you can walk in 2 legs’, naturally this monkeys would have gone to their places and tried for 2 days and failed. And after few days again they would have tried. And the whole game, just visualise, the same game, same game.

[00:12:30]

See, even whether you fail in few days, now you say that, “No, no, no, many times I tried it never works out.” Surely that monkey also would have received that complaint. “No, no, I tried; with the stick I tried, holding the walls I tried, holding the trees I tried. It did not work out.” See this is the usual difficulty, but I tell you, the possibility is there. First thing.

Second thing you asked, “How to? Then please give me the fool proof technique, method, straight method, which I don’t need to practice for so many days.” See now I am confi, now I can tell you, with clarity and confidence. As I told you , “I was also a seeker, and I tried, experimented, with enough of techniques. Now I can give you some method or a technique straightaway you can use. Not… you asked Me, from the day it should work. I can say from this moment it will work. From this moment, it will start working.

[00:13:33]

Let Me finish this question. I’ll try to explain a simple technique, this unclutching. Unclutching is the technique I am trying to teach. Before entering into the technique I wanted to clear the intellectual questions. See, mainly I want all of you to understand the possibility. Once the possibility is understood immediately we can enter into the technique how to. If the possibility itself is not understood, if you are not clear that it is possible, then, even when you enter into the technique. You will be continuously entering into the, I can say, that negative mood. You will never be able to experiment the technique. You will never approach the technique with sympathy, “Oh maybe it is possible.” So I am just trying to spend few minutes, so that the possibility is understood. Then, we can enter into the technique. It is possible.

[00:14:28]

See the whole spirituality is nothing but again and again saying that ‘it is possible’, in different words, in different methods, in different techniques. You said… you made one statement that ‘I tried many techniques’. It’s not that those techniques does not work; for different beings, different people, different techniques work. Different techniques work for different persons, different beings and that’s why when people ask Me… it’s not the techniques you tried are useless, it’s not the techniques you tried are useless, or they have no use. They do have. Surely they would have helped for some people, some beings.

When people ask Me that, “Can we try some other master’s techniques or can we go to some other class or some other programmes?” I tell them, “Sure. Pluck flowers from all gardens, and make a beautiful bouquet for you.” Sometime, some techniques directly helps. Sometime, some techniques may not help. But I can be sure of one thing, this technique will surely help you, because you have seen many other things. This can help you.

[00:15:37]

[Swamiji drawing a diagram on the white board to explain unclutching] Different shape, different size, different colours, different quality, different experiences. Some are related to joy, some are related to suffering, some are related to depression, some are related to excitement. Different kinds of thoughts. Please understand. Continuously, different shape, different way thoughts are flowing.

One important thing you need to understand. All the thoughts which are flowing are completely illogical, irresponsible and independent. Please understand. Some of the truths will be very strong words. Some of these words will be very strong. These thoughts are not responsible to each other. They don’t have a logical connection. They are completely independent. Independent and illogical, they are not connected.

[00:16:38]

For example, if I have to give one example. You see a dog in the street. Immediately you remember some dogs which you had as a pet, or about of which you used to be frightened at a young age. Then, the memory of your young age. Then, the teacher under whom you studied in your young age. Even when I say now I give a simple logic base. But if you see your thoughts, it will not even have this much of logic. See, the dog which you saw on the street, and the teacher under whom you studied in the young age, have no logical connection. Suddenly, from which logic your thoughts moved to which logic, you have no idea.

[00:17:23]

If you want to experiment just now you can try. Take a paper and pen and write whatever goes on inside without editing, for 2 minutes; just 2 minutes without editing, like a dragon software. In the modern day there’s software the medical professionals use, for transcription. Whatever they talk will be transcribed. Just like that, if the software is connected to your mind, how it will completely transcribe. Same way, whatever goes on inside, try to transcribe, you will understand, the thoughts which is flowing inside you are completely illogical, independent and irresponsible.

[00:18:08]

Then, what connects, what connects and gives you the kind of a feeling that it is continuous and logical. For example, if you believe your life is suffering, you will connect all the suffering and depressing thoughts, and create the idea of pain shaft - your whole life is a pain. I have seen, when you ask people, ‘how is your life?’ First thing they will tell you, “Oh nobody has suffered like me. Even my enemy should not suffer like me.” Means, they connect, they catch all the incidents, which created pain in their life and create a pain shaft. They believe their whole life is nothing but a pain shaft. Very rarely, when you are in a high mood, exciting mood, or when you are really in love with somebody or some object or with the life, you feel your whole life is a joy. At those moments you connect, joyful moments, the exciting thoughts, and create, joy shaft ‘ Life is a joy’. The idea that life is a joy. Sometime you create the idea ‘life is a pain’.

[00:19:33]

See, what you believe… If you believe ‘life is a pain’ you will create an idea of pain shaft. If you believe life is a joy, you will create an idea ‘life is a joy’ shaft. The depression which happened in you, in us, 10 years ago, the depression we experienced 8 years ago, the depression we experienced 4 years ago, the depression we experienced yesterday, are independent incidents; our responses to independent incidents in our life, independent experiences. But when we connect all of them and see them together, you say “my whole life is depression.”

[00:20:16]

This pain shaft or joy shaft, this is created out of your belief. If you see the exact thoughts moving as it is, inside your inner space, they are neither right nor wrong. They are… ‘it is’ that's all. It is an existence, reality. It’s just flowing. But when you create some idea, when you want to restrict, when you want to frame them, for future reference, you frame them either as pain shaft or joy shaft. The difficulty is not… you don’t stop here. The moment you identify your life as a pain shaft, you try to break it. If you identify your life as a joy shaft, you try to elongate it. Neither you can elongate nor you can break, that is the problem; because the shaft does not exist in reality. It does not exist in reality. It’s just imaginary, it is just your feeling. If it exists, you can break it. It does not exist. You try to break which is not there; you are trying to continuously fight with something which is not there - either joy shaft or with the pain shaft. Again and again, we try to break the pain shaft. Trying to break the pain shaft brings one more pain.

[00:21:42]

I have seen people, after reading the books like, ‘Stop Worrying, Start Living.’ No, it’s very easy to become a philosopher. Talk which is completely impractical. I can give you some 4-5 tips how to become a philosopher! Talk completely impractical thing. Talk, which you were not able to practice. You see, when you are not able to practice, others also can’t practice. So naturally you will be dangling the carrot. It will continue, that business will go on and on and on. So, anyhow. These kind of philosophers, when you, when you read these kind of books, and try to stop worrying, that will become one more worry.

[00:22:20]

I have seen, people create one more worry, trying to stop worrying. I feel that the worrying is a problem only when you start thinking that you have worry, you are worrying. Only when you identify it as a pain shaft, any pain is a pain. When it is just a reality, when it is an existence, when it is just flowing in your being, it has no… it doesn’t… it never creates suffering in you.

[00:22:48]

Somebody asked Ramana Maharishi. Ramana Maharishi is a great enlightened master. He was from My native place. My native place boasts a, unbroken lineage of enlightened masters for last 2000 years. Somebody… he had a cancer, the last moments of his life and somebody asked him, “Bhagawan do you have pain?” He says, “pain is there but there is no suffering.” Understand, the pain is translated into suffering, only when you create a pain shaft, not otherwise.

[00:23:21]

When you… you can experiment now in your life, if you have any pain - back pain or headache, just look that space without giving the idea or the name pain, suddenly you will see that experience which you are having as pain will disappear. You can experiment now, straightaway. Continuously our life, we are creating either pain shaft or joy shaft. Words are flowing, thoughts are flowing in our inner space; creating joy shaft or creating pain shaft is what I call fighting with maya.

[00:24:03]

In Sanskrit we have a beautiful word. Maya means, which is not there, but which gives the suffering as if it is there. Even if he is not there, if he gives the suffering as if he is there, is called maya. It is called maya. It is not there, but it gives the suffering or the impression as if it is there. Continuously giving meaning, to the thoughts which is arising in your being, is the root cause of suffering. Let Me give you a simple technique of unclutching.

[00:24:41]

Please understand this simple technique of unclutching, what I mean by the word unclutching. When you sit, naturally there will be some thoughts. When the thoughts come, usually your mind will tend to connect it, identify it, with some past pain or joy, or it will classify it as something related to worry or there is nothing… simple thought flowing. It will try to connect or classify; it will try to clutch with some of your past experience and identify. Now, just for few moments, try this simple experiment: Any thought comes, do not clutch it with your past experience. Do not clutch it with your past suffering or joy. When, when words come out of your being, instead of giving meaning to it, just see the source of the sound. See sounds are raising your inner space. The moment you give meaning, you become materialistic. If you look the source, you go towards the freedom.

[00:25:55]

Just see for few moments, just try for few moments, anything rises in you try to unclutch without clutching and connecting and creating a shaft. You may say, “no no no, it is very difficult.” This is also one more thought. The difficulty which you experienced 10 years ago, the difficulty which you experienced 9 years ago, the difficulty which you experienced yesterday are independent difficulties. Why should you connect all those difficulties and create an idea, this is difficult. So simply, this moment.

[00:26:34]

There is a beautiful story by Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Some 2 lakh people, 2 lakh warriors came to kill a king in the fort… there is a huge fort. King was completely frightened. “Oh 2 lakh people, I am all alone.” He is just staying with 2, 3 people. “They will kill me.” Then the Raja guru, the master, he says, “Open one door, only one door. Through one door surely only one person at a time can come. So stand this side and kill one by one. Over.” Do not try to fight with the whole crowd.

With your life also, do not try to fight with the whole agamya and prarabdha. You are fortunate that God has provided only one door. You can have, fortunately, whether you want or not, like it or not, you can have only one thought at a time, am I right? Can you have 2 thoughts at a time? You can’t. Maybe the gap is too small, so you can think you can have 2 thoughts. You can’t. Whether you want or not, you can have only one thought at a time. Next thought has to be next thought, not other way. So only one thought can come out of your inner space at a time. So kill one by one. Over.

