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+ | ==Title== | ||
+ | God can be Experienced, not Visualized || Atma Spurana || 25 March 2007 | ||
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+ | ==Link to Video: == | ||
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+ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jujGGmJeoao | ||
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+ | ==Transcript:== | ||
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+ | (0:15) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | What is the meaning of God? | ||
+ | Whatever you can visualize and what all you can't visualize is God. | ||
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+ | (0:25) | ||
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+ | Now it is time to work on Vijnanamaya kosha, do the process. Vijnanamaya kosha means knowledge, visualization. Now you are supposed to expand your visualization to that extent, to such extent, the vijnanamaya kosha relaxes completely. How to go about it? You have to visualize all the Cosmos. You have to go to the extreme where your visualization is completely tired or can't go further. It completely rests. If I tell you to visualize the planet earth and the moon and the sun, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize the whole Cosmos, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize beyond, beyond, beyond, what will you do? No, you can't visualize just... I will tell you, visualize beyond Me also. Then? | ||
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+ | (01:39) | ||
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+ | At some point, your visualization will become…. it won't be capable of functioning. It won't be able to travel. The Taittiriya Upanishad says where mind and words come back, unable to reach, that space has to be visualised. Actually we are working based on one upanishad- Taittiriya Upanishad. Many things are from that upanishad. Even the mantra is from that upanishad only…. Where your mind can't continue its logical process, where your inner space can't function.... See, your inner space is like a camera. It can capture anything. We should capture something which can’t be captured by your inner space. Then your vijnanamaya kosha, means the emotions or the recording of the emotions will have gap between your ego and itself. | ||
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+ | (03:13) | ||
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+ | Now whatever I try to explain, you guys will try to visualize…. Maybe, let’s work on it. Let’s work on visualizing which you can't visualize. | ||
+ | Yado Vaso Nivartante means the Aprapya Manasa Saha. | ||
+ | When mind and the visualization and the words come back without able to grasp, when they are not able to grasp and come back, that space to be meditated upon, that space has to be experienced for vijnanamaya kosha. Now be very clear, no sleep. No sleep. Actually, I am going to take you to the space either you will fall asleep or expand completely. Either you will fall asleep or expand. So now you should be very clear: no sleep. Sit in vajrasana. That is best thing. If you really have pain, you can sit on the chair. You don't have to sit in the vajrasana but no sleeping. On the chair you can't sleep. If you sleep you will fall. So no question of sleep. | ||
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+ | (05:06) | ||
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+ | See understand, see understand the truth behind this whole thing. Actually you cannot visualize enlightenment itself. Recently I saw that movie ‘Secret.’ These guys are telling that if you visualize anything you will achieve it. Enlightenment and all you can't visualize. You can't visualize Enlightenment and all. Enlightenment is supposed to happen. You can only visualize which can't be visualised means exhausting your vijnanamaya. Just using or taking the vijnanamaya to that extent where it can't do anything and completely liberates you and liberates itself. | ||
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+ | (06:00) | ||
+ | Please close your eyes and tie the ribbon. Just go with Me. I will guide you. It will be more powerful than the…. all the things which you did from yesterday. No visualization. Just be inside your body. Don't imagine anything. Just feel your body. Expand. Now start visualizing just few inches more than your body. Visualize you are just few inches bigger than your body…. Feel, visualize this whole hall…. Include this whole hall into yourself, into your being. Feel all the people are sitting inside you. This whole hall is inside you…. Now expand and include this whole city inside yourself. Include this whole city in your being. Let this city be inside your being…. Expand, include this whole country into yourself. Expand, let this whole country be included in you…. Expand, let this whole planet earth be included in you. Visualize, feel whole planet earth is inside you. Let the whole planet earth be included into you. Not just imagining, feel it, see it…. Let the whole planet earth be included. | ||
+ | (10:28) | ||
+ | Expand, let the moon and the whole solar system be included into your being. Expand and feel the whole solar system is inside you. Feel it. Fill it. Let you be filled by it. Let it be filled by you…. Continue to expand. Let this whole Cosmos be included into your being. Let this whole Cosmos be inside you…. Expand, let the whole Cosmos be included into you. Expand, continue to expand beyond your visualization, beyond your mind. Expand, expand, expand. Just see the whole universe, whole Cosmos. Let the whole cosmos be filled by you. Expand, continue to expand…. Expand, continue to expand. Let the whole Universe be filled by you. Let you be filled by it. | ||
+ | (14:29) | ||
+ | Meditation | ||
+ | (17:45) | ||
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+ | ==Transcript:== | ||
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+ | (0:16) | ||
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+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Is using marijuana only a delusion? Or can it have a positive, spiritual, mental, physical effect? | ||
+ | Swamiji: I think morning itself I answered. It has nothing to do with spirituality. Marijuana and intellect both are nothing to do with spirituality. Both will only waste your life. | ||
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+ | (0:51) | ||
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+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Since You are enlightened do You plan to be born again in this world? Of matter and.... | ||
+ | Swamiji: No, I decided I will not take one more birth. Enough but I am going to live quite a long time this time. I created the body to live for a long time but I am not going to come back once more. | ||
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+ | (01:15) | ||
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+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Since divorce need to be avoided, how about having just partners without getting married? | ||
+ | Swamiji: I have no problem. If it is... if both of you agree and your country agrees, who am I to disturb? It is up to you and if the country in which accepts legally… is it legal in this country? Okay, okay. So it is all up to you but vedic tradition we don't usually accept. We say that …why we say no divorce you know, just to tell you that again and again changing the outer man or woman is not going to help. Once try, when it does not workout, take Sanyas, that's all. So that is the reason in vedic tradition, they insist on no.... So... | ||
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+ | (02:23) | ||
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+ | So, some personal healing and personal question. Alright. We can spend little time maybe if you have any experience about the morning meditation. Two meditations we did. One is..... Two process, not even meditation, process like a living mriga sharira means the animal body and the pranamaya, just filing the pranamaya sharira. If you have any experience you can share or any question so that I can help you to go into the process further, tomorrow's process. | ||
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+ | (03:09) | ||
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+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Can a female become an enlightened master? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Why not? There are so many women enlightened. Maitreyi, Gargi and so many from time immemorial we have women enlightened masters. No doubt. | ||
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+ | (03:24) | ||
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+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: One time you said dreams are mind’s way of resolving and expressing some conflict within us. So when You come to us in our dreams, is this related? Is this our doubts expressing or is this not related to conflict? | ||
+ | Swamiji: If you see Me in your dream and if you are able to remember Me in multicolor, when next day morning when you get up, if you remember Me, you remember the dream full of four color, multi colors, colorful, then it is My Darshan. If you are not able to remember with color, just try to remember, are you able to.... Did you see the color of My cloth or just it is a black and white. If you have seen the color of My cloth, if it was colorful, then it is My vision… it is My Darshan. If it was not colorful, then it is not My Darshan, it is just a thought, it is just a dream. That is the scale. Any spiritual dream. Spiritual dream will be... will have a strong impact on your inner space. You will be able to recollect like a movie but ordinary dreams you will not be able to recollect like a movie. It will be just vague Indian Doordarshan…. Alright. If any of you want to share few words about your experience of the first meditation. Let us analyse few minutes on the first. Then we will send the mic. | ||
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+ | (05:00) | ||
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+ | Question: During the first meditation, You said to get intense and make sounds but I was never really into animals. So I was imagining being like a fish | ||
+ | Swamiji: That is no problem. Just let your ... If your body is alive that is enough. That is enough. Fishes don't make sound. I think we don't hear, that's all. I don't think they don't make sound. | ||
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+ | (05:27) | ||
