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+ | Sadāshiva samārambhām Shankarāchārya madhyamām | | ||
+ | asmat āchārya paryantām vande guru paramparām || | ||
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+ | I welcome you all with My love and respects. How many of you are here who are attending first time our meditation workshops. Wow! So, I welcome you all into our family. Once more… the first program, you see… the first program the beauty is let Me be very honest still I don’t know what I am going to speak and what we are going to do. 😊 And people who have done earlier who have done the first NSP or the first ASP they know that. I think nobody is here who has done first ASP. It has happened five years ago. But there are a few who have done first NSP. I think the first NSP also started the same way. But again something happens and… nice.. It’s like a, none of our programs are designed. They are revealed. There is a big difference between the designing and revelation. | ||
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+ | Let us understand this first. This is the first thing which we need to understand. Designed means: having the information what the customer wants and what is supposed to be supplied. And how best way the packaging can be done, what is the interest of the product. Means, what do you want to give and how you want to market. With all this information, with all this data, product is created and marketed. Revelation means only one thing is in the picture - need of the customer. That's all, nothing else. What the person needs, nothing else is in the front. And the truth as it should be expressed comes out. | ||
+ | [03:31] | ||
+ | Just … just now the car… one of our ashramite was talking. They went to attend some personality development seminar. We have been invited to do one of our meditations in their seminar. He was telling, “Swamiji, I was shocked because the stuff which they have is nothing, but the marketing they do is amazing.” He said that the whole stuff what they deliver during that program, we deliver in one session. So, never…. we spent all our time in creating the products, not marketing. | ||
+ | Designing is different, revelation is different. If it is a designed program, you don’t need any preparation. Because it is revelation means the truth. You need just few preparation. First thing I am not going to waste time in unnecessary intellectual arguments, giving you more and more words. See, if you want words, I have published so many volumes, hundreds of volumes, we have published two hundred volume in twelve languages. Read them all. We have more than eight hundred DVDs published. Eight hundred DVD and two hundred volumes. Just play with them all. | ||
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+ | Now these two days I do not want to waste by giving more words. Let us straight away start the work towards the process. So, do not expect too much of words. Do not waste your time with too much of words; not only not expecting from Me, you also do not waste your time in too much of words like whenever you find time, start chatting. That’s a basic trend especially Indians. That's a big disease. So try not to waste too much of time in just chatting. Atma spurana - flowering of your - ‘Self’. Understand. The ultimate consciousness which is in you that is always overflowing. That is a eternal flower. We don’t need to work on it. But something which is between that Self and us - Your body, your mind, your emotions, these few things, these few sheaths we call koshas. Only these few koshas needs to flower, needs to open, needs to radiate, needs to fall in tune. | ||
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+ | [07:2] | ||
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+ | Understand. The ultimate self itself does not need anything. But the instruments with which you experience the Self needs flow…. needs to flower. They need to open up. They need to experience the truth. You have the five layer… one more thing I wanted to tell you, if you have done NSP do not think it is like NSP. No. In NSP we work on the samskaras, engrams printed on the seven layers. Now we are going to work on the very koshas, very layers not just on the engrams. In NSP you worked on the painting. Now we are going to work on the canvas on which the engrams or paintings are painted. Koshas the five layer: | ||
+ | First layer, the first body which you carry is annamaya kosha - the physical body with flesh bones. | ||
+ | Second, Pranamaya - the breathing, the prana movement happening in you. | ||
+ | Third manomaya - the inner chattering happening in you. | ||
+ | Fourth vijnanamaya - the emotion, intense emotion happening in you. | ||
+ | Fifth ultimate anandamaya - the peace which you experience or the joy which you experience. | ||
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+ | Now all five layers need to be purified so that it constantly radiates enlightenment. One more thing please understand, in NSP we work on the samskaras, means the engrams which is printed on koshas, on the layers. Now we are going to work on the very koshas, very layer itself, on the very canvas itself. | ||
+ | The experience which is the base for all these great spiritual revelations, the experience which is supposed to be the pramana… Pramana means, the scale to measure whether something is truth or not. Experience - anubhava is the base for this whole truth. Only when you experience you will be able to understand completely. That is the only way to realize the truth as it is. So, first few basic things whatever knowledge you had already some intellectual stuff if you keep it aside and sit with open, as a open being it will be easy for Me to help you. Do not waste your money by sitting here with all the old knowledge which you collected and did not become experience. | ||
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+ | [11:26] | ||