[00:28:00]

Title:

Live A Pain-Free Life, Unclutch Discourse Part 3

Description:

In this session, SPH gives a beautiful technique for us to reduce our pain and suffering in this video. By using the technique of unclutching, SPH says that simple remembrance can clean all of the pain and suffering away. “When you are feeling depressed, just go for a cup of coffee”. SPH reveals the truth only one thought can enter into the mind at any given time. This means that if one thought can replace another, then it is more powerful than what it replaced. In the same way, when you have a thought of feeling depressed, you can go for a cup of coffee, or water, and use this to make the thought of depression exit your inner space. If it tries to come back, you can simply repeat this process. SPH says that a simple remembrance of unclutching will start the fire which will cause complete cessation of the mind, and all of the incompletions, depression, suffering, etc, that come with it. With this one understanding of how the mind works, Swamiji reveals to us a sacred secret of how unclutching can be used to reduce all pain in your life.

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(0:22)

Q: The connection between thoughts and past experiences, how do the thoughts come?

(0:25)

SPH: You see, two thing. That is the...I can say that is the question still not only nobody can answer, nobody has answered. Not only nobody has answered, nobody can answer. You are asking like a …’how did I fall into the dream?’ If I ask, “How did you fall into the dream yesterday night,” can you answer? You see, you know the possibility that you came out of the dream. You are able to come out of the dream, na? Then there is a possibility, but you can’t analyse or understand how did you get into the dream. See, same way, you can come out of this dream but you can’t analyse and find out how did I get into this dream because the logic which you have now is not capable of understanding. It is not bright enough to understand how did you get into this situation.

(1:19)

Q: With the past experience of what you are projecting for the future, will it not lead to thoughtlessness?

(01:27)

SPH: I can tell you one thing.

(01:30)

Q: Because active mind will become silent and it will lead to thoughtlessness…(not clear)

(01:41)

SPH: Two thing: First thing, the moment you think about the thoughtlessness or silence, you think that you will be in that same state and your body and your life will not run. Am I right? I want to tell you that it will lead you to thoughtlessness, then you start imagining that.

(01:57)

Q: I think automatically it will lead.

(01:59)

SPH: Automatically it will lead but I can say it will lead to a silence, it will lead to a kind of peace in the initial level, but I don’t say that is ultimate. Then something breaks in you, something happens in you the regular thought or what you call as a thought or mind, everything is happening, your body moves, your day-to-day life happens but you never come back as your old personality. Maybe I can use the word Sahaja samadhi. You never come back as the old personality. You just live. See, maybe I can use this word- psychological revolution happens in you, the cognition, how you receive information, process it and give the answers, that whole process becomes different.

(02:57)

Q: (not clear)

(02:58)

Swamiji: I don’t want to say that you will become thoughtless completely. You understand, the moment I say the word you will become thoughtless, you start thinking that I will become completely silent and I will not be able to do anything. My body will not move, my mind will not move. No! That does not happen.

(03:14)

Q: Swamiji, because we are unaware. That’s why our thoughts keep on connecting it with the past experiences. My question to You is, how to become aware? You are saying you disconnect your thought. I think automatically it keeps on happening.

(03:33)

SPH: That is what I am saying. In the initial level, you may have to sit in the beginning for sometime and continuously unclutch. Then it will bring you a kind of silence. You will settle down. Then after that, continuously whole day, when you walk, sit or stand or do anything, even remembering that idea unclutching... see the idea unclutching-this is what I call initiation. The idea is like a stick used to burn the dead bodies. In India, if you see burning of the dead bodies, after burning, they will throw that stick also to that fire. Same way this idea of unclutching will burn all other clutches and difficulties. Finally this idea also be put in the same fire.

(04:19)

Q: (not clear)

(04:37)

SPH: See, in the beginning, I was not saying it is bad or anything. I was saying we have something more to offer.

(04:45)

Q: But japa can also be one of the technique to disconnect.

(04:47)

SPH: Yes, surely, surely. It can also lead in the initial level. You see, there are different layers in our being. Physical body which you are carrying. Yoga will help for physical body. The second: the pranic layer. The prana happening inside you. Pranayama will help to work on that layer. The third: Mental layer, inner chattering you are having. The japa, repetition of some word or idea, the mantra can help you that layer. The fourth: emotions. Some visualisation can help that layer. We call it subtle layer-sukshma sharira. Then the deeper layers like anandamaya kosha or the deep sleep-karana sharira. Those layers can be helped by this method of unclutching. So different techniques for different layer helps. Different techniques can penetrate, can help you at the different level, different layer.

(05:45)

What I am trying to say about this unclutching, when you try to experiment this unclutching, a very simple thing, a very simple thing. All you need to do, all you need to do, remember that unclutching. Instead of giving meaning, connecting with the old thoughts and allowing that, you see, when you create a thought, you are a Brahma. When you maintain a thought, you are a Vishnu. When you destroy a thought, you are Shiva. If you don’t do all these three, you are Parabrahma. Unclutching is the method will...it is like a self-purifying. As long as you are in the mental layer, now we are talking in the mental layer. This will be like a technique, like a mental layer. The moment you become subtle, actually if you try, when you experiment with this technique, suddenly you will see, you don’t even have to repeat the word ‘unclutching’. That very idea repeats. It becomes subtle.

(06:45)

See, any technique which can purify itself the moment when you become subtle, the technique also should become subtle by itself. Then it’s a liberating technique. The technique which does not become subtle by itself, which stays as a gross at one point if it is not able to dilute itself, if it is not able to disappear, if it is not able to kill itself, if the technique is not able to commit suicide, it will kill you. Yes, maybe, maybe but I can say, when you emphasise on the initial technique, in the initial thing, then there is a ...that is where the problem starts. So let the emphasis be on this corner, this side of the shore, this side of the shore. Let the technique commit suicide. When you grow, when you become more subtle, let the technique commit suicide and let you become more and more subtle. Let the emphasis be on this side.

(07:43)

I can say the difference between, difference between the normal mind and living Enlightenment. See the normal mind you know. It functions, it works, all of us know and in between there is a space called silence. When you become thoughtless and actionless ‘yogaha chitta vritti nirodhaha’. When there is no thought and no action, complete ‘chitta vritti’ happens. The ‘chitta vritti nirodha’ happens. Cessation of the mind, that happens. The next thing happens is, I can give you this example. As on now, if you have ten acre land, the ten acre land is our mind. Everything is continuously moving, jumping, restless. But when you live Enlightenment, when you come to that ultimate truth, it is not that activity in the ten acre stops, suddenly you have ten million acre. In the ten million acre, the activity in the ten acre is negligible.

(08:48)

First state is ten acre land and all ten acre is restless. Second state, all the ten acre is in silence. Third state, what I call Sahaja samadhi or living Enlightenment, you have ten million acre. The ten acre restlessness is there. The activity is there but you are never touched by it. You are never disturbed by it. The day-to-day life is happening. Everyday life is running. Everyday your life is moving. See, the creation, maintenance and the decision making in your life is continuously happening but the constant irritation which you carry now is missing. That will be missing. That is what I call living Enlightenment.

(09:36)

This unclutching, in the initial level you may need to remember as word. Then slowly it will become like a concept. Then it will not even be a concept, it will be just a remembrance. It will become juice of your very being. Every moment, whether you understand or not, want it or not, you are unclutching. Unless you unclutch from the earlier thought, can the next thought come in? No! See for example, the moment you decide to stand up, you renounce the thought of sitting. The moment you decide to come in, you renounce the thought of standing outside. The moment you decided to walk out, you renounce the thought of sitting inside. Am I right? Only when the earlier thought is renounced, the next thought can come inside your inner space.

(10:23)

People ask Me, “Swamiji, I am suffering with fear of death. What should I do?” I tell them, “Have a cup of coffee.” No, it may look very funny. ‘How can I have a cup of coffee and come out of the death fear?’ Understand, the moment you are able to have a thought that ‘let me have a cup of coffee,’ whatever fear it may be, it has to leave your inner space. Am I right? Unless that leaves your inner space, you cannot have the thought, ‘Let me have a cup of coffee.’ You may say, “No, no but the fear comes back.” Then have one more cup of coffee, that’s all! See if you know once how to get the fear out, apply the same thing second time. You may ask, “How many cup of coffee I can have?” Then next time have a cup of water, that’s all!

(11:15)

See, looks very simple and just because it looks very simple, we are not able to trust it. Let Me go little more deeper into this truth. Let Me dive little deep into this truth. Continuously whether you want or not, you can have only one thought. You can have continuously, no doubt but only one thought at a time. Let Me make these few statements. If I am wrong, please correct Me. If I am right, please internalise it. First thing, you can have only one thought at a time. Second thing, unless the old thought is moved out, pushed out, the second thought cannot come. Third thing, if somebody can push Me out and sit here, he is surely powerful than Me. If somebody can push Me from here and sit here, he is surely more powerful than Me means any thought which is coming and pushing the old thought out, is more powerful means see, any thought which is coming now is rooted in the present moment and naturally the old thought is dead.

(12:30)

You may be having worst fear of death or worst greed or lust, whatever it is, the moment new thought has come, it is dead. The old thought is dead. It has no power over your inner space. It has to leave you. See, a cup of coffee can replace your worst fear of death. It happens in you. When it happens in your inner space, just see and understand. You may say, “No, no, no. It comes back. It cannot be that simple, Swami. No, no, no. We live, we know.” It is not that you live, I also live. Please understand, I am responsible for what I am talking. I have seen what I am talking. That’s the reason I am talking to you.

(13:16)

When a thought can come inside and replace the earlier thought, it means naturally this thought is more powerful. The problem, the only difficulty we have is, you start thinking, ‘No, no. It may come back. It will come back.’ You see, once you know how to replace it, why are you afraid of it coming back? Why should we constantly concentrate on it coming back? Somebody came and asked Me the other day. A young guy, “Swamiji, I am filled with sexual fantasies. Please give me some solution.” I told him, “Just sit half an hour and meditate on those fantasies.” He came back and said, “No Swamiji, I am not able to concentrate on it.” Understand, your very nature of the mind, your very nature, constantly you are replaced.