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+ | Question: Swamiji, I had a vision of a couple of animals while doing the meditations. Does that mean that I have taken those bodies? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Yes sure, if it was a clear vision, if it was a vague or strong a clear vision, clear picture, literally clear picture, then surely it is a samskara. It means that those engrams are coming out. It is like your prarabdha is like a pandora box, pandora box. When you open, layer by layer it will come out. So you really opened. Good. Good job. If you had at least one violent experience that for few seconds you lost the idea that you are a man, then successful. You have done it. You have done it. See the purpose of this whole two day workshop, see, I have an idealistic goal, one thing and actual goal. There is another one thing. Idealistic goal is you getting enlightened but actual goal I know to what extent you will do. The technology itself is powerful enough to make you enlightened. But your capability to experience the technology, your capability to put yourself into it, with that I have a practical goal. At least complete rejuvenation and the engrams which you use in the day to day life, healing that. The engrams with which you suffer day to day life like a simple, basic diseases- Insomnia, tiredness or chronic fatigue, basic diseases, healing you out of that. The addictions and giving you the intense joy or the excitement. | ||
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+ | (07:18) | ||
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+ | See, the physical and mental healing is the practical goal. At least this will happen but the ideological goal is Enlightenment. So this is the idea behind the whole program. This opening, feeling at least for few minutes disconnected from the identity that you are a man, you allow at least the basic engrams which are constantly erupting in your life and attacking you which comes out the moment you lose your imbalance. Usually you lose your balance little in hunger or lust, during those moments. Those engrams will just come out first. Those layers will be healed. Even that will do so much of benefit. That will take care of you so much. That is the purpose. So even for two-three minutes, you did not remember at all that you have a human body, you have done it! We have done the meditation for quite a long time but at least two-three minutes if you have done, ok. | ||
+ | One by one. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (08:27) | ||
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+ | Question: So, conversely, when he actually saw figures of the animals, I guess what I had was.. | ||
+ | Swamiji: No guessing. No, no, no guessing. Straight clear cut. No question of talking this sophisticated corporate language. | ||
+ | Question: I had behavior of like wagging tail of a dog | ||
+ | Swamiji: Yes, means you opened it, okay. You see, this sophisticated way of talking sometime they come to Me and I ask them, “Hey, did you do that work?” “No, I didn't get a chance.” What do you mean by the word you didn't get a chance? Tell clearly you didn't do. Using the polished words. Tell clearly you are a lazy dash dash and did not do. No, let it be very straight and instead of that having some taka taka taka taka words and very politely roundabout. Talking straight you should learn from Vivekananda. If you read Vivekananda's lectures He will be very straight. No question of this roundabout and using polished words and all. Very nice. It will be very nice if you learn how to talk very straight. | ||
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+ | (09:54) | ||
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+ | Question: I had lots of feeling like an eagle and goats and all kinds of other animals. And a very intense experience experiencing the monkey and it was the only animal where I really experienced intense aggressiveness. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Means that your past when you took the jump. See, past means it need not be just your last birth will be monkey. No, last birth can be human being but the jump which you took, the last.... you might have taken three-four human births also. Now it may be fourth human birth but from the just before the human birth, monkey would have been the body you lived, you would have lived. | ||
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+ | (10:38) | ||
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+ | Question: Yes, so what happened was I got really aggressive so aggressive and I was like ok I am just going to let it go and then after that it was just finished. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Beautiful. You will see now again when you become angry or when you are possessed by lust, you will not have violence, you will not have that animal thing. You will have a grace. You will have grace. Actually in our ashram big problem is, these fellows don't respect even if I become angry. Even if I shout at them, they go behind and talk, “He looks very cute even when He shouts.” No, these guys talk very clearly behind. You see, you will not be able to have that violence. That will be lost from you. Even when you become angry, you will not have that monkey violence which was sitting all these days in you. Now it will disappear and one more thing, quickly you will be able to come back from anger. | ||
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+ | (11:49) | ||
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+ | See, if the monkey is sitting inside, if you become angry, to come back, to settle down, it will take two-three days. Now if that animal is not there, you will become angry. Next moment it will just disappear. You won't have that mriga sharira inside. Your annamaya kosha, your body is not just your body. It was having so many prints together. Now we are working to make that body as your body, that's all. Bringing the whole thing under you so that you will live completely inside the body. It will be very pleasant feeling if body is owned by you. | ||
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+ | (12:37) | ||
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+ | Question: Is it okay to do just some visualization about the sound and movement? Do you still get results? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Okay yes, yes, yes. Because for some people I said not to do physically. Those guys, yes okay because it is more working on the engrams only. | ||
+ | Question: Is it a practice to be done… | ||
+ | Swamiji: No no. No practice. It is just a process to be done here, that's all. But we will be working on the same in a deeper level by tomorrow. | ||
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+ | (13:15) | ||
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+ | Question: The animals that he ate in the past, will that... | ||
+ | Swamiji: No, no, no. no, no. Animals which you ate will not be there. You see, the suffering.... No, no, no, no, no. The suffering recorded in that animal’s body, that suffering will be there in your body. The animal samskara itself will not be there. Whenever a animal is killed, it leaves tremendous suffering. You see, you are not eating the beef or a cow which has died naturally. You are eating after killing. So it is naturally a premature death for that animal. It is being killed. So it leaves tremendous suffering and depression, feeling of unfulfillment in that flesh. So, when you swallow those things naturally those same feelings will be recorded in you but the quality of that animal will not be there…. And I have seen really vegetarian people are less prone to depression. | ||
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+ | (14:21) | ||
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+ | See, I Am not for vegetarian because no vegetarian company is sponsoring Me. I Am not sponsored by any vegetarian food producers or companies. From My experience I tell you, I have done enough of research in the human consciousness, worked with more than million disciples. So I can tell you, surely the vegetarian food helps you, even if you are not a spiritual seeker, even if you are not a person who is interested in spirituality. Even to live a normal life, vegetarian food does a big help. | ||
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+ | (15:04) | ||
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+ | Question: Swami, I just want to know, when we are doing an exercise that is powerful, what is Your part in that exercise? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Oh, My part! To open up. See, there are many hard nuts, to crack them. That is the first thing. Second thing, those karmas which is released, it has to disappear. Understand, and moreover those vacuum spaces which you are creating by releasing will be filled by My presence. Understand, it is a very esoteric presence, esoteric process. Usually when I explain these esoteric process, it seems like a I claim too many things. So better let Me not claim. Let the experience happen. Even the thing which I claimed today morning that I am enlightened I think few people are hurt. I saw one or two questions. “Why did You say? You could have allowed us to say.” Arey, you can't understand. Very clearly Krishna says in the Gita, “Unless I tell about Me you can't know. You will not know. Whatever you know about Me is less.” | ||
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+ | (16:08) | ||
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+ | If you attend two-three programs, you will understand, every program your understanding about Me is developing, expanding. The first level program, second level program, just try to attend two-three programs. You will understand, your understanding about Me expands. Krishna says very clearly, “Unless I tell about Me, you can't know. You will not know.” So there is no other way. I have to tell some time. Even if it hurts it is okay. It's a very esoteric process, Ma. See, now as on… before the meditation, you had the animal parts inside you, those engrams and vasanas. Now that will come out and the possibility of having an enlightened body will be recorded so that the moment you decide for the next body, when you have the choice to decide the next body, design the next body, you will design to be an enlightened master. You will ask for the best model. All the model which you saw, get the best model. Hey, Ha, this is right ok, let’s go ahead. | ||
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+ | (17:12) | ||
+ | Question: Speaking on the food, how about plants? We kill plants to eat. | ||
+ | Swamiji: See, I saw those… consciously I tried to scan and plants does not have so much of consciousness to suffer, to have experience pain but these guys experience pain, these animals. That is the thing. | ||
+ | (17:33) | ||
+ | Question: Same with eggs too or… | ||
+ | Swamiji: Eggs also there is life. The possibility of life is there. With milk there is no possibility. People ask Me, “Swamiji, when milk comes from cow, egg comes from hen, why milk is vegetarian and egg is not vegetarian?” “If you sit on egg you want.... If you sit on milk you won’t get calf but if you sit on egg, you will get chicken.” And somebody may ask, “No, no, no, poultry egg?” Poultry egg may not have the male part but the feminine part of life is there. You understand, the possibility the feminine part, female part is there. So, the moment the possibility for life is there it becomes non-veg. | ||
+ | (18:22) | ||
+ | Question: Swamiji, I tried really hard to get angry in my meditation but I could not and I don't know if I was doing something wrong. | ||
+ | Swamiji: I think you are not doing anything wrong. You are not able to open up means that you are not able to get rid of this strong identity. All right, at least next, next layers, decide that you are going to break. Even if it is like a acting in the initial level it is okay. For few minutes act, then you will see suddenly things open up. | ||