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+ | Understand I am not talking just the meditation or other programs which you attended somewhere else. Even My programs whatever you learnt, whatever has not become experience do not carry, do not keep that in your head now. Whatever has become experience you will not keep it in your head. That would have left your head long ago. It will be in the being, it will not be in the head. So, whatever is in the head has not become experience. Understand, keep them all little aside, sit in a completely relaxed way. You can be more free and relaxed. One more thing, when you don’t have too many things in the head you will not feel things are old. If you have too many things in the head, your mind will say, “No, no, I know this. I know that.” | ||
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+ | One guy was trying to prepare for a presentation. Somehow he managed, came and did his presentation. The whole group, all the audience enjoyed except one professor, high intellectual. | ||
+ | End of the presentation this guy asked that professor, “You didn’t find anything new, you didn’t enjoy this.” The professor said, “I know every word which you uttered is taken from a book. I will send you that book tomorrow. Every word which you used is there in that book.” He was shocked. And he said, “No, I can’t believe.” Professor said, “I will give you that book tomorrow.” Next day the professor sent the book. The book was dictionary. 😊 Understand. Your mind also will play the same cunning role. I know everything he is talking. I have read in that book, I have read in this book. I heard here, I heard there. Your mind will always be telling. Your mind will always take things for granted, if you are sitting with a big head or the knowledge which has not become experience. | ||
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+ | [14:02] | ||
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+ | I always tell people, spending years and years in just acquiring knowledge is a mere waste. If you can work towards one experience, you see, experience means being convinced beyond your logic that ultimate truths are livable, Ultimate truths are reality. That is what I call experience. Understand, convinced beyond your logic that ultimate truths are livable and reality is what I call experience. Sometime people who are little innocent as I was telling in yesterday’s class, yesterday’s program, people who are innocent, it clicks very easily. Sometime people who doesn’t want to get rid of their knowledge, people who have vested interest in their knowledge, it takes ages and ages. Now one more thing, it’s really rare to get presence of an enlightened Master. In those days I will not talk very openly. In those days even people ask Me, I used to tell ‘yes, yes it’s all divine grace.’ Just I will try politely to avoid. But now I am very clearly telling you, very clearly telling you it is very difficult, and very rare to get a presence of an enlightened Master. | ||
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+ | I am enlightened. I am very clearly telling you, with a clear words and do not miss it. If you have the doubt or not able to feel connected at least sit in your house and waste your time, not here. The problem is, see the anybody who can just pay the money if they come and sit inside and not able to feel connected or sit. That’s the reason I always recommend people come for one or two discourses. And if you feel connected then come and sit, so that you will not waste other’s time. Because we are going to work as a group. We are going to work as a group. Even if few people are not completely in tune, feeling connected, then they will just become like an island. I always tell people if you feel that you are like an island not able to connect with the whole thing happening… Because mind has got its own frames, its own frames. Like a... how can enlightenment can happen in such a young age? God is not going to ask you to certify. Can I give enlightenment to him? Surely not. And we have our own ideas, our own thoughts, our own frame. | ||
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+ | If you can drop all those few things, especially whatever now I am saying is for the new people. With people who have attended, already attended some of our programs they know it. And they are, they already had some experience, that is the reason they are again here. And people who are new for them I am saying let you be completely open and ready to receive, you will see miracles happening inside you. It’s very rare to get a presence of an enlightened Master, Living Presence; such a great opportunity, such a strong possibility, you are near such a great possibility. So, do not waste it with small, small thoughts and small, small ideas and small, small arguments. I have seen many people, they waste their time being around, when they are around Me, in arguments. And after I leave the country or when I am not there, then they sit and repent, ‘Oh God, I think I wasted my time in such a petty thing.’ Because when you come first in front of any person you wanted to poke and see who he is or his capabilities. | ||
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+ | In such a petty thing… because when you come in front of any person you wanted to poke and see who he is or his capabilities. And let you be very clear now we don’t have time to do all these small games. And one more doubt usually these professional seekers means their profession itself is only seeking. Going here, there, here, there. Always they have a question, “I am initiated by that person, this guru. Can I attend? Can I have initiation? Can I learn from You”? I have no problem at all. I always tell people I have no problem at all. According to Me I have come to fulfill, to complement not to contradict. Complementing is the basic thing. I have come to complement not to contradict. | ||
+ | I have no problem at all. If you are initiated by anybody or disciple of anybody I have no problem at all. And if he has got a problem you should check with him. If he has got a problem of you coming to Me I have no… that you have to check with him. From My side I have no problem at all. From My side, one more thing, even after you being initiated I always not only encourage, I recommend, go to all sources and learn whatever you can. Go to all possible sources and learn, enrich your life. Afterall the whole purpose is enriching your being, enriching your life. So, if at all you can add something more to yourself, you are free to do so. And not only that, I encourage you to do so. Go round pluck flowers from all garden and make a beautiful bouquet for you, that's all. | ||