(14:09)

In mythology, we say, ‘Shiva is a destroyer’. He is not destroyer. He creates a new space. He creates a new space for many other things to happen. He is a rejuvenator, not destroyer. He creates a new space for many other things to happen. Understand, you are filled with Shiva energy, Shiva Consciousness. In Sanskrit, the word ‘Shiva’ means Auspiciousness, Causeless Auspiciousness. Your inner space is filled with auspiciousness. That is why, constantly the new inner space is created so that old thoughts can be replaced. The continuous flow of thoughts proves you are continuously unclutching. All you need to do is remember it.

(15:05)

See now, you remember the pain shaft or joy shaft. Am I right? All your thoughts, you give meaning or you process. You live based on pain shaft or joy shaft. You see, your movements are happening either based on the idea of pain shaft or joy shaft. Let your movements happen by the remembrance of unclutching. That’s all I am saying. Instead of acting based on the remembrance of joy shaft or pain shaft, act based on the remembrance of unclutching. That’s all is the essence. See, people ask Me, “No, no. If I am constantly remembering unclutching, how can I act?” If you are constantly suffering with pain, you are acting. Are you not acting? See, even while you carry the remembrance of pain and suffering, you are acting. When you can act with the remembrance of pain, why not remembrance of unclutching?

(16:13)

For a simple example, morning 8 o’clock you sit in your car and start driving towards your office. 9 o’clock you reach your office. Suddenly you remember, only after reaching the office, ‘last one hour I was driving.’ How many of you experienced at least once this in your life? At least once? You would have experienced. See, then one hour you took so many decisions. Pressing the accelerator, changing the gear, stopping for red light, so many decisions but you are not aware. When you can drive with unconsciousness, why not drive with Superconsciousness? You can! Your day-to-day life is possible with the remembrance of unclutching, with the undercurrent of unclutching. That is what I call Living Enlightenment.

(17:05)

One thing, this is the only thing you need: simple courage to experiment in the beginning. Simple courage to experiment in the beginning. The undercurrent you see, if you have a deep depression, do you stop going to the office? No! You may carry that, but your body moves. You are working. Maybe you may not be productive that much or you may not be efficient that much, that is different but your body is living. You are.... actually instead of living depression, I am saying, live Enlightenment but when we live depression, we don’t have all these questions. ‘No, no, no. If I am depressed, how can my body move?’ We don’t have questions. It become part of our life.

(17:55)

Same way, in the initial level, you will have questions, ‘How to live Enlightenment?’ But the constant remembrance of unclutching will not interfere in your mind or body movements. It will interfere only in one thing. It will do only one change in you. You will not carry your constant irritation. That’s all! That constant irritation is the product of the fight between the ahankara and mamakara-the identity which you show to the outer world and to the inner world. That fight if it stops, you are Living Enlightenment. See, when I express, I express with the simple word, that irritation but that irritation is the source of all pains and suffering. That irritation is the source of the whole maya, the whole illusion, whatever you call.

(18:48)

So in the initial level, remembering that word unclutching, slowly, you don’t even have to wait for years. Within few times when you try, you will suddenly see...See, if your enemy, if your enemy means if your mind is in the mental plane means with the words, very powerful, then unclutching also will be like a word. If your mind is in the emotional level, just some subtle memories are flowing, then unclutching also can be just a simple remembrance. If your mind is just neither words nor visualisation, just some, something is flowing which you don’t understand, very rarely you will experience that space. At that moment, you don’t even have to remember unclutching. Just your very presence, you will see you are unclutched.

(19:45)

If your enemy, your enemy is mind. Based on the strength of the enemy, the technique also will change itself. That’s what I call the Mahavakya. Mahavakya means the ultimate truth. The ultimate initiation will be such, it will change its position, its strategy, its space and its strength based on the enemy’s strength. All you need to do is add this simple truth-unclutching and when you work with this technique you will see, by your very nature you are unclutched. That is why you are able to have new thoughts. That is why you are able to have new thoughts.

(20:28)

See, any depression can be replaced just by one thought, ‘Let me have a cup of water. Let me have a cup of tea.’ Over! Trash your emails. You again go back to the trash and bring them back. That is where the problem starts, that is where the problem starts and you have a very strong belief, ‘No, no, no, whatever is said and done, even if I have thrown it, it will come back, it will come back.’ See, once you know how to throw that, even if it comes back, it's okay, why are you afraid? Let us throw again. Let us throw again. Give more power to the gap. Empower the gap instead of the thought. Empower the ability to unclutch. Cherish the ability to unclutch. Live the ability to unclutch than living the thoughts. There is only two kinds of life: living thoughts, Enlightenment. Simple choice.

(21:34)

Title:

Consciousness Is Always Expanding Q and A Session, Unclutch Discourse Part 4

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In this video Swamiji explains consciousness and its role in unclutching®. Swamiji explains that the ultimate is not final, which means that although unclutching® is the ultimate solution, it is a continuous practice. From the space of unclutching® we can be constantly expanding and embodying the space of living enlightenment, being unclutched®.

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Devotee: Scientists say that about fourteen billion years ago, the Universe started with the Big Bang. Then galaxies, stars, then solar system. About five billion years ago, earth came into existence. After that, various life forms gradually evolved. First may be plants. Then simple animals, complex animals, chimpanzee and then man. So with this processive evolution, how do You relate Consciousness? Has Consciousness also been evolving along with the physical form? And if yes, then what exactly is the process of transformation of this consciousness from lower level to higher level? Is this Enlightenment just the next step of the same process of evolution?

(01:04)

SPH: Two thing: One, Consciousness is not evolving. Second thing, when the system which radiates Consciousness is evolving, the expression becomes much better. Please understand. This glass may not reflect the sun but the mirror will reflect the sun. In mirror, you will see better expression of sun. That does not mean sun is changing. Consciousness is like a sun. That itself does not change but the mirror, the glass can become mirror. The glass becoming mirror is what you call evolution. That is what is happening. That is what is happening. You see, in the glass you won’t see a better reflection of the sun but in the mirror you will see. It is not because of sun. It is because of the mirror changing.

(02:00)

Same way, your body is changing. The idea from which the Consciousness is getting expressed, whether your body or mind, that is evolving. That is why, you see better and better expressions. I can say, after the human being or the... after the human mind happened, the ultimate evolution is Enlightenment. Ultimate expression of the sun is Enlightenment. The ultimate expression of that Consciousness is Enlightenment. The possibility for that ultimate expression is there for the human mind and body. Human brain is wired for Enlightenment. Human brain is wired to experience God. So if you experience that, you achieved the peak, the ultimate. which you can experience.

(02:57)

One more thing I want to tell you. Enlightenment is ultimate but not final. The ultimate is happening every moment. If ultimate happens and ends, that’s what we call final. Here, it is ultimate but not final. Ultimate happens but does not stop. It is happening. Ultimate continuously happening is what we call Enlightenment. A little difficult to grasp by the intellect. Maybe you can understand with this example. Continuously Big Bang happening. A continuously Big bang happening is what I call Enlightenment!

(04:41)

When you live Enlightenment, this moment, you will unclutch. Next moment, you will unclutch from the idea you are unclutching. The next moment you will unclutch from the idea that you are unclutching from the idea of unclutching means continuously, you see, unclutching is the ultimate. You unclutching this moment is ultimate but that does not mean it is the final. You will be continuously unclutching. Continuously you will be alive. Continuously you will be fresh. Continuously you will be experiencing new, new, new inner space, but which is ultimate.

(04:22)

You see, if I say continuously you will experience, you will start thinking as if it is growing. No, it’s not growing. What you can experience maximum, you will have it this moment and that will be continuously happening. You always have an idea of graph. Either if it goes to peak, it has to come to valley, or if it is growing, growing, growing, it is not peak. Am I right? That graph cannot grasp Enlightenment. That graph is only for the outer world. It is wrong. Peak, the ultimate, continuously happening. You can’t even call it as a straight line.

(05:06)

(answering a devotee’s question) No, it is not fixed. That’s what I am saying.

(05:06)

Devotee: No, like You are saying this mind-body is expression that Consciousness and once we are able to reflect it completely in a perfect manner, then that becomes Enlightenment.

(05:15)

SPH: Yes

(05:17)

Devotee: This means Consciousness itself has no role in this process of evolution or whatever You may call it,...

(05:22)

SPH: No, I don’t say ‘no role.’ I don’t say no role. See, Consciousness is the base. I don’t say no role. I can say it does not have active role.

(05:37)

Devotee: Okay, this mind-body is functioning on its own, totally? It is like machine which is working on its own?

(05:42)

SPH: Two thing: as long as you identify yourself with the body and mind, you will see it has no role. Consciousness has no role and your experiences also will be like that only. It will not have any role. When you relax and become little subtle, suddenly you will start thinking it has a role-passive role and you will see it has a passive role. If you settle down completely you will understand, Consciousness is the only thing playing all roles! You will believe it and that will be the truth. See, the truth, at least let Me tell you from My experience. I cannot say the ultimate truth is truth for you.

(06:30)

Ramakrishna says the whole world is illusion. Vivekananda goes and hits his head on the wall and says, “No, I am having pain. There is a bleeding. How can you say it is illusion?” But Ramakrishna says when He puts His hand, His hand is just moving through the wall. It is a very funny incident. Any of you read his life? If you read the Ramskrishna’s life, you will see this and not only that, when He plays with that murthi, that Kali’s murthi, she is responding. but Vivekananda is playing. She is not responding. It is like a depth of experience.

(07:04)

Please understand, in the dream state, the dream is completely true for you. In the waking state, this waking state is completely true for you. When you are awakened, there is a state. That will be true for you. From that state only, I can say, Consciousness only plays all roles. So all I can say, please come to My shore and see what I am saying. From your shore, from that side, what you are saying “Does Consciousness play any role?”, I only have to say, “No, may not be. It is playing passive role.” I will have to only use the other words but to tell you the ultimate truth, the exact truth, Consciousness is the only thing playing all roles, all the roles.