+ | (19:01) | ||
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+ | ==Transcript:== | ||
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+ | (0:14) | ||
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+ | Swamiji: Next? | ||
+ | Question: I am not sure of the animal I was in. I thought I did get the monkey and what I got was a very strong sense of being a wounded animal. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Hmmm, it is good. Actually Ma, sometime you will feel an animal which is handicapped or which is not able to do. So even those karmas are good. Just work with this means the… you would have left the body because of some accident. You understand what I am saying? You would have died in that animal body because of some accident or suffering. You are able to understand what I am saying? | ||
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+ | (0:58) | ||
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+ | Question: Yes, but I don't even know what animal it was. | ||
+ | Swamiji: That is okay, no problem. Just the lump of pain, just the feeling of suffering? Hmmm? Okay. | ||
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+ | (01:09) | ||
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+ | Question: Swamiji, I was getting so worried I see a lot of animals. All these animals- a lion, tiger, cat, everything. | ||
+ | Swamiji: It is good. No, actually you are opening too many layers at a time immediately. It is good actually. See, you already did Nityanandam na? So lot of… your layers are very porous. It can be just opened easily. That is the reason you opened up so many things. Good. One more thing, somebody came and told Me that, “Swamiji, I felt I need more space. I wanted to drive away all the other animals.” One person was coming and telling Me. No, that is the way real animals feel. See, you can't make animals sit so close. No, you can't. No animal will sit so close continuously and all. They need their space. So it is good, means you are really get into that space. | ||
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+ | (02:13) | ||
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+ | Question: I want to ask about the wounded animal. During the meditation this morning I saw many many animals but I had three that kept repeating themselves. | ||
+ | Swamiji: That three are…you must be having major samskaras from that three bodies. | ||
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+ | (02:30) | ||
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+ | Question: And two of them were wounded and the last time before You stopped, I felt myself licking my wounds. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Beautiful. See, actually the animal... the animals heal like that only. They heal themself by licking only. So it means that you really got into that body. Beautiful. Nice. Ma, that…somebody asked what is My role being here? This all is My role means really pushing them, putting the whole logic to a silence and giving a strong instruction: let the whole group fall into that experience. That is the role of the Master. See, morning one hour I was talking. The introduction if you see, the whole introduction is about putting the ego, the logic down so that, that space to trust is created. More and more people can enter into that experience. Master is a possibility. He is a promise to open the door for more and more people. | ||
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+ | (03:38) | ||
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+ | Question: Swamiji, in this morning session I had the question that is there any relation between the nature of this birth and the animal nature? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Yes, yes, yes. There is a strong connection. Even though you take a human body, you are not completely human being till you work out those samskaras, those karmas. | ||
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+ | (04:06) | ||
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+ | Question: I have so many times, I feel like I was a cow. So is it conscious or is it possible? | ||
+ | Swamiji: It is possibility. It is a truth, not just a mind. One more thing, before the Gayatri, Gayatri initiation, the vedic tradition.... In the vedic tradition, Gayatri initiation is the first step towards spirituality. Before the Gayatri initiation, you will be made to do this Mriga Sharira Vasa continuously for 30-40 days in those days usually, but nowadays only three minutes you are supposed to do. In three minute what will you do? And it became like a ritual. That’s where the problem and in some initiation, they don't even tell that Mantra. The Mriga sharira vasa is not even done. That is where the ‘Yogo nasta parantapaha’- In course of time, the truth is lost. | ||
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+ | (05:12) | ||
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+ | Actually if you make these things kids to do, they will have sharper and clear experience because they have not… still they are not conditioned. In India, in our Gurukul and in our Little Anandas program, we have a program called Little Anandas. Fifteen days workshop, intense workshop. Now we made it as a twenty one days workshop for the kids who are below fourteen years, below fourteen. In India, usually the kids get physically measured by fourteen. So before that itself we wanted them to go through this process so that they will be out of everything. By the time they physically get matured, they will be human beings. | ||
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+ | (05:54) | ||
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+ | See, if the physical maturity happens as a human being, you will not fall too low and you will not be too much lust centered. You see, only animal, only animal which is lust centered throughout the year and twenty four hours the day is human being. See reality. No other animal is filled with lust throughout the year and twenty four hours. Just a small suggestion is enough, the human being is ready but no other animal... because when you live with nature, there is a period, there is a time, there is a mood, there is a mind’s ups and low… body’s ups and lows. Because the mind has interfered in our system, the body getting ready or all those things are just immaterial. Moment mind is ready, body has to be ready. That is the reason that we need to workout those animal engrams before the physical maturity. Then you will be more human being, not the human being as we are now. | ||
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+ | (07:13) | ||
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+ | As on now, we are not human beings. Maybe living In the human body but not human beings. Just the mind is living. That is why you are twenty four hours ready. You are not natural. Animals are sometime much better. So if you remove those animal engrams, you will not be just lower than animal. Now you are lower than the animal. It will be above, it will be beyond the animal existence. In those days, before they give the Gayatri, you see the… during the Gayatri they will tie a rope in the hip and give a Kaupeen, means the loin cloth. Before that itself they will make you go through all this mriga sharira vasa so that you will live a human existence by the time you are physically mature. You will be more graceful, more feeling fulfilled. | ||
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+ | (08:14) | ||
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+ | Question: In one of my animals I was a vulture and I was eating something and somebody came close and I had to really fight to not flap that person. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Hmm, hmm, I understand. | ||
+ | Question: And after that I stood up like a man. And the next thing I was another animal again. | ||
+ | Swamiji: That is beautiful means that you are done, Ma. You have moved, you understand? You have moved. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (08:52) | ||
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+ | Question: Swamiji, I was so afraid to be there with my eyes closed. I don't know the reality. I felt like never before. And I don’t want to be anymore. I was so scared. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Just go with that fear. | ||
+ | Question: I chanted the mantra | ||
+ | Swamiji: No Mantra will help to get rid of the fear. Only facing the fear will work. Okay, I understand. It is good, okay. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (09:28) | ||
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+ | Question: In the process is it okay to interact with other noises? | ||
+ | Swamiji: You can interact with the other noises as long as you don't disturb the other person. Actually some animal will get irritated with the… when somebody else is shouting. Here I saw four-five guys shouting but they did not touch each other. So then I said okay, because it is your territory. Somebody enters your territory, you can't tolerate. In the Ashram also we have some animals. We don't tie them or keep like a pet how these countries they do. We don't tie them. They are just running around but even though they are free, they have their own territories. One guy will not enter into the other side and the other guy cannot come into this side. | ||
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+ | (10:16) | ||
+ | And till I leave this territory, only this dog will follow Me, and after I leave this compound, this fellow will stop and that guy will come and start. Then only he will leave and he will not cross that gate. If he crosses, the fight will start. And that guy can't come inside to escort Me. If that guy comes inside, the fight will start. These two will be standing and this guy knows to what extent he can escort Me and he will stop. Then the next guy has to come and pick up. And if that guy doesn't come also, this guy will not cross the boundary. | ||
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+ | Anyhow, the space. Alright. Now it is time that we end the session. Tomorrow morning we will start the process. We may spend little more time on discussing about the Pranamaya Sharira or the experiences during Pranamaya tomorrow. The essence of all these things, your experience is, go little more deeply into the meditation, next next process, that's all. If you experience something, beautiful, go into the process now. And it is not that, you will be stopping with this. This is just a good start, good beginning. Now you are supposed to be entering into the deeper level, the deeper process. | ||
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+ | Maybe before going and sleeping, you just jump for five minutes. You will really be alive and you will not be tired tomorrow morning. If you go and sleep like this mood, you will be tired tomorrow morning. I always tell people, even in your house, before sleeping, just play some song and jump for five-ten minutes. Dance wildly, not mildly Ooooooo, Oooooo. Not that kind of dance and not even moving the body and just wildly, let your whole body be active. Jump, then if you sleep, you will be fresh next day morning because the second layer energy will be alive, active. Now the first layer energy is over, done. If you jump, second layer energy will become active. Go and sleep. Tomorrow morning you will be fresh. | ||