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+ | [02:10] | ||
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+ | Two thing you need to understand: enriching your life is an amazing thing but do not go around with a ego. See, when people come to Me, they come and tell Me, “I am with this Master for last twenty years.” So, naturally now I have to respect you as a representative of that Master. Do not go to anybody with that ego. When you go out don’t claim that you are My representative. No. Go as a student and learn. Don’t go as a Master, go as a student and learn. Whenever you go to somebody, go as a student. That will help you not as a representative of somebody. | ||
+ | I have seen many people coming to Me and they want to learn but they want some special place. They say I was with him. I am with him. I am his disciple. So now I have to represent… I have to respect him because he is representative of that Master. So, in that way you can’t learn from Me. If you are sitting here as a representative of somebody you can’t learn. No. Sit as a student. When you go somewhere else also go as a student. You will learn, you will be helped. If you are a student you will always be helped. If you go as a … go with an big ego then you can’t be helped. | ||
+ | I always encourage you to go to all possible sources and learn as a student, as a disciple, not just as a representative of some organization or with an ego. So, you are free to learn, to study or even to have initiation. In none of our literature even the literature which is given to you during healing initiation, you won’t find a word ‘don’t go to other Master’s’. No. You are here to learn. Actually there will be line, ‘Please go to all the sources and learn. Enrich yourself more.’ | ||
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+ | [04:29] | ||
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+ | These are the few things and one more thing, be little more flowing for next two days. You are in a safe blissful zone. So, you are not here just to be frozen, to be too serious, and nobody is here to exploit you or you are … you don’t have any threat, you are in a complete safe and secured zone. Just be little relaxed, little open. | ||
+ | People are constantly holding their identity just to… just because they feel insecured, threatened. You see, deep down all of us have got a desire to be in a place where you don’t need to hold on your identity. For example when you see a beach or a resort, or a snow covered mountain in website or TV or in photograph, you always feel you should be there in that spot, and you visualize, fantasize you just sitting in a boat and enjoying that ambience. You always visualize. But when you go to that spot actually you don't feel that joy or the ecstasy which you always fantasized you will have it. When you think of Miami it is fantastic not when you live there. That’s always true. Why? Because the desire is to be in a place where you don’t need to hold an identity. | ||
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+ | See now, when you are sitting here and visualizing that Miami or the snow covered mountains, you always know that there is nobody there who knows you. You are new to that place. You don’t have to hold on to your identity for survival. It’s a freedom from identity which you are searching, not changing place, changing space. Understand very deeply. This truth will help you to have vacation here and now. Your desire for vacation is nothing but desire to be away from your identity. But when you go there without knowing that truth you start, you try to establish your identity there also. In two days you will establish your identity. Do you know who am I? Do you know who am I? Do you know who am I? And in two days you are in your same hell. You are ready with your hell. | ||
+ | Now these two days try to have the real vacation, means moving away from your identity. First move away from your friends and family. Do not sit next to them. Do not sit next to your friends, next to your family just move away from them. If you are sitting next to them constantly you have to react as they want. I have seen husbands do not laugh completely when they are sitting with wifes. Every time they have to ask permission. If she laughs he also hee.. hee.. hee.. 😊. He can’t, he has to see, she has to see. And not only that constantly it’s like you hold on to that identity. You can’t even look at somebody else. No, I am not telling you to do that but just … just looking very, little clearly is nothing wrong. And you are bound so much if your eyes are just settling on somebody what is there? Arrey I am not just.. So, so much of bondage is not required. Just for two days you can be a little away and relaxed. | ||
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+ | Another one important thing, when you are sitting with your family or friends constantly you will be reminded that identity which you are carrying, identity which you are carrying, identity which you need to protect. You have your own standard, you have created an idea about you in that person, you have to maintain that. Your body language, your words, everything has to fit with that. | ||
+ | These two days, understand this is the first meditation technique I am giving for you. One more thing, I can’t use the word meditation technique. It is again the word which is abused. This word has been abused in the west. Enough! And what all they call it in the name of meditation technique, I am surprised. Anyhow, these two days workshop is neither going to be with meditation techniques nor going to be no technique. How it is going to be? You will see it. No technique and no no-technique. I have done enough programs with techniques. ASP, NSP all are with technique. And I have done enough programs with no-technique; dhyana spurana, nithyanandam. All are no-technique. Understand I have done programs with techniques and with no-techniques. Now neither technique nor no-technique. The moment I say technique your mind has already planned that I will practice in the home regularly. I should collect music CD. It is not going to have any quality of technique. If you do it in the home it will not work. Let Me be very clear. Neither technique nor no-technique. Technique means you have to try, do it again and again. Technique is a beautiful way of cheating a disciple. | ||