(07:50)

When the mirror is becoming more and more powerful, capable of reflecting, it starts seeing the truth. It is like a glass and next mirror reflecting. The third, not only reflecting, starts seeing the Source based on the reflection. There are some mirrors, intelligent mirrors. Not only it reflects the sun, it starts seeing the Source, from where this light ray is coming, where is the Source. So different level. Maybe in the level from which you are questioning, where the question is rising, from that level I can say, Consciousness is playing passive role but that is not ultimate truth. Maybe it is a fact but not truth.

(08:35)

Trying to use the truth in the day-to-day life without experiencing it creates rituals. By faking it, you can never make it. That is the important truth. See, sometime, people say that, ‘fake it and make it.’ No, it does not happen. At least in the inner space. Inner space, only if you make it, it can work. Only by experience it can happen. In the outer world, by faking, you can make. You see, if it is related to ahankar or mamakar, you can fake it and make it but if it is related to truth, by faking it, you can’t make it.

(09:18)

Devotee: Energy based healing sciences, would You please throw some light on it. We would like to know more about it.

(09:24)

Swamiji: When you completely unclutch, you radiate so much of awareness and energy and intelligence, Ma! See, the energy cannot be produced or it is not like something you create. It is continuously happening in every being. If you take a stand that you are a body, you will be on matter. You will be in a matter plane, plane of a physical matter and you will be living like that only. Your desires will be very physical, gross. If you think you are mind, you will live in the mental plane. Your desires, fears, everything will be related to mind like name and fame desire, fear of losing the identity-these kind of desires. If you are based on the physical plane, your desires and fears, everything will be related to that level like, you will have the fears of basic, like death fear or the desires also will be related to body.

(10:21)

In the mental layer, the desires and fear-both will be subtle. In the spiritual level, being level, there won’t be any desire or fear. You will be radiating the energy continuously. In which plane you are, your existence, your presence will radiate that energy. So when somebody is established in the spiritual plane deeply, the spiritual zone, there won’t be any need for any sankalpa to do healing. Many people ask Me, “Swamji, how do You do healing? Do You use any mantra, do You use any technique?” I tell them, “No. All I do is just relax.” Just simple relaxation, unclutching: simple unclutching and relaxing.

(11:05)

Of course, because the Enlightenment has happened, there is no need for Me to do consciously unclutching. Just the very being, it is happening. Just the simple unclutching-that radiates the energy. That’s all! People feel the side effect of this energy as a physical healing or mental healing or any other benefits. But the core truth is what I spoke to you. The same thing. Unclutching is the same thing. There is no other separate technique or method. To tell you honestly I don’t believe in any other techniques or methods. Those things all good thing to create a feel-good-feeling in the initial inspiration. Initial inspiration. This unclutching, I can say, the straight, strong method. Just a simple remembrance. Whenever a thought rises in you, do not give meaning to it. Unclutch! Just remember the word unclutching.

(12:04)

Maybe in the initial level, morning half an hour or everyday if you sit for half an hour or ten minutes, it will give you a clarity. More and more clarity. Then after sometime, you don’t need to sit separately. Whole day, whether you are sitting, or talking or in the office or driving or watching or doing whatever. Whatever you may be doing, that itself can be part of your...unclutching will be part of your life and just...you see, you will not have a person to command you. You will not have a person to judge you inside. That’s all is Living Enlightenment. Now, you have somebody who commands you and person who commands you will naturally judge you. Person who commands you, somebody is commanding you inside- You do it and he is judging you continuously. That person will not be there. That is what is Living Enlightenment.

(13:01)

Devotee: Does diseases visit us because of our prarabdha and our past karmas? So if we are going to be healing ourselves in this birth by unclutching as Your Grace said, then is it that we are writing off that prarabdha?

(13:15)

Swamiji: You see, karma itself is nothing but energylessness. Please understand. It is like a photograph. See, if a scene is exposed to a film, that light and darkness gets impressed. If you expose that same film to the sun, what will happen? The whole thing will become blank means the full sun can’t be captured. Full energy can’t have karma. The lightlessness is darkness. Energylessness is karma. Wherever there is less energy, karma comes to play. So bringing energy does not mean you are...for example, when...people ask Me also, “Swamiji, do You suffer our karmas?” I tell them, “No. When sun comes, the lotus blooms by itself and the darkness disappears. Does sun eat the darkness? No! Just by the very presence that disappears.

(14:20)

So the very presence of an intense... unclutching, I can say that is the right word. The very presence of a person who is completely unclutched, heals. There is no such thing as I take the karma and burn. There is no interaction. There is no bargain. There is no business happens. Here there is no giving and taking. Just the very quality or the presence of the being does the job. That’s all! The disease comes from the inner space. Disease comes from outer space. There are two things.

(14:52)

As far as Ramana Maharshi concerned, he used the body like how I use this kerchief and put it here. Same way, Ramana Maharshi used the body. He saw the purpose is over and He dropped it. When the cup falls from the hand and breaks, it gets disintegrated and goes back to the nature. Same way, he dropped the cup-his body and it disintegrated and went back to the nature. Naturally there should be some disease to disintegrate. That is what has happened. I don’t think He suffered. See, Ramana...surely the quality of Ramana Maharshi’s cancer, the quality of ordinary person’s cancer is different. So you can’t call it as disease.

(15:31)

It is like a just body….see, when you don’t have the desire or the need to live in the body, body can be just dropped. He dropped the body. So I can’t say that this is the same disease which ordinary people suffer. Totally, the quality itself is different. The person itself is different because Bhagavan Himself healed so many people. He has healed so many people. There is no reason why He should suffer. He has just dropped the body. From outside when we see, we see it as a ...the body getting cancer and disintegrating and falling into it. That’s all!

(16:10)

Same way, Ramakrishna. How many cancers he healed! And somebody asked Ramakrishna, “Ramakrishna, why don’t you heal your throat cancer? Why don’t you just put your awareness on the throat for two minutes? It will be healed.” And Ramakrishna says, “Fool! I have already given My mind to Devi and it is not there with Me. How can I concentrate on My throat?” He says. He uses the very word ‘fool.’ Says in Bengali “Bhoka” and “I have given away My mind. How can I bring it back and put it on My throat?”

(16:42)

Devotee: Process of healing through meditation one person heals the other one. that does take place, that does happen?

(16:50)

SPH: You see, using the power of the mind, you can do that game. But in My healing science, the healing science which I am practising and spreading, does not need to use your mind. You see, the Reiki, Pranic healing and all, you can use some symbols. Some symbol, some colour. It does help. No doubt about it but in that, the karma exchange happens. The karma exchange happens.

(17:14)

Devotee: Healer gets the karma.

(17:15)

SPH: Healer gets the karma. So surely I think that is...I can say, the worst mistake. Worst mistake. See, anything done using the mind-both person will suffer. The person who got healed also has to...naturally he will get back the karma, disease after that because the mental set up is not changed, you see. See, the symptom is healed but the mental set up which creates the symptom is the same. But in the case of the Master’s presence which is not using the mind...See, I am not using the mind. It is the presence. So naturally beyond his mind, healing will happen. His mind also will be healed means the mental set up which creates the symptom also will be handled, will be touched, will be healed.

(18:04)

But usually when the simple healers like using emblem, symbols and colours, when they heal, they can heal only the symptoms. So naturally the problem is one: the person will have the disease back again because he will create it again. Have the disease means not the same disease. He will create the disease again. Second thing: the person who healed, he will also have to suffer the karma.

(18:27)

See, this game happens in a fourth layer. I can say, emotional level. So it’s very dangerous. I personally feel that it will hinder the spiritual growth of a person who is healing and the person who gets healed. It is better to sit with the person who does not have mind or who is Enlightened even if it takes little time. The problem is, those healers will give a immediate result like a steroid. In My case, I can’t give a steroid effect. It will take little time. Maybe some week or some, few days but this healing does a big job, permanent job. Of course, if I start talking little more deeply, it will be more like a promoting. I don’t want to do that job. Okay, we will…

(19:15)

Devotee: You told that You are here to all of us has to realize, common person’s life has to be raised

(19:27)

SPH: There is no common person. Persons, that’s all.

(19:31)

Devotee:XXXX(not clear)

(19:42)

SPH: In their case, there is a truth. You understand! Please understand. I am here to make you realise you are God. No doubt about it but in the case of Ramana Maharshi, He realised He is God. Surely the other persons have not realised. Now if you realise you are god like Ramana Maharshi, naturally your disease and the other person’s disease will be different. That’s all. You understand? That...where I use that word, that Ramana Maharshi and other things, that is a realised and unrealised. here, I am saying I am here to make you realise. That is true. No doubt about it.

(20:16)

Devotee: Swamiji, Paramahansa Yogananda died of old age?

(20:24)

SPH: See, Paramahamsa Yogananda did not have any disease. He just like that left the body. If you have read that Paramahamsa Yogananda’s biography, He just said very clearly. I think in half an hour, I will be relaxing. Please get ready. and He was attending a meeting. He was attending a meeting. He was honoured by the Ambassador...Indian Ambassador, some Sen. B.G.Sen or something. He was honoured and immediately He looked at the watch and said, “I think half an hour more, I will be done.” And He just said and all the people were sitting around Him. His disciples were sitting. He lifted the hand, did namaskar and left the body. That is the way He left.

(21:04)

You see, to tell you honestly, you can’t judge those people’s activity, their activities! but I can be surely, I can surely say one thing. If Bhagavan wants, He could have healed His cancer. That much I can be sure. That I can be sure. Other than that, you can’t judge their activities. And one more thing, in the cosmic wave, these are too minor for these Masters. How you leave the body and all those things are just too minor. To tell you honestly, what really matters for Me you know, how many people have become unclutched by Me, that’s all. Nothing else matters. Not these centers and ashrams.