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+ | Understand, this is not like NSP. If you have done NSP, don't think it will be like NSP. No, in NSP, we work on only the engrams which is recorded in those layers like, we wipe the paintings. You are healed from engrams and it is like a little lubrication. You will go back and live in the society as a much better person but now we are going to work on the very Kosha means the very layer, very canvas on which the painting engrams are carved. So it is like a, you will not be the same person again. You are not the same person now itself, from morning to now. You are not the same. How can you be same? Now lot of gender change has happened, job career change, professional change and still husband- wives are sitting next. | ||
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+ | Now let us start the process. Annamaya kosha, first layer means the physical layer with which you are living - the bone, flesh, structure. See, this is made out of samskaras which you bring from so many janmas, so many births. People ask Me, “Swamiji, do You believe in reincarnation, many births?” I tell them, “No, I don't believe but I know the truth. It is there.” It’s not belief, simply it is truth. You are reborn till you are enlightened. Till you achieve Enlightenment you take birth. Rarely after Enlightenment, people take conscious birth. It is called Avatara, incarnation. All unconscious birth is regular birth and death. Rarely some people after Enlightenment take birth. It is called incarnation or avatara. Anyhow, now all you need to understand, whether you believe it or not, truth is that we do have rebirth and we bring our karmas, samskaras unfulfilled, understand, unfulfilled samskaras when we take this new body. | ||
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+ | Usually when you take a big jump means the.... when you shift the bodies in which you live like a, from fish to tortoise, from tortoise you jump to the pig. That is the way the Incarnations are described traditionally, the Vishnu’s Incarnations, Avataras. First fish. See, when you live in the fish body, whatever you see and whatever you hear gets recorded. Now you know about more possibility, more samskaras like when fish sees a animal which is staying in the water and in the land- tortoise and it decides, “Let me take up this kind of a body next time.” And when it leaves the old body, now it has got all samskaras, the higher possibilities are recorded in it. So it decides to create a tortoise body for itself. Now it sees a much better animal on the land. Of course, even though it may see human beings, it can't take such big jump. Whatever samskaras it collected during the tortoise body, it gathers the whole thing and when it have wants to have a next body, it decides much better choice. | ||
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+ | That is why, we always tell, even seeing an Enlightened Master is a blessing because next time when you design your body, you will decide to be that kind of a being. The possibility is already known to you. In six billion people, how many you think knows the possibility of enlightenment, the higher level of being, higher kind of existence is possible? That is why we say in Vedic tradition, Darshana, seeing itself is a great thing because in your.... you see, whatever you see, hear, enjoy, even if you are not completely aware, it will get recorded in you. That is why you can be hypnotized and information can come out. You see, even if you have not observed, when you travel in a road, the information will be recorded inside. You can be hypnotized and you will tell that information. Information can be taken out of you. | ||
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+ | So when you live in a tortoise body, you receive so much of information. You see, hear, receive so much of Information and samskaras about a better body. Then you next choice, you take a better body. That is the way you take a jump. Next, next, next, next, next. That is the way you change your bodies. Now when you take the human body, human sharira, manushya sharira, the last jump which you took, the last animal, that engrams, samskaras also you bring. You bring animal samskaras which you did not fulfill when you were in the animal body, when you were in the manushya sharira. You come with those samskaras also. One more thing, now when you give life to those samskaras, the energy which is connected to those samskaras will be given to you. Two thing: all samskaras, engram will have certain power, energy, certain energy and certain love or hatred. | ||
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+ | You see, let Me describe the engram very clearly so that you will understand what I am saying. Some engram to have cup of coffee in the morning. Morning you will have that energy to get up, go to the kitchen, pick up the coffee and drink and the picture of coffee, the experience of coffee- this both together is called samskara. Now we are trying to remove that picture and just give the energy to you. If you remove the samskara completely, you will lose energy and picture both but when you work on Annamaya kosha, samskaras’ energy will be there and the picture will disappear. Vasanas will be removed but the Shakti, the power of the samskara will stay with you. Vasana means the object; Shakti is power of samskara. Removing Vasana but not the power of the samskara, it is called self actualization. | ||
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+ | Understand, self realization can be achieved in two way. Completely removing the samskara and energy, everything. You will have self realization. Path of renunciation. You can realize yourself by actualizing yourself also. That means having the energy removing the Vasana. Now by working on Anandamaya kosha itself, you will be having the shakti but not the vasana. You bring so much of samskaras from the different animal births. It is a very powerful method, process to re-live and get all the things out, get everything out of your being. Usually only in a very close, intimate atmosphere like teacher training and all only I give this meditation technique. It is a very powerful technique. I can't even call this technique. Again process, again and again I want to remind you guys. It is a process because technique means you can go and practice. You can't practice this. No, you can't do this in the house. It is a process. It doesn't work without Master’s presence, direct presence. | ||
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+ | You go from a different bodies. You just travel from different levels to higher and higher levels like a fish to tortoise and tortoise to pig, pig to Narasimha. Narasimha means half man and half animal and from there to Vamana, pygmy man, man but short, pygmy guy. Then goes to Rama, then Krishna, growing system. When you are in the human body, if you are fortunate enough to see a Living Master, Enlightened Master and live around him, your unconscious will record, “O God! the better possibility to exist is there, better possibility to live is true.” And this, when you are supposed to take the next body will be used as an information, data. You will create an enlightened body. That is why we say that even seeing, darshana, is such a great blessing, such a great thing. | ||
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+ | Now we will work on the annamaya kosha. How? Just start living all the animal engrams so that your annamaya kosha will become completely self actualized. All the samskara which you brought with your body, with your annamaya kosha becomes reality. Understand, you have got so many samskaras from animal layer. Because you never allowed them to become reality, it expresses in your everyday life. You can see when you eat, you can see when you are angry, the animals expressing through you and you can see when you are filled with lust, the animals expressing through you. Understand, sometime even you will feel frightened, ‘What am I doing? What is going on?’ Till you allow the animal inside you to be completely fulfilled and relaxed, you can't escape from it because you are carrying those engrams, you are carrying those samskaras. It should be allowed to come out. It should be allowed to actualize itself. | ||
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+ | See, these engrams are so powerful, this is called prarabdha karma. This prarabdha karma is so powerful, if you allow them to work through you, they will empower you. If you suppress them, they will constantly depress you. You will be fighting with them. Whatever quality you are fighting with you, whatever way you are fighting with you… see, if you are fighting to control your anger, if you are fighting to stop smoking, if you are fighting to stop drinking, everything is directly connected to this annamaya kosha, animal layer. The samskaras which you brought from the animal level, animal layer. That is the... even for any addiction or anything, if you are fighting with yourself, responsibility is this annamaya kosha. Whatever may be the reason for your fight with you, the responsibility is the samskaras which you bring from the animal body. | ||
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Title:
Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master || Part 1 || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention: Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master Part 1
Session on: Atma Spurana
Date: 24 March 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, CA, US
In this video Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam explains to the delegates about the importance of why it is important to drop our identities and then come as a open book to receive knowledge from an Enlightened being. HDH takes them into a deeper understanding of how holding on to our identities only lets us live a life of comparison and competition. Humanity needs to realize that in an effort to identify our ourselves with the outer world and family conditioning we are drifting away from the path of enlightenment. This is why it is important to make most of the opportunity when an enlightened master comes in our lives.
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Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master || Part 2 || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
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Name Of The Convention: Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master Part 2
Session on: Atma Spurana
Date: 24 March 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, CA, US
In this video Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam explains to the delegates about the importance of why it is important to drop our identities and then come as a open book to receive knowledge from an Enlightened being. HDH takes them into a deeper understanding of how holding on to our identities only lets us live a life of comparison and competition. Humanity needs to realize that in an effort to identify our ourselves with the outer world and family conditioning we are drifting away from the path of enlightenment. This is why it is important to make most of the opportunity when an enlightened master comes in our lives.