(21:45)

People tell Me, “Oh! Thousand centres.” Centre means what? In the devotees house, they are running. What is there for Me? And somebody comes and tells Me, “Swamiji, I believe You.” I tell them, “Arey! By believing Me, you talk as if you have done a favour to Me.” It’s not. You are doing a favour to YOU, not to Me. “No, no, in my house I run Your centre.” I tell them, “It’s not that you are doing a favour to Me. You are doing some favour to you.” So nothing matters. There is nothing matters. How many people are unclutched-that’s all matters! See, when you walk on the planet earth in unclutched way, planet earth is blessed. Just planet earth is blessed. So how many more people are going to bless the planet earth by walking on it in unclutched way is the only thing. Nothing else!

(22:36)

Title:

How to Identify The Avatar - The Story of Swan, Unclutch Discourse Part 5

Description:

In this video Swamiji gives a discourse and explains the essence of life, and what having a master is. He tells a story about some fish, a swan, and the different reactions that the fish have when they see the swan’s reflection in the water they are living in. Swamiji uses this allegory to prove to us that everything we see and perceive about the master(the swan) is not true to reality. The whole point of life, as Swamiji explains, is to look up and think that there might be something beyond the reflection. This is how we should view our relationship with the master in order to catch the essence of him. Instead of trying to logically define him we should simply be inspired by his form to provoke wonder about life itself. This is what true spirituality is.

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[00:15]

Participant: “...Paramahamsa had cancer of throat. Then Swami ….. also had cancer, Swami Chinmayananda also..” SPH: Not only... I can give you a big list of cancer and enlightenment. I don’t know why. Participant: Could you see any correlation HDH: I tried to do some research, but I did not find any correlation, because there’s a huge list of people who... masters who left the body without cancer. (Swamiji laughing)😃 No, no, no, no, no, no, because I try to, you see, ahh, I myself a kind of person who constantly does this kind of researches and all these things. So, I am not able to come up with any clear logic or proof that cancer and enlightenment is some way connected. 😃

[01:01]

Participant: “Because this question … 90% diseases are psychosomatic. ….When these….way the spiritual masters how amazing. Then little bit somewhere that question comes - why they suffer? SPH: One thing, that’s what I told you na. They have, they had pain, but no suffering. That’s the first thing. Second thing, you see it’s like dropping the body. You see, when you, ahh, Ramakrishna says very clearly, in 1886 January 1st he says: “Today I dropped the will to live, carry this body anymore.” Within eight months he left the body. See, when you drop the will to leave the body, live in the body, when you drop the body, the easiest disease is cancer. And straight away it attacks and takes away the body; that’s what I feel. Otherwise consciously I don’t see any connection between the ahh.. You see, cancer is related to Swadhisthana chakra. According to Patanjali cancer is related to Swadhisthana chakra. Swadhisthana is the survival instinct. Swadhisthana chakra, Spleen chakra is a survival instinct. So, when these masters relax from the survival instinct, naturally the ahh.. body is taken over by that disease and it disintegrates.

[02:20]

Participant: “This enlightened souls having cancer at the last moment is it not better explained by the theory of karma, the only difference being that, since they were the enlightened souls, they realise that this karma is there, this karma has to be suffered; I mean without suffering they have to be suffered, so that, that also pass through” SPH: Do you want the social answer or honest answer? 😃 If you, if it just a social answer, if it is a public meeting, if you asked this question, I would have said, “Yes, yes, yes it must be” and left it. But I feel I can honestly speak, it’s a small group and... Hmm. Let Me... now I have to bring My experience into the scene. See, there are some things which can be proved by somebody else’s experience, there are some things which can be proved only by the personal experience. I personally feel and experienced, there is no karma for enlightened person. There is no karma. And there is no karma in front of Me. I could, I am very clearly able to see. The games which I play, the possibilities are there. If I am getting into the car and driving, the possibility for accident is always there. But I am very clear before itself, all the possibilities in front of Me. Just because My inner space is so vast, where all the possibilities can appear and disappear, there is no karma binding Me. You under, am I... Did I explain? I don’t know whether I...

[03:56]

Participant: “...by your own perception. SPH: Maybe I can give you this one incident. Please be seated. Nisargadatta Maharaj, you heard of this Nisargadatta Maharaj? Great master, very great master. Somebody goes to him and asks him: “Bhagavan, ahhh enlightened beings do not have karma, then how are you able to talk to us?” He said: “I am not talking to you.” Then that guy says: “No, you are talking to me! Is it not a karma?” Then he says beautifully: “I am just there in my pure space. Because you want to see me talking, you are seeing me talking.” It’s little strong. “Because you want to see me talking, you see me talking.” See, it's like a..mmh… nothing gets recorded in Me what I am talking, and nothing is prepared; a pure inner space. Just what you are throwing, that waves and movements you are watching. You are witnessing.

[05:04]

I can say maybe put it in this way, there is no editing happening inside. There is no, you see, there is no interest to inspire you or there is no interest to convince you. To tell you honestly. You may be from morning... last two, three hours of my act, you may be thinking I am interested in inspiring you, or I am interested in convincing you. I have to tell the honest truth, I am not interested in convincing or inspiring. It is just the overflowing joy. My overflowing excitement, I come out of My room and sit in the car. The overflowing excitement for no reason, you are, something I am sharing. The same overflowing excitement for no reason, your question I am answering. It is just a overflowing excitement for no reason. If I am not sitting in this hall, if I am sitting in the ashram, I’ll be same way, just excited, sitting with brahmacharis, or chatting something and doing something. So it is just a overflowing excitement. If there is no, if there are no brahmacharis, I will be sitting with the trees in My room. And same thing, there is no instinct or a interest to do anything particular, a intense excitement towards anything and everything. Intense excitement towards anything and everything, not particularly directed to one point, is what I call consciousness. So, you just see some part of Me reflecting to you.

[06:41]

Participant: ….of our preconceived notions and … background and even in case of Lord Mahavira we believe that when he attained the stage of enlightenment he still had karmas to pass through.” SPH: Oh that, you see, when disciples write biography, they will write like that. Hmm. Ahh, and one more thing, you know. See, when disciples write biography, they have to make Guru God. The problem is, how I experience Myself as God and how he remembers Me as God is a big problem. He wants Me to have four hand and he wants Me to have... ahhh, do all kinds of magics and everything. But in My case, you see, even intuition is a lie. What is intuition, you know - purified intelligence is intuition. See, when you have the intuition, it’s not that against your intellect you will, you will have some decision, you will follow. People ask Me: “Swamiji, don’t you have intuition to tell something, to do something, what should I do?” I tell them: “Exactly intuition means, you know, it’s not that according to your logical decision, your logic says, you have to go now from here, but intuition will suddenly say from the deep: “No, no, no, sit here itself.” It never happens in that way. Your very logic will be refined, purified to such level, what decision it takes itself will be intuition. So it is just a simple flowing, just a simple flowing.” But the disciple does not want that. He wants something extraordinary, he wants a aura around Me. He wants four hand. He wants that I should put my hand like this, some light will come out and that 80 year old lady will become 16 old girl. “And oh, what happened, your grace, your energy.” So he has to write the biography. You understand? He has to write the biography, that is what has happened.

[08:35]

In Ramakrishnas case also, when they wrote the biography, they started saying it’s a... He took somebody’s karma and healed and all those things. Ramakrishna himself answers in Kathamrutha, there’s a beautiful book called Ramakrishna Kathamrutha. In that he says: “Fools, don’t write like this and all, don’t tell like that; ahh it’s nobody’s karma, I don’t have any karma.” Vivekanada says beautifully: “If you try to present me as a God you imagined, I will come as a ghost and catch your throat.” He says in 😃 In one of his letter he writes: “Do not build temple for me, and do not project me as a God, as YOU WANT. Present me experience God as I experienced. Do not present me as a God as you want, then I’ll come and catch your throat.” He says very clearly: “I will come as a ghost and catch your throat.” So, this gap only is the problem. You see, problem is this gap.

[09:30]

Let Me describe in this way, this one story. You heard this Paramahamsa story, that the swans, they lay the egg, and the egg before even reaches the ground it hatches and the swan flies back, it just stays there itself. It’s a story from Ramakrishna the Paramahamsa. I read from Ramakrishna so... that’s all ahhh gospel. Hmm gospel he describes you see. That swan is called Paramahamsa, enlightened beings and suddenly the reflection of that swan fell on one tank and a small river and in some lake. When the... in a lake when the reflection came, happened, all the fishes in that lake started jumping around that swan. “Oh ohh, there is a... some big fish has come.” Some fishes have started telling: “Oh, one big white fish has come.” And they all started jumping. Some other fishes say: “ No, no, no, it is not a fish, it is something else.” And some other fishes have started telling: “No, no, no, it is not fish, not anything else, it’s a bird.” And all of them started jumping around and playing around that swan.

[10:42]

One fish told: “Heyy, stop! Only I will allow you to go near that fish.” And he became the chief disciple. And 😃, some other fishes have started telling: “No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, let us ahhh, have a small small houses here around, and live around this swan. It looks so pretty.” And ashram is created. And... this is the way the things happen. And suddenly one day, see, when the reflection falls on the ahhh lake which is in India, all the Indian fishes gather and ashram gets created. If the same reflection falls on in some other country, in some other lake, all those country fishes gather and create a ashram. They become, the settlement happens. So all these things are happening. One important thing, some time some fishes jump on that swan and think: “Oh, this swan is so loving, caring, it is always hugging, so much of showering.” Some fishes jump out of the swan and say: “No, no, no, no, this swan is not like that, it is kicking me out. It’s not loving and caring as it is shown. It is a, it’s filled with hatred and violence.” Some fishes write a reminiscence: “Oh, this a loving, caring swan.” Some fishes write a reminiscence: “No, no, it's a ahhh filled with hatred and violence.” All these things are happening. One important thing, swan is not aware of any of these things. The original swan, he is not aware of any of these dramas. Some fishes jump this way, some jump that way. One more thing, all the biographies written by fishes are all about reflection, not about the swan; about the reflection, not about the swan. One ahh important thing, the swan, the reflection happens for only one reason: The swan expects, suddenly some fish may think: “No, it is neither fish, nor swan, nothing. It is something else beyond reflecting.” And the fish may look up and recognise the original swan. That is the only reason the swan is flying over the waters. It is letting the reflections to happen on the water. Otherwise the swan is not even aware of the whole drama goes on. Suddenly, the swan moves out and the reflection is not there, it’s all over. The fishes which were playing, now what they will do? “Oh god, we missed.”

[13:20]

I always tell people, “Instead of playing around the reflection, look at the swan. Catch the swan” Till, you see, when the reflection is not there, you don’t know which direction to look up. Reflection is like living master, master in the body. Swan is the original master, the being. When the body is there for the master, he can easily show where to look. When you see the reflection, use the time and energy only to look up and catch the swan. If people are just playing around, some doing this, that things, finally what they will do, when the reflection disappeared, they may build a monument, they will bring some stones here and there, all the fishes will pick up some stones, bring it and assemble it and say: “Oh, this is the spot, when the reflection, when the, when we saw the reflection of the swan. In those days we were all playing whole night with the swan. There was a moon, there was a purnima, in that beautiful scene the swan was there, we were all jumping around.” They can write reminiscences and stories and build monuments, that's all. And instead of trying to create reminiscences, stories, histories, monuments, intelligent few fishes look up and catch the swan. That’s all. 😃 The whole drama I have solidified in one story. This is the one story, how the spiritual organisations are created, how the biographies are written, how the movements happen, how the religions evolve, how the whole thing evolves and lives. That’s all. 😃

[15:01]

Participant: “ …. layman's language what is unclutching? And how does one unclutch?” SPH: Yes, this is a beautiful word. Let Me answer this, straight answer. When you sit, thought will come naturally, some thought will come. The moment you see the thoughts are, some thoughts are coming, without giving meaning to it. You can, you will give meaning only if you connect with your past. Am I right? Without giving meaning to it, just remember to unclutch and see what happens. The moment you remember, that let me unclutch from this thought, means let me not give meaning to it, for few seconds there will be a small silent gap. The moment you are aware that there is a silence, it will become one more thought. Then unclutch from that thought. You understand? Then again, there will be two second, just few second gap only. Then there will be one more thought: “I am in silence, or I am unclutching.” Unclutch from that thought. Just that gap or the silence should become longer and longer. Over.

[16:15]

And what will happen after that, don’t have to bother now. And naturally mind will say…. after few minutes mind will go away somewhere, wander around, the moment you remember mind has gone around, then, unclutch then, that time unclutch. No need to be, no need to have guilt or no need to bother ‘Mind has wandered.’ Nothing. The moment you remember - unclutch. That’s all. No, no, no, you see, when you, when I say, when I, when I use the word banish the thought, stop the thought, you will start suppressing. Participant: Distract the mind to stop? SPH: No, no need to distract. Just remember, ‘let me unclutch. Let me not encourage this thought, let me not empower this thought’, that’s all. I am not saying empower something else. I am not saying encourage something else. Just do not encourage what is happening now. You may say: “How can it be possible?” Just remembrance of this unclutching. Then any other thought comes “No, no, no, unclutching is one more thought”, unclutch from that too. In the initial level it will be very gross, very solid, you may have to, like a fight, you may have to utter that word ‘unclutching’ like a mantra. It may look like a mantra. But just few seconds, few moments, suddenly you will see it becomes subtle process. When I talk, it has to be gross process, because I am verbally communicating. When you do, it will not be verbally this strong solid process, this will become a subtle process.

[17:51]

Participant: “Swamiji, many of us you know have experienced that this what you are telling, of course we did not use that word but we have experienced that this needs a very strenuous mental exercise and that is not very easy for the common human beings.” SPH: Can I answer this question? Let Me… I am telling you, I am really honest. Please understand, I am responsible for what I am talking, I am really honest. This is, “this needs a strenuous mental exercise” is an idea put into your head. See, two thing. You always lived with numbers. Numbers is not life. In your mind, you reduced your whole life into numbers. So if you have… ahhh playing with numbers is a strenuous exercise. Now, this technique also you are trying to make it like a number. How many times I have to do to make it as life? You are trying to make again, make numbers out of this technique. That is why the idea ‘strenuous’ comes in the scene. The idea ‘strenuous’ ‘mental exercise’ is nothing but a number game. You understand? I tried one thousand time, I failed, that is why it is strenuous. The number game itself is a one more mental game, you understand? So, without trying only, your mind says you will believe the words of your mind, it’s a strenuous mental game. Just try, even when the mind says it is a strenuous mental game, unclutch from it. One more thought, just a simple game, your mind is playing. And try to play with it. Suddenly you will see, this very courage puts your mind completely into silence.

[19:38]

Participant: Swamiji one….question. Why at all will thoughts arise? is it because of manufacturing defect... SPH: If it is, if it is a manufacturing defect, we will put the blame on God. So, I can’t say manufacturing defect. The possibility, you see, the mind can be called as a manufacturing defect or can be called as possibility to exchange. 😃 You understand? The manufacturing defect you can blame the manufacturer or the possibility for exchange is there. So, let us look in the angle of possibility for exchange, to get the updated software. 😃 Maybe to constantly to remind you, you are not complete, the mind is put inside the system. Otherwise you may not raise your frequency. You may not continuously be aware that you need to expand. You need to experience something higher.

[20:40]

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The Truth You Need To Know, Unclutch Discourse Part 6

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In this session, Swamiji says A normal man projects his “GOD” out of fear and greed, Swamiji talks about painshaft and Joyshaft, Science is not evolved enough to touch spirituality, definition of God Watch, share and like the videos and Subscribe to our channel to be notified of the next upload.

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(0:15)

Thought means just flowing. Sometime you touch it means awareness. Sometime you don’t touch it. It is just going. This is the way it is happening. Whenever you touch it and whatever you experience, you do not just leave it. You pick up them and try to create an idea about what is going on in you. You are not able to live with the whole what is going on. So you wanted to just pick up few things and live with that. See, if your house is too big, you live in one portion and decorate, try to put your energy, attention, everything on that one portion. Trying to create that one portion is what this joy shaft or pain shaft. Sometime you create that pain shaft as a part of you. Sometime you create the joy shaft as a part of you.

(01:06)

Devotee: Shaft means exactly what do you mean?

(01:07)

Swamiji: Just create an idea. You see, now you have an idea, ‘This food is very tasty.’ That idea, why? Because many times you had that food and it was tasty. So just the idea, just that depth, that thing. That is where the whole struggle starts. That’s where the whole trouble starts. Instead of giving the idea, ‘This food is tasty because so many times I ate and I have an idea about taste’ and all those things, relax and straight away just eat. You will see it’s totally different. It is not just the word ‘tasty’. And one more thing, whenever you create a label, when you say the particular experience or a person brings joy to you, second time the same person, same situation, same place or the same thing, same object may not bring that same joy to you, because the mind has come in between. It has created the game.

(02:06)

So whenever you create a joy shaft, you try to elongate by bringing that same person, same object, same situation into the life so that expecting the same joy will come, the joy shaft will become longer but the same joy does not come. So the struggle to create, elongate the joy shaft leads only to pain. Then when you have the pain, you try to disconnect or disturb, break the pain shaft. The more you try to break the pain shaft, the more life you give. Actually, if you just sit and watch, ‘Let me have the death fear, it’s okay’, automatically it will be replaced by some other thought but the more you try, ‘Let me not have the death fear,’ you already created a gap by ‘Let me not have’ so that the death fear can again come! Because you created a gap, you are creating facility for death fear to happen. If you just relax, death fear cannot continue to be in your inner space. Because by your very nature, your inner space is replaced. If you relax, it will be replaced. If you try to replace, it will come back. That’s the whole thing.

(03:24)

Without understanding the logic how the inner world functions, we are creating suffering. See, if you just relax, even if it is the worst fear of death or lust or greed, it can’t hold your inner space. As I told you, simple thought will replace it, but if you are trying to replace, you are creating a gap for that to happen again. It cannot be permanently there. That is the law. So if you relax, what will happen? Something else will come and replace it. Because you are not relaxing, you are creating some other thought, so you yourself replacing, creating new thought and making now space for that death fear to come back. Because you are replacing, death fear, what it thinks, ‘Oh! Now already one more thought has come. Now I can go back again. Let us go back.’ So, by suppressing, you are inviting. By reacting, you are creating. By replacing by force, you are creating place.

(04:28)

Devotee: Like uninvited guest, the thoughts...

(04:30)

Swamiji: Ha, uninvited guest. Uninvited guest also creates irritation, you see. You don’t have to create that irritation. Sometime it creates irritation. It doesn’t have to be irritation. It is like a completely non caring. A complete, what to say, that, not bothered. Not bothered, not bothered. Even these words are too small. Unclutching is the ultimate, right word. Use that word itself.

(04:57)

Devotee: What is Your view on scientific reasoning on spiritual healing?

(05:04)

Swamiji: It is good in the initial level as an inspiration. To tell you honestly, science is not that evolved to touch spirituality. Please, I am not...if I sound little strong, please forgive Me. See, science is a bachcha-four hundred year old guy and spirituality is something like ten thousand year old science. And one more thing, our Masters are not something like cheaters or superstitious guys or immatured people. They lived such a intense quality of Consciousness! They lived with such great quality of Consciousness. So we don’t have to use this ordinary scientist to measure our Masters. This is too small scale, you understand. In the initial level, we too talk. I also talk in some places science and spirituality and all just to inspire the initial level people and it’s like a ...the language in which they understand, I talk to them. Science is not evolved to touch the spiritual heights. You understand? Spirituality has reached totally different heights and depth.