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Title:
Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master || Part 3 || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention: Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master Part 3
Session on: Atma Spurana
Date: 24 March 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, CA, USA
In this video Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam explains to the delegates about the importance of why it is important to drop our identities and then come as a open book to receive knowledge from an Enlightened being. HDH takes them into a deeper understanding of how holding on to our identities only lets us live a life of comparison and competition. Humanity needs to realize that in an effort to identify our ourselves with the outer world and family conditioning we are drifting away from the path of enlightenment. This is why it is important to make most of the opportunity when an enlightened master comes in our lives.
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God can be Experienced, not Visualized || Atma Spurana || 25 March 2007
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(0:15)
(Swamiji reads a question) What is the meaning of God? Whatever you can visualize and what all you can't visualize is God.
(0:25)
Now it is time to work on Vijnanamaya kosha, do the process. Vijnanamaya kosha means knowledge, visualization. Now you are supposed to expand your visualization to that extent, to such extent, the vijnanamaya kosha relaxes completely. How to go about it? You have to visualize all the Cosmos. You have to go to the extreme where your visualization is completely tired or can't go further. It completely rests. If I tell you to visualize the planet earth and the moon and the sun, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize the whole Cosmos, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize beyond, beyond, beyond, what will you do? No, you can't visualize just... I will tell you, visualize beyond Me also. Then?
(01:39)
At some point, your visualization will become…. it won't be capable of functioning. It won't be able to travel. The Taittiriya Upanishad says where mind and words come back, unable to reach, that space has to be visualised. Actually we are working based on one upanishad- Taittiriya Upanishad. Many things are from that upanishad. Even the mantra is from that upanishad only…. Where your mind can't continue its logical process, where your inner space can't function.... See, your inner space is like a camera. It can capture anything. We should capture something which can’t be captured by your inner space. Then your vijnanamaya kosha, means the emotions or the recording of the emotions will have gap between your ego and itself.
(03:13)
Now whatever I try to explain, you guys will try to visualize…. Maybe, let’s work on it. Let’s work on visualizing which you can't visualize. Yado Vaso Nivartante means the Aprapya Manasa Saha. When mind and the visualization and the words come back without able to grasp, when they are not able to grasp and come back, that space to be meditated upon, that space has to be experienced for vijnanamaya kosha. Now be very clear, no sleep. No sleep. Actually, I am going to take you to the space either you will fall asleep or expand completely. Either you will fall asleep or expand. So now you should be very clear: no sleep. Sit in vajrasana. That is best thing. If you really have pain, you can sit on the chair. You don't have to sit in the vajrasana but no sleeping. On the chair you can't sleep. If you sleep you will fall. So no question of sleep.
(05:06)
See understand, see understand the truth behind this whole thing. Actually you cannot visualize enlightenment itself. Recently I saw that movie ‘Secret.’ These guys are telling that if you visualize anything you will achieve it. Enlightenment and all you can't visualize. You can't visualize Enlightenment and all. Enlightenment is supposed to happen. You can only visualize which can't be visualised means exhausting your vijnanamaya. Just using or taking the vijnanamaya to that extent where it can't do anything and completely liberates you and liberates itself.
(06:00)
Please close your eyes and tie the ribbon. Just go with Me. I will guide you. It will be more powerful than the…. all the things which you did from yesterday. No visualization. Just be inside your body. Don't imagine anything. Just feel your body. Expand. Now start visualizing just few inches more than your body. Visualize you are just few inches bigger than your body…. Feel, visualize this whole hall…. Include this whole hall into yourself, into your being. Feel all the people are sitting inside you. This whole hall is inside you…. Now expand and include this whole city inside yourself. Include this whole city in your being. Let this city be inside your being…. Expand, include this whole country into yourself. Expand, let this whole country be included in you…. Expand, let this whole planet earth be included in you. Visualize, feel whole planet earth is inside you. Let the whole planet earth be included into you. Not just imagining, feel it, see it…. Let the whole planet earth be included.
(10:28)
Expand, let the moon and the whole solar system be included into your being. Expand and feel the whole solar system is inside you. Feel it. Fill it. Let you be filled by it. Let it be filled by you…. Continue to expand. Let this whole Cosmos be included into your being. Let this whole Cosmos be inside you…. Expand, let the whole Cosmos be included into you. Expand, continue to expand beyond your visualization, beyond your mind. Expand, expand, expand. Just see the whole universe, whole Cosmos. Let the whole cosmos be filled by you. Expand, continue to expand…. Expand, continue to expand. Let the whole Universe be filled by you. Let you be filled by it.
(14:29)
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Title:
Owning Your Body || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention : Atma Spurana
Session on: Owning Your Body
Date : 24 March 2007
Venue : Los Angeles, CA, USA
In this video, the Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam answers some questions from the delegates of the Atma Spurana convention, in Los Angeles. His Divine Holiness shares the Vedic views on divorce, the truth about vegetarianism, and explains the difference between visions and darshans in the dream state. We also hear the experiences of the delegates after completing an intense meditation.
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(0:16)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Is using marijuana only a delusion? Or can it have a positive, spiritual, mental, physical effect? Swamiji: I think morning itself I answered. It has nothing to do with spirituality. Marijuana and intellect both are nothing to do with spirituality. Both will only waste your life.
(0:51)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Since You are enlightened do You plan to be born again in this world? Of matter and.... Swamiji: No, I decided I will not take one more birth. Enough but I am going to live quite a long time this time. I created the body to live for a long time but I am not going to come back once more.
(01:15)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Since divorce need to be avoided, how about having just partners without getting married? Swamiji: I have no problem. If it is... if both of you agree and your country agrees, who am I to disturb? It is up to you and if the country in which accepts legally… is it legal in this country? Okay, okay. So it is all up to you but vedic tradition we don't usually accept. We say that …why we say no divorce you know, just to tell you that again and again changing the outer man or woman is not going to help. Once try, when it does not workout, take Sanyas, that's all. So that is the reason in vedic tradition, they insist on no.... So...
(02:23)
So, some personal healing and personal question. Alright. We can spend little time maybe if you have any experience about the morning meditation. Two meditations we did. One is..... Two process, not even meditation, process like a living mriga sharira means the animal body and the pranamaya, just filing the pranamaya sharira. If you have any experience you can share or any question so that I can help you to go into the process further, tomorrow's process.
(03:09)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Can a female become an enlightened master? Swamiji: Why not? There are so many women enlightened. Maitreyi, Gargi and so many from time immemorial we have women enlightened masters. No doubt.
(03:24)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: One time you said dreams are mind’s way of resolving and expressing some conflict within us. So when You come to us in our dreams, is this related? Is this our doubts expressing or is this not related to conflict? Swamiji: If you see Me in your dream and if you are able to remember Me in multicolor, when next day morning when you get up, if you remember Me, you remember the dream full of four color, multi colors, colorful, then it is My Darshan. If you are not able to remember with color, just try to remember, are you able to.... Did you see the color of My cloth or just it is a black and white. If you have seen the color of My cloth, if it was colorful, then it is My vision… it is My Darshan. If it was not colorful, then it is not My Darshan, it is just a thought, it is just a dream. That is the scale. Any spiritual dream. Spiritual dream will be... will have a strong impact on your inner space. You will be able to recollect like a movie but ordinary dreams you will not be able to recollect like a movie. It will be just vague Indian Doordarshan…. Alright. If any of you want to share few words about your experience of the first meditation. Let us analyse few minutes on the first. Then we will send the mic.
(05:00)
Question: During the first meditation, You said to get intense and make sounds but I was never really into animals. So I was imagining being like a fish Swamiji: That is no problem. Just let your ... If your body is alive that is enough. That is enough. Fishes don't make sound. I think we don't hear, that's all. I don't think they don't make sound.