(06:12)

Science is just a ...if you read the Albert Einstein’s books, Einstein’s literatures, you will see in the last days, he says very clearly. After this, science cannot evolve. Only the mystics can answer everything. Where science ends, spirituality starts. So, in the initial level, okay. It is like a bridging game. You also be there. We will also be there. Let us help each other and all those things. The scientific reasoning if it helps you your shraddha, your sincerity, okay, have it but the science is not that big to measure spirituality. There are thousands of things. If it sounds too mystical, please forgive Me. I have seen with My own eyes. These two eyes I have seen yogis levitating and all those things. How will you define? Science can never justify. Can never...yes

(07:09)

Devotee: Is it not self confidence oneself by saying spirituality is much bigger than science?

(07:17)

Swamiji: The moment this question comes, I have to become silent. Sorry. I have to become silent... You see, is it self confidence or spiritual experience, this is a very subtle line. If you experience what I am saying, then I can be authentically say it is a spiritual experience. You see, it is not only just Mine, it is yours also but till you experience, you always have a right to say that it is ego or self confidence. You have the right to complain till I give you the experience. So now, I don’t have any reason or logical justification. So, I have to back.

(07:56)

Devotee: Who are writing the biography and there is a God as person whom we call as Master!

(08:01)

Swamiji: Ha yes, two thing.

(08:05)

Devotee: now what is the difference between the two and what is actually God?

(08:07)

Swamiji: See, one thing. Person who is feeling he is missing money in the life, who will be his God? Only Lakshmi, goddess of wealth. Person who is feeling he is missing knowledge in his life, who will be his God? Naturally the Saraswati, the goddess of knowledge. He will be constantly remembering only that Deity. Whatever you feel is missing in you, you will project that and fulfillment of that only you will feel as God. Whatever you feel you are missing, you will try to have it by meditating or believing or praying to that energy. So a normal man projects his God out of his fear or greed. An Enlightened Being does not project anything. He just lives his very life. The very life radiates Godliness.

(08:57)

Exactly if you want to ask the definition of God, whatever is, that isness if you...you see, it is like a ...I was talking about I understanding both identities are false. Identity which you are trying to project to the outer world, the identity which you carry in you as you-both are lies. The moment you understand this and relax, what great inner healing happens! See, the moment somebody convinces you clearly, inspires you and says you don’t have to prove yourself to the world or you don’t have to prove yourself to the yourself, what tremendous relaxation happens! What tremendous rest happens!

(09:43)

Devotee: What You are trying to say is the tremendous feeling of relaxation…

(09:47)

Swamiji: That inner healing I call God.

(09:50)

Devotee: Inner healing or tremendous feeling of relaxation. For ordinary person, I am personally saying, if an old lady is going to the temples, they are in the same field which by unclutching…

(10:03)

Swamiji: Then surely they have evolved. Their devotion has evolved.

(10:06)

Devotee: So, by rituals also they are coaching at the same level by following this path of unclutching and with Consciousness we are achieving the same results

(10:20)

Swamiji: Yes, see, both are ...both can reach the same goal. It takes little time, that’s all.

(10:28)

Devotee: Buddha is also reaching there.

(10:29)

Swamiji: Buddha is also reaching there. No doubt at all. What is the difference? There is no doubt. One thing. You see, I am not against ritual. If you come to our ashram, you will see the amount of ritual goes on there. I am a person every...wherever it is possible, I erect temples and continuously rituals goes on. I am not against rituals or I am not against these basic traditions. Maybe I may not accept this statement. See, I am not against rituals. No, no. I am not against rituals. Usually I am great supporter of rituals and I Myself perform in mass scale like a thousand eight Homa Kundas we place and do and something like a ...this Shivaratri if you come, twelve hours continuously rituals will be there in the ashram. March 6th whole night.

(11:16)

All these things are okay but I don’t say it is the easiest way. I can say, if it inspires you to go to the higher level, it is easiest way but sometimes it just perspires, not inspires. In that level, it’s danger. You see, who teaches you ritual is the main thing. With what understanding you do the ritual is the main thing. So I cannot say it is easiest way. I don’t feel it is a easiest way. With understanding it can be easiest way. Not without that. So when you say that few ladies reaching the same level, I can say by and by, the understanding would have been added to their being. That only raises them.

(12:04)

Beautifully Shankara says in Vivekachoodamani, even kalpaka paryanta, one Brahma’s age, if you are doing rituals without the knowledge or the understanding, you will not reach anywhere. Beautifully Shankara puts in Vivekachoodamani. So, I feel the rituals are okay to start. I am not against them. I Myself practice, teach and I keep the whole tradition alive. So that is not the thing. But we need the understanding part. We need to give little more importance to understanding part, that’s all I am saying.

(12:38)

Devotee: XXXX(not clear)... so many thoughts are coming, if a particular thought will… first focus on that then…!

(12:53)

Swamiji: No, no, no. These are all too many. You are again bringing too many numbers into one process. You understand? You don’t have to focus on the thought to unclutch. Unclutching does not need to be...you see, after unclutching, you may have the focus to Consciousness but for unclutching, you don’t need focus to Consciousness. Concentration is a by-product of meditation. Not...concentration is not path for meditation. Unclutch in the dream also. It is possible. In the day you see, actually your night dreaming is nothing but the reflection of daydreaming.

(13:35)

Devotee: No, but for instance...

(13:37)

Swamiji: Let Me finish describing. Day dreaming means in the whole day constantly oscillating. If you unclutch during daydreaming, that same awareness will enter into night dreaming. See, daydreaming and night dreaming is very closely connected. Daydreaming, if you reduce the daydreaming, night dreaming will reduce. In the daydreaming reduction means unclutching in the daytime. Naturally you will start unclutching in the night time. I have seen it happening in My own life.

(14:07)

Devotee: Is it on the subconscious level?

(14:09)

Swamiji: You see, the unclutching is such a powerful technique, it can reach to your subconscious and unconscious... Now insert it into your consciousness and start churning and it will reach to subconscious and unconscious. It’s like a ‘Ksheera sagara mardana’. They call it churning of the milky ocean. Just like that. If you understand that story - the Meru, the hill is the technique-unclutching. And all the devatas are good thoughts. All the rakshasas are bad thoughts. Mind is the snake. The technique is the Meru-the hill and the mind is the snake. Good thoughts are devatas and bad thoughts are rakshasas and the milky ocean is your Consciousness. Start churning.

(15:00)

Devotee: What is tortoise?

(15:01)

Swamiji: Guru is the tortoise who is balancing the technique properly and Guru is the tortoise. And start churning this side and that side and you will see suddenly, first, the Kalpataru will come. All your desires will be fulfilled. Different energies will come. Siddhis will come. All these devatas who want that, they stop with that, that’s all. And after that, deep depression will come out. That is Halahala-tiredness or depression. The mind by churning, churning, churning, your mind will say, ‘No, I am bored. I am tired. This is not going to lead anywhere. This Swami came and taught something. I am sitting and doing something here.’ This idea. It is hardous, strenuous mental process. That is the poison-Halahala visha.

(15:47)

That time the person who comes and swallows that poison and gives you the inspiration is Master, Shiva. He comes and swallows that poison and gives you the inspiration, ‘No, don’t bother, churn again’ and He is the Master, Shiva. Again, Shiva appears as Vishnu, tortoise and maintains the churning process and He appears as a protection, guide, during the depression and keeps the ...gives you the encouragement and finally what comes out is Amrita-Enlightenment.

(16:19)

Till then the churning has to continue, continue, continue. Unclutching has to be drilled continuously. You see, this idea ‘I have to continue unclutching’ also you take now. Don’t even have that idea. Just unclutch this moment. Just unclutch this moment. You will never feel bored by unclutching. If you start thinking about unclutching, you may feel bored, not by unclutching. I have never seen anybody feeling bored by unclutching. They feel bored by thinking about unclutching. ‘How long I can unclutch? What will happen? Why should I unclutch? When it will end?’ You will feel bored. You will have the problems. Just by unclutching, nobody felt bored. Every moment will be new. Every moment will be ecstasy. Every moment will be joy. Every moment will be excitement. Unclutching is a source of unending excitement. Ananda Spurana. The unending excitement and intensity.

(17:23)

Devotee: Without mind, how do you think the great advances of science and technology will take place?

(17:28)

Swamiji: All great advances and breakthroughs happen only when the gap between the mind happened! Please understand. Not only Albert Einstein. I Myself personally met one scientist. I forgot his name just three years before in San Jose. He discovered laser and maser, and got the nobel prize. I Myself personally sat with him. I had a lunch with him. I was talking to him, “How did you discover? Exactly describe the experience. How it happened?” He said, “Swamiji, it is a business secret. I can’t tell.” Then finally he agreed to tell. He told Me, “Swamiji, I was thinking, thinking, thinking. Nothing happened about this. Suddenly one day early morning in New York, I went for a walk and I was relaxing in the bench. I decided that I am not going to be successful. I am supposed to present this in a meeting after three days. So I decided that I am not going to appear in that meeting. I am not going to present. Forget about it. I relaxed. Over!

(18:37)

Suddenly I don’t know how it happened. There was a big gap, silence in my inner space in the...when I was resting in the New York park and end of that gap-silence, this whole formula was revealed. It just happened in me, in my logic. And one important thing, I know the result but I do not know how I come to the...came to the conclusion. I did not know the steps. Now if I present the result in the meeting, they will tell that I have stolen the result because I don’t know the steps. Three days I sat and developed the steps and third day I presented, Swamiji.” He says, “I developed the steps and presented.” Not only his experience, I Myself personally studied many of the breakthroughs, many breakthroughs. It always happened between the gaps, not by thinking.

(19:32)

One thing, one thing. Our Masters have put all their attention and energy in the inner science. They did not bother about the outer world. See, they did not bother to build dams and bridges but they bothered to build huge temples. To tell you honestly, surely if we did not build temples and build the dams and infrastructure and airports and dams and we put the energy in the outer things, the way in which the West has spent the energy, we would have excelled much, much better. You see, please understand. Do not measure India with the Western standards. They abuse us by constantly measuring us with their standard. Just see the depression rate, crime rate. See the depression rate.