(05:27)
Question: Swamiji, I had a vision of a couple of animals while doing the meditations. Does that mean that I have taken those bodies? Swamiji: Yes sure, if it was a clear vision, if it was a vague or strong a clear vision, clear picture, literally clear picture, then surely it is a samskara. It means that those engrams are coming out. It is like your prarabdha is like a pandora box, pandora box. When you open, layer by layer it will come out. So you really opened. Good. Good job. If you had at least one violent experience that for few seconds you lost the idea that you are a man, then successful. You have done it. You have done it. See the purpose of this whole two day workshop, see, I have an idealistic goal, one thing and actual goal. There is another one thing. Idealistic goal is you getting enlightened but actual goal I know to what extent you will do. The technology itself is powerful enough to make you enlightened. But your capability to experience the technology, your capability to put yourself into it, with that I have a practical goal. At least complete rejuvenation and the engrams which you use in the day to day life, healing that. The engrams with which you suffer day to day life like a simple, basic diseases- Insomnia, tiredness or chronic fatigue, basic diseases, healing you out of that. The addictions and giving you the intense joy or the excitement.
(07:18)
See, the physical and mental healing is the practical goal. At least this will happen but the ideological goal is Enlightenment. So this is the idea behind the whole program. This opening, feeling at least for few minutes disconnected from the identity that you are a man, you allow at least the basic engrams which are constantly erupting in your life and attacking you which comes out the moment you lose your imbalance. Usually you lose your balance little in hunger or lust, during those moments. Those engrams will just come out first. Those layers will be healed. Even that will do so much of benefit. That will take care of you so much. That is the purpose. So even for two-three minutes, you did not remember at all that you have a human body, you have done it! We have done the meditation for quite a long time but at least two-three minutes if you have done, ok. One by one.
(08:27)
Question: So, conversely, when he actually saw figures of the animals, I guess what I had was.. Swamiji: No guessing. No, no, no guessing. Straight clear cut. No question of talking this sophisticated corporate language. Question: I had behavior of like wagging tail of a dog Swamiji: Yes, means you opened it, okay. You see, this sophisticated way of talking sometime they come to Me and I ask them, “Hey, did you do that work?” “No, I didn't get a chance.” What do you mean by the word you didn't get a chance? Tell clearly you didn't do. Using the polished words. Tell clearly you are a lazy dash dash and did not do. No, let it be very straight and instead of that having some taka taka taka taka words and very politely roundabout. Talking straight you should learn from Vivekananda. If you read Vivekananda's lectures He will be very straight. No question of this roundabout and using polished words and all. Very nice. It will be very nice if you learn how to talk very straight.
(09:54)
Question: I had lots of feeling like an eagle and goats and all kinds of other animals. And a very intense experience experiencing the monkey and it was the only animal where I really experienced intense aggressiveness. Swamiji: Means that your past when you took the jump. See, past means it need not be just your last birth will be monkey. No, last birth can be human being but the jump which you took, the last.... you might have taken three-four human births also. Now it may be fourth human birth but from the just before the human birth, monkey would have been the body you lived, you would have lived.
(10:38)
Question: Yes, so what happened was I got really aggressive so aggressive and I was like ok I am just going to let it go and then after that it was just finished. Swamiji: Beautiful. You will see now again when you become angry or when you are possessed by lust, you will not have violence, you will not have that animal thing. You will have a grace. You will have grace. Actually in our ashram big problem is, these fellows don't respect even if I become angry. Even if I shout at them, they go behind and talk, “He looks very cute even when He shouts.” No, these guys talk very clearly behind. You see, you will not be able to have that violence. That will be lost from you. Even when you become angry, you will not have that monkey violence which was sitting all these days in you. Now it will disappear and one more thing, quickly you will be able to come back from anger.
(11:49)
See, if the monkey is sitting inside, if you become angry, to come back, to settle down, it will take two-three days. Now if that animal is not there, you will become angry. Next moment it will just disappear. You won't have that mriga sharira inside. Your annamaya kosha, your body is not just your body. It was having so many prints together. Now we are working to make that body as your body, that's all. Bringing the whole thing under you so that you will live completely inside the body. It will be very pleasant feeling if body is owned by you.
(12:37)
Question: Is it okay to do just some visualization about the sound and movement? Do you still get results? Swamiji: Okay yes, yes, yes. Because for some people I said not to do physically. Those guys, yes okay because it is more working on the engrams only. Question: Is it a practice to be done… Swamiji: No no. No practice. It is just a process to be done here, that's all. But we will be working on the same in a deeper level by tomorrow.
(13:15)
Question: The animals that he ate in the past, will that... Swamiji: No, no, no. no, no. Animals which you ate will not be there. You see, the suffering.... No, no, no, no, no. The suffering recorded in that animal’s body, that suffering will be there in your body. The animal samskara itself will not be there. Whenever a animal is killed, it leaves tremendous suffering. You see, you are not eating the beef or a cow which has died naturally. You are eating after killing. So it is naturally a premature death for that animal. It is being killed. So it leaves tremendous suffering and depression, feeling of unfulfillment in that flesh. So, when you swallow those things naturally those same feelings will be recorded in you but the quality of that animal will not be there…. And I have seen really vegetarian people are less prone to depression.
(14:21)
See, I Am not for vegetarian because no vegetarian company is sponsoring Me. I Am not sponsored by any vegetarian food producers or companies. From My experience I tell you, I have done enough of research in the human consciousness, worked with more than million disciples. So I can tell you, surely the vegetarian food helps you, even if you are not a spiritual seeker, even if you are not a person who is interested in spirituality. Even to live a normal life, vegetarian food does a big help.
(15:04)
Question: Swami, I just want to know, when we are doing an exercise that is powerful, what is Your part in that exercise? Swamiji: Oh, My part! To open up. See, there are many hard nuts, to crack them. That is the first thing. Second thing, those karmas which is released, it has to disappear. Understand, and moreover those vacuum spaces which you are creating by releasing will be filled by My presence. Understand, it is a very esoteric presence, esoteric process. Usually when I explain these esoteric process, it seems like a I claim too many things. So better let Me not claim. Let the experience happen. Even the thing which I claimed today morning that I am enlightened I think few people are hurt. I saw one or two questions. “Why did You say? You could have allowed us to say.” Arey, you can't understand. Very clearly Krishna says in the Gita, “Unless I tell about Me you can't know. You will not know. Whatever you know about Me is less.”
(16:08)
If you attend two-three programs, you will understand, every program your understanding about Me is developing, expanding. The first level program, second level program, just try to attend two-three programs. You will understand, your understanding about Me expands. Krishna says very clearly, “Unless I tell about Me, you can't know. You will not know.” So there is no other way. I have to tell some time. Even if it hurts it is okay. It's a very esoteric process, Ma. See, now as on… before the meditation, you had the animal parts inside you, those engrams and vasanas. Now that will come out and the possibility of having an enlightened body will be recorded so that the moment you decide for the next body, when you have the choice to decide the next body, design the next body, you will design to be an enlightened master. You will ask for the best model. All the model which you saw, get the best model. Hey, Ha, this is right ok, let’s go ahead.
(17:12)
Question: Speaking on the food, how about plants? We kill plants to eat. Swamiji: See, I saw those… consciously I tried to scan and plants does not have so much of consciousness to suffer, to have experience pain but these guys experience pain, these animals. That is the thing.
(17:33)
Question: Same with eggs too or… Swamiji: Eggs also there is life. The possibility of life is there. With milk there is no possibility. People ask Me, “Swamiji, when milk comes from cow, egg comes from hen, why milk is vegetarian and egg is not vegetarian?” “If you sit on egg you want.... If you sit on milk you won’t get calf but if you sit on egg, you will get chicken.” And somebody may ask, “No, no, no, poultry egg?” Poultry egg may not have the male part but the feminine part of life is there. You understand, the possibility the feminine part, female part is there. So, the moment the possibility for life is there it becomes non-veg.