(20:18)

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Dynamic Consciousness Intensely Focused In The Outer World Experiencing God

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In this video (25 February 2008), SPH JGM Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashivam expands on the nature of dynamic Consciousness. He explains about the two identities that we carry - Inner Image (Mamakar) & Outer Image (Ahankar), and how our life is a continuous conflict between these two. Materialists work on the Ahankara, and spiritualists work on the Mamakar. SPH describes a meditation technique to 'unclutch' from both of these and experience true freedom.

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I welcome you all with My love and respects. Thank you for the introduction and inviting Me.

People ask Me... This, this, “Are you God?” question is the...question from time immemorial all the Masters are asked. This question is a very tricky question... and whenever people ask Me, “Are you God”, I again and again tell them, “I am not here to prove I am God, I am here to prove you are God”. So whether I am or not, is no way directly related to your life. But one thing is sure, we are all... everybody carries that glimpse, carries that truth inside us; as we heard in the introduction about the Kabir’s verses, beautiful verses.

When you are awakened, we really feel we are God; it’s not egoistic statement.... please understand, it is not egoistic feeling. Being focused is the side effect of Dynamic Consciousness. Being focused in the world does not mean that this is the only reality. In the Dynamic Consciousness, you will have your inner space experiencing this world intensely, intensely focused. At the same time, you will be experiencing the truth, which is beyond this world, what we call God or Divinity or whatever it is.

I’ll try to share few truths, satyas. We will analyze it, with our questions. We’ll try to internalize it, by questioning. Then we may be able to enter into a meditation technique, to experience the truth.

(2:50)

First few things I want to present in front of you - the Satya. In Vedanta we have 3 steps - Shravana, Manana, Nididhyasana. Shravana means listening, Manana means contemplating or questioning, internalizing….internalizing. Nididhyasana means living it, expressing it.

Few basic truths - We carry 2 identities: One, the identity which we project to the outer world - how we want the world to know, how we want to present our self to the world, how we want the world to remember us. We call this in the word ‘ahankaar’. Second: mamakaar - the identity which we believe as we inside our heart. The identity which we want to project to the outer world and the identity which we believe as we inside us - this we call ‘mamakaar’. The whole life is nothing but the fight between this ahankaar and mamakaar - the identity which we want to project to the outer world and the identity which we believe as we.

The big problem is, people who think the identity which we want to project to the outer world, is the reality - they become materialistic. They spend their whole life to fulfil that identity, to make that identity into reality, to make that personality into reality. I think in your profession, you will see these kind of people enough. The people who want to prove the outer world identity as a reality. The second group: people who start believing the identity which they believe inside as reality. They only become….I can say that kind of a religious people or yogis, constantly chiselling themself, constantly trying to develop themself.

The identity which you project to the outer world will be always much more than what you are. It will always be much more than what you are. You will try always to project something more than what is and the identity you believe as you in the inner world, will always be lower than what you are. You will continuously condemning, criticizing, judging you. It will always be much lower than what you are. One group who believes the identity which you project to the outer world, the ‘ahankaar’ - they become materialistic. The other group who believe the mamakaar, the identity which you believe as you, that as a reality, that people they become kind of a religious people or we can say that yogis, continuously chiselling themselves, continuously working on themself, continuously trying to develop themself. Very few realize the truth – Neither the identity which you project to the outer world is a reality, nor the identity which you believe as you is reality. People who realize both are not reality, both have no base, they experience the true liberation. I call them as ‘Paramahamsas’ or people who live enlightenment.

Please understand. People who seek enlightenment, never live enlightenment. Seeking enlightenment is completely different from living enlightenment. Seeking enlightenment means continuously trying to chisel that, the mamakaar, the identity which you believe as you in the inner being, trying to develop it. I have seen people working on their personality for 30 years or 40 years, repeating some mantra, some technique or some method or some reading or some form of spiritual exercises or the self development techniques, some form.

(7:36)

You see, in the spiritual exercises there are 2 things. Portable knowledge, which gives you kind of a feel good feeling, which is used in the modern days in the training seminars and self development programs. Now 1000s of kinds of yoga, self development programs have come up. In US, yoga is a 6 billion dollar industry. I was surprised! 6 billion dollar industry in US! Yoga! ... because the portable knowledge can be easily packed and sold, the self development techniques.

There is another one, the second part - non-portable experience. Yoga is not just replacing anacin or metacin. The meditation is not just to replace your anti-depression medication. It has its own depth. It is much deeper than physical and mental well being. It has its depth. That depth only I call as ‘non-portable experience’.

See, the first group never bothers about spirituality, the materialistic group - people who believe only the ahankaar as reality. The second group who believe mamakaar as reality, they go on using, continuously, some methods, techniques. I call that as a ‘portable knowledge’. Of course, this gives you a feel good feeling. It really gives you a feel good feeling for 2 days, if you do some kind of kriya or pranayama or yoga and all these things. Wonderful, nothing wrong! It gives you a feel good feeling for few days. But I feel, the spirituality, the traditional knowledge, the research and development, which went on in this country for last 10000 years in the inner science, can contribute something more than feel good feeling to you.

Please understand. The...I am not against yoga or pranayam or all these things; these are all beautiful. But we have something much more which can contribute more to your Being, than a simple feel good feeling. At least last 10000 years in India, the research in the inner science went on. I can say, millions of inner scientists and at least 1 crore inner science laboratories. We have in India, more than 1 crore living ashrams and temples, where this science is continuously practiced by at least 1 billion people….. So this great technology, this great tradition, has something deeper, more sacred to offer to us. It has something more for us.

(10:52)

Understanding that ahankaar is illusion, is very easy; because it is something to do with the outer world... you have to struggle. The moment you need to struggle to show what you want to show, you realize or you have the time and experiences to contemplate, sit and contemplate, “I think, what I am trying to project is never going to be fulfilled or it is never going to become reality.” At some time, you will have the time or the experiences to contemplate, to look in. But if you start fighting with your mamakaar, if you start chiselling your mamakaar, start developing your mamakaar, there is nobody to tell you that you are caught same race, in the different direction.

Trying to develop the identity which you show to the outer world and trying to develop the identity which you believe as you, both are going to end in deep suffering; because both does not have base. Neither ahankaar nor mamakaar have a base. The moment you understand these 2 does not have any base, these 2 does not have hold over your inner space, suddenly you experience such a great freedom, the liberation or the restful awareness... what J. Krishnamurthy calls as “choiceless awareness”. That awareness is the real gift from our tradition, from our great Vedantic tradition. The research and development which went on in the inner science, I can say, this is the essence.

First thing, both identities which you carry, don’t have base, they are not real. Second thing, how to go beyond these two? Because, the moment you come out of your sleep and till the moment you fall into the dream state, continuously these two identities have a hold, have a say over you, have an influence over your Being. How to unclutch from them - this is the word again and again you will be using... the word ‘unclutch’. Just like a.. how you change the gears in the car… You see, before changing any gear, you’ll have to unclutch, you’ll have to disclutch. Whether it’s from first gear to second gear or second gear to third gear or any movement you will have to completely dis-clutch or unclutch from the movement. Same way, any state you fall, from waking state to dream state or dream state to deep sleep state, any state you move within your inner space, you will have to unclutch, you will have to come to that zero zone, you’ll have to come that neutral zone. You will have to come to that centre space. I can say that centre space which is continuously happening in you, without you involving.... if you can experience that centre space with your awareness, suddenly you will see what I am calling as ‘freedom’ as an experience. What I am saying as ‘freedom’, means free from these two identities... as an experience.

(14:48)

Maybe, this simple example can help. In north, I have seen in the forest, in North India, forest they hang a small stick to catch birds. Please bear with Me. Visualize this as a thread. Like this I have seen small sticks will be hanging in the forest. The hunters will put these sticks to trap the bird. You may think that “How bird will be caught by this small thing?” The birds will come and sit in one side, the moment it sits because of the weight it will become topsy turvy, upside down. And the moment the stick is upside down, the bird will be hanging. The poor bird does not understand, if he lets go, he can fly. He thinks, if he relaxes, he will fall and break his head. And he will be continuously hanging; maybe for 2-3 hours. The hunter will slowly come and catch the bird and put it in the cage and go.

Just like that bird, we also have the deep fear, the moment we let go ‘I’ and ‘Mine’, the ahankaar and mamakaar, we may become mentally imbalanced or we may not be able to run our day to day routine. This is the first fear. Continuously people ask Me, “Swamiji, you say relax from the identity, the two identities, the outer identity and the inner identity. You say relax from it. If we relax, how we will be able to manage our day to day routine? How we can think, how we can live our life?” There is no reference, there is no record, some bird relaxed and fell and broke its head. No! Just like that bird hanging, with the stick we hold on to our identity tightly continuously, because our identity is our security. That is our security; whether in the outer world or in the inner world, that is our boundary, that is our security.

A big problem is, for security reason only we hold on to the identity in the initial level, but slowly that boundary is practically like a boundary made for our bliss, our joy, our expression, our intense excitement. The boundary which we create as a security, that itself becomes a bondage or the prison for our joy, for our very Being. All that bird needs is little courage to let go. Maybe that 2-3 second, till that bird turns up and balances, it may have little chaos, it may have little difficulties. The courage to manage that 2-3 minutes, is what I call ‘tapas’. That is what is tapas. That is what is penance.

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All we need to know - the identity which we project to the outer world and the identity which we believe as us, both has no base. Second, trying to relax...you see, when you understand that both have no base, both have no direct use to your life, it does not directly contribute - you can play the game in a much better way, without these two identities. The whole game which you are playing now, the whole life, your whole day to day routine, can be handled, managed, lived, without these two identities coming into play or without these two identities being remembered in your inner space as you!

If this possibility is understood, I call that as a ‘right listening - shravana’, and if you are continuously contemplating and trying to live this freedom, I call that as a ‘manana’ - contemplation. If you are established in that freedom, that’s what we call ‘nididhyasana’- living enlightenment. Just these few truths, little strong, maybe the truths which I expressed is little strong or a straight truth. Maybe, when we analyze it with questions, you may be able to understand or catch the glimpse of what I am trying to express.

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