(18:22)
Question: Swamiji, I tried really hard to get angry in my meditation but I could not and I don't know if I was doing something wrong. Swamiji: I think you are not doing anything wrong. You are not able to open up means that you are not able to get rid of this strong identity. All right, at least next, next layers, decide that you are going to break. Even if it is like a acting in the initial level it is okay. For few minutes act, then you will see suddenly things open up.
(19:01)
Title:
Put Your Logic Down! || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention : Atma Spurana
Session on: Put Your Logic Down!
Date : 24 March 2007
Venue : Los Angeles, CA, USA
In this video, the Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam answers some questions from the delegates of the Atma Spurana convention, in Los Angeles. His Divine Holiness shares his thoughts as the delegates share their experiences after completing an intense meditation.
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(0:14)
Swamiji: Next? Question: I am not sure of the animal I was in. I thought I did get the monkey and what I got was a very strong sense of being a wounded animal. Swamiji: Hmmm, it is good. Actually Ma, sometime you will feel an animal which is handicapped or which is not able to do. So even those karmas are good. Just work with this means the… you would have left the body because of some accident. You understand what I am saying? You would have died in that animal body because of some accident or suffering. You are able to understand what I am saying?
(0:58)
Question: Yes, but I don't even know what animal it was. Swamiji: That is okay, no problem. Just the lump of pain, just the feeling of suffering? Hmmm? Okay.
(01:09)
Question: Swamiji, I was getting so worried I see a lot of animals. All these animals- a lion, tiger, cat, everything. Swamiji: It is good. No, actually you are opening too many layers at a time immediately. It is good actually. See, you already did Nityanandam na? So lot of… your layers are very porous. It can be just opened easily. That is the reason you opened up so many things. Good. One more thing, somebody came and told Me that, “Swamiji, I felt I need more space. I wanted to drive away all the other animals.” One person was coming and telling Me. No, that is the way real animals feel. See, you can't make animals sit so close. No, you can't. No animal will sit so close continuously and all. They need their space. So it is good, means you are really get into that space.
(02:13)
Question: I want to ask about the wounded animal. During the meditation this morning I saw many many animals but I had three that kept repeating themselves. Swamiji: That three are…you must be having major samskaras from that three bodies.
(02:30)
Question: And two of them were wounded and the last time before You stopped, I felt myself licking my wounds. Swamiji: Beautiful. See, actually the animal... the animals heal like that only. They heal themself by licking only. So it means that you really got into that body. Beautiful. Nice. Ma, that…somebody asked what is My role being here? This all is My role means really pushing them, putting the whole logic to a silence and giving a strong instruction: let the whole group fall into that experience. That is the role of the Master. See, morning one hour I was talking. The introduction if you see, the whole introduction is about putting the ego, the logic down so that, that space to trust is created. More and more people can enter into that experience. Master is a possibility. He is a promise to open the door for more and more people.
(03:38)
Question: Swamiji, in this morning session I had the question that is there any relation between the nature of this birth and the animal nature? Swamiji: Yes, yes, yes. There is a strong connection. Even though you take a human body, you are not completely human being till you work out those samskaras, those karmas.
(04:06)
Question: I have so many times, I feel like I was a cow. So is it conscious or is it possible? Swamiji: It is possibility. It is a truth, not just a mind. One more thing, before the Gayatri, Gayatri initiation, the vedic tradition.... In the vedic tradition, Gayatri initiation is the first step towards spirituality. Before the Gayatri initiation, you will be made to do this Mriga Sharira Vasa continuously for 30-40 days in those days usually, but nowadays only three minutes you are supposed to do. In three minute what will you do? And it became like a ritual. That’s where the problem and in some initiation, they don't even tell that Mantra. The Mriga sharira vasa is not even done. That is where the ‘Yogo nasta parantapaha’- In course of time, the truth is lost.
(05:12)
Actually if you make these things kids to do, they will have sharper and clear experience because they have not… still they are not conditioned. In India, in our Gurukul and in our Little Anandas program, we have a program called Little Anandas. Fifteen days workshop, intense workshop. Now we made it as a twenty one days workshop for the kids who are below fourteen years, below fourteen. In India, usually the kids get physically measured by fourteen. So before that itself we wanted them to go through this process so that they will be out of everything. By the time they physically get matured, they will be human beings.
(05:54)
See, if the physical maturity happens as a human being, you will not fall too low and you will not be too much lust centered. You see, only animal, only animal which is lust centered throughout the year and twenty four hours the day is human being. See reality. No other animal is filled with lust throughout the year and twenty four hours. Just a small suggestion is enough, the human being is ready but no other animal... because when you live with nature, there is a period, there is a time, there is a mood, there is a mind’s ups and low… body’s ups and lows. Because the mind has interfered in our system, the body getting ready or all those things are just immaterial. Moment mind is ready, body has to be ready. That is the reason that we need to workout those animal engrams before the physical maturity. Then you will be more human being, not the human being as we are now.
(07:13)
As on now, we are not human beings. Maybe living In the human body but not human beings. Just the mind is living. That is why you are twenty four hours ready. You are not natural. Animals are sometime much better. So if you remove those animal engrams, you will not be just lower than animal. Now you are lower than the animal. It will be above, it will be beyond the animal existence. In those days, before they give the Gayatri, you see the… during the Gayatri they will tie a rope in the hip and give a Kaupeen, means the loin cloth. Before that itself they will make you go through all this mriga sharira vasa so that you will live a human existence by the time you are physically mature. You will be more graceful, more feeling fulfilled.
(08:14)
Question: In one of my animals I was a vulture and I was eating something and somebody came close and I had to really fight to not flap that person. Swamiji: Hmm, hmm, I understand. Question: And after that I stood up like a man. And the next thing I was another animal again. Swamiji: That is beautiful means that you are done, Ma. You have moved, you understand? You have moved.
(08:52)
Question: Swamiji, I was so afraid to be there with my eyes closed. I don't know the reality. I felt like never before. And I don’t want to be anymore. I was so scared. Swamiji: Just go with that fear. Question: I chanted the mantra Swamiji: No Mantra will help to get rid of the fear. Only facing the fear will work. Okay, I understand. It is good, okay.
(09:28)
Question: In the process is it okay to interact with other noises? Swamiji: You can interact with the other noises as long as you don't disturb the other person. Actually some animal will get irritated with the… when somebody else is shouting. Here I saw four-five guys shouting but they did not touch each other. So then I said okay, because it is your territory. Somebody enters your territory, you can't tolerate. In the Ashram also we have some animals. We don't tie them or keep like a pet how these countries they do. We don't tie them. They are just running around but even though they are free, they have their own territories. One guy will not enter into the other side and the other guy cannot come into this side.
(10:16)
And till I leave this territory, only this dog will follow Me, and after I leave this compound, this fellow will stop and that guy will come and start. Then only he will leave and he will not cross that gate. If he crosses, the fight will start. And that guy can't come inside to escort Me. If that guy comes inside, the fight will start. These two will be standing and this guy knows to what extent he can escort Me and he will stop. Then the next guy has to come and pick up. And if that guy doesn't come also, this guy will not cross the boundary.
(10:54)
Anyhow, the space. Alright. Now it is time that we end the session. Tomorrow morning we will start the process. We may spend little more time on discussing about the Pranamaya Sharira or the experiences during Pranamaya tomorrow. The essence of all these things, your experience is, go little more deeply into the meditation, next next process, that's all. If you experience something, beautiful, go into the process now. And it is not that, you will be stopping with this. This is just a good start, good beginning. Now you are supposed to be entering into the deeper level, the deeper process.
(11:49)
Maybe before going and sleeping, you just jump for five minutes. You will really be alive and you will not be tired tomorrow morning. If you go and sleep like this mood, you will be tired tomorrow morning. I always tell people, even in your house, before sleeping, just play some song and jump for five-ten minutes. Dance wildly, not mildly Ooooooo, Oooooo. Not that kind of dance and not even moving the body and just wildly, let your whole body be active. Jump, then if you sleep, you will be fresh next day morning because the second layer energy will be alive, active. Now the first layer energy is over, done. If you jump, second layer energy will become active. Go and sleep. Tomorrow morning you will be fresh.
(12:46)
Title:
The Science of Self-Realization || Part 1|| Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name of Convention: Atma Spurana
Title: The Science of Self-Realization Part 1
Session on: The nature of conscious evolution, the ultimate truth about reincarnation, the effect of past animal lives on the human body, and the science of self-realization.
Date: 24 March, 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
In this video, Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam gives a clear description of the conscious evolution process through the being embodying different forms: from fish to tortoise, tortoise to monkey, monkey to human body, and human body to enlightened body. His Divine Holiness shares how we create the next body, and how the animal past lives influence us in the human body. He describes the process of how Samskaras (engraved memories, or karma) is created. The science of self-realization is described in detail. This video is a must see for all who wish to understand why we have certain tendencies, addictions and blocks, and how to clear those.
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Transcript:
(0:17)
Understand, this is not like NSP. If you have done NSP, don't think it will be like NSP. No, in NSP, we work on only the engrams which is recorded in those layers like, we wipe the paintings. You are healed from engrams and it is like a little lubrication. You will go back and live in the society as a much better person but now we are going to work on the very Kosha means the very layer, very canvas on which the painting engrams are carved. So it is like a, you will not be the same person again. You are not the same person now itself, from morning to now. You are not the same. How can you be same? Now lot of gender change has happened, job career change, professional change and still husband- wives are sitting next.
(01:28)
Now let us start the process. Annamaya kosha, first layer means the physical layer with which you are living - the bone, flesh, structure. See, this is made out of samskaras which you bring from so many janmas, so many births. People ask Me, “Swamiji, do You believe in reincarnation, many births?” I tell them, “No, I don't believe but I know the truth. It is there.” It’s not belief, simply it is truth. You are reborn till you are enlightened. Till you achieve Enlightenment you take birth. Rarely after Enlightenment, people take conscious birth. It is called Avatara, incarnation. All unconscious birth is regular birth and death. Rarely some people after Enlightenment take birth. It is called incarnation or avatara. Anyhow, now all you need to understand, whether you believe it or not, truth is that we do have rebirth and we bring our karmas, samskaras unfulfilled, understand, unfulfilled samskaras when we take this new body.
(03:05)
Usually when you take a big jump means the.... when you shift the bodies in which you live like a, from fish to tortoise, from tortoise you jump to the pig. That is the way the Incarnations are described traditionally, the Vishnu’s Incarnations, Avataras. First fish. See, when you live in the fish body, whatever you see and whatever you hear gets recorded. Now you know about more possibility, more samskaras like when fish sees a animal which is staying in the water and in the land- tortoise and it decides, “Let me take up this kind of a body next time.” And when it leaves the old body, now it has got all samskaras, the higher possibilities are recorded in it. So it decides to create a tortoise body for itself. Now it sees a much better animal on the land. Of course, even though it may see human beings, it can't take such big jump. Whatever samskaras it collected during the tortoise body, it gathers the whole thing and when it have wants to have a next body, it decides much better choice.
(04:40)
That is why, we always tell, even seeing an Enlightened Master is a blessing because next time when you design your body, you will decide to be that kind of a being. The possibility is already known to you. In six billion people, how many you think knows the possibility of enlightenment, the higher level of being, higher kind of existence is possible? That is why we say in Vedic tradition, Darshana, seeing itself is a great thing because in your.... you see, whatever you see, hear, enjoy, even if you are not completely aware, it will get recorded in you. That is why you can be hypnotized and information can come out. You see, even if you have not observed, when you travel in a road, the information will be recorded inside. You can be hypnotized and you will tell that information. Information can be taken out of you.
(05:50)
So when you live in a tortoise body, you receive so much of information. You see, hear, receive so much of Information and samskaras about a better body. Then you next choice, you take a better body. That is the way you take a jump. Next, next, next, next, next. That is the way you change your bodies. Now when you take the human body, human sharira, manushya sharira, the last jump which you took, the last animal, that engrams, samskaras also you bring. You bring animal samskaras which you did not fulfill when you were in the animal body, when you were in the manushya sharira. You come with those samskaras also. One more thing, now when you give life to those samskaras, the energy which is connected to those samskaras will be given to you. Two thing: all samskaras, engram will have certain power, energy, certain energy and certain love or hatred.
(07:10)
You see, let Me describe the engram very clearly so that you will understand what I am saying. Some engram to have cup of coffee in the morning. Morning you will have that energy to get up, go to the kitchen, pick up the coffee and drink and the picture of coffee, the experience of coffee- this both together is called samskara. Now we are trying to remove that picture and just give the energy to you. If you remove the samskara completely, you will lose energy and picture both but when you work on Annamaya kosha, samskaras’ energy will be there and the picture will disappear. Vasanas will be removed but the Shakti, the power of the samskara will stay with you. Vasana means the object; Shakti is power of samskara. Removing Vasana but not the power of the samskara, it is called self actualization.
(08:29)
Understand, self realization can be achieved in two way. Completely removing the samskara and energy, everything. You will have self realization. Path of renunciation. You can realize yourself by actualizing yourself also. That means having the energy removing the Vasana. Now by working on Anandamaya kosha itself, you will be having the shakti but not the vasana. You bring so much of samskaras from the different animal births. It is a very powerful method, process to re-live and get all the things out, get everything out of your being. Usually only in a very close, intimate atmosphere like teacher training and all only I give this meditation technique. It is a very powerful technique. I can't even call this technique. Again process, again and again I want to remind you guys. It is a process because technique means you can go and practice. You can't practice this. No, you can't do this in the house. It is a process. It doesn't work without Master’s presence, direct presence.
(10:06)
You go from a different bodies. You just travel from different levels to higher and higher levels like a fish to tortoise and tortoise to pig, pig to Narasimha. Narasimha means half man and half animal and from there to Vamana, pygmy man, man but short, pygmy guy. Then goes to Rama, then Krishna, growing system. When you are in the human body, if you are fortunate enough to see a Living Master, Enlightened Master and live around him, your unconscious will record, “O God! the better possibility to exist is there, better possibility to live is true.” And this, when you are supposed to take the next body will be used as an information, data. You will create an enlightened body. That is why we say that even seeing, darshana, is such a great blessing, such a great thing.
(11:28)
Now we will work on the annamaya kosha. How? Just start living all the animal engrams so that your annamaya kosha will become completely self actualized. All the samskara which you brought with your body, with your annamaya kosha becomes reality. Understand, you have got so many samskaras from animal layer. Because you never allowed them to become reality, it expresses in your everyday life. You can see when you eat, you can see when you are angry, the animals expressing through you and you can see when you are filled with lust, the animals expressing through you. Understand, sometime even you will feel frightened, ‘What am I doing? What is going on?’ Till you allow the animal inside you to be completely fulfilled and relaxed, you can't escape from it because you are carrying those engrams, you are carrying those samskaras. It should be allowed to come out. It should be allowed to actualize itself.
(13:04)
See, these engrams are so powerful, this is called prarabdha karma. This prarabdha karma is so powerful, if you allow them to work through you, they will empower you. If you suppress them, they will constantly depress you. You will be fighting with them. Whatever quality you are fighting with you, whatever way you are fighting with you… see, if you are fighting to control your anger, if you are fighting to stop smoking, if you are fighting to stop drinking, everything is directly connected to this annamaya kosha, animal layer. The samskaras which you brought from the animal level, animal layer. That is the... even for any addiction or anything, if you are fighting with yourself, responsibility is this annamaya kosha. Whatever may be the reason for your fight with you, the responsibility is the samskaras which you bring from the animal body.
(14:13)
Title:
The Science of Self-Realization || Part 2 || Atma Spurana || 24 march 2007
Description:
Name of Convention: Atma Spurana
Title: The Science of Self-Realization Part 2
Session on: The nature of conscious evolution, the ultimate truth about reincarnation, the effect of past animal lives on the human body, and the science of self-realization.
Date: 24 March, 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
In this video, Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam continues to elaborate on the effect of past lives that human beings had as animals, and shares a powerful process on how to clear those. His Divine Holiness shares the important difference between a process and a technique.
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