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+ | See, these incompetant Gurus who don't have capacity to give the truth, these idiots created techniques to cheat the disciples. See, already they took money from disciples. Now the disciple will question, “Hey, you promised, you are not giving what to do”? Then give some techniques and tell them, ‘Do this everyday. Blow your nose twenty times.’ And if you come back after two years, “No, I did nothing happened.” “No, no you should blow the air through some other way also. You did not listen the instructions properly. You missed it.” Technique is the beautiful way of postponing. No, ugly way of postponing. | ||
+ | Second thing no-technique. No-technique is also one more technique. No-technique means you don’t have to do anything. But now neither we are going to work with technique nor no-technique. We are going to work with upanishad. Understand, this whole program is based on a upanishad. Upanishad means sitting. The exact word, meaning…. the meaning of the exact word upanishad means sitting with a enlightened being. That’s all. Sitting with enlightened being is neither technique nor no-technique. | ||
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+ | Technique means you should be practicing, no you can’t practice this. No-technique means ‘not doing’. It’s not that you are not going to be not doing anything. It is called Upanishad. Neither technique nor no-technique. It is just transmission. It is just a clear connection. So, for this we need basic requirement - feeling connected. Even if you are not able to completely throw away your doubts, decide for these two days you will strongly believe, you will strongly trust, you will strongly work with the Master. That’s all. | ||
+ | See, completely all the doubts will disappear only when you become enlightened. Now decide that you will put more part of your energy, major part of your energy, you will put maximum possible energy towards the direction of working with the Master. | ||
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+ | You have two path: you can put your energy to working or to doubting. Just doubting and wasting time. Now I am asking you to put your energy more towards working. Let us work. Why waste time? And if you are doubting I need to waste lot of time in convincing you and proving you. And I already wasted enough of time in convincing people. I have convinced twelve lakh people around the world. Twelve lakh means 1.2 million, that’s the number of initiated disciples. So, I have convinced twelve lakh - 1.2 million in four years. So, be very clear in that 1.2 surely there are more intelligent people than you. So, I have enough method and technique to convince much more intelligent people than you. Then surely I have enough method. So, just relax from the head and do not bother too much about the intellectual knowledge and stuff on words. | ||
+ | Why I have to tell so many things? Why I have to take so much time? Because in the west this is a big problem; people waste so much of time in the words, so much of time in the intellectual jugglery. | ||
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+ | The other day I went to one of our devotee’s house. That devotee’s daughter, she was telling Me, “I will do whatever my mom says but I should be convinced I will ask why”? I just wanted to ask her then whatever you are doing you are convinced? You know very clearly logically what you are doing. No, with other things we are not interested, bothered about logical conviction… logically getting convinced. But when it comes to spirituality we are too cautious. I wanted to ask her you must be smoking or drinking. Are you logically convinced it is good for you? There are so many things people are not logically convinced. But they do it. But here when it comes to spirituality, too cautious. Spending too much of time too much of energy in just intellectual jugglery because they do not want to enter into the reality. It’s a cunning way of postponing the reality. | ||
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+ | See, you have to claim yourself spiritual but you are not ready to transform the life. So, just play with the knowledge. Playing with the knowledge is a nice way of postponing the reality. Now, these two days, you see, now I told you that I am enlightened, very clearly, verbally. India means I would have told very clearly ‘I am god.’ Let Me be very clear. But you fellows are not worthy of receiving the truth. That’s why I stopped with ‘I am enlightened’. I am telling you very clearly you are spoiled, corrupted so much with unnecessary words, unnecessary ideas. In India means I would have started that way only. | ||
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+ | In the west people waste too much of time in words, then going for experience, then going for the truth. Instead of working on the truth straight away, working on the reality straight away, Ramakrishna says beautifully, people who go into the mango garden and do a big survey, research. How many types of mango is there? What.. what is the production cost? What is the sales cost? And what is the income? How many trees? How many branches? How many leaves? And the statistics. All those things he comes out. He is intelligent or the guy who goes and enjoys few mangoes and rests and comes out? | ||
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+ | Not straight away going towards the reality, towards the truth. Whole time is spent in project planning, project plan, project plan, deadline, project plan, deadline; no work is done. No, really. Here you are paid if you know how to frighten or threaten your boss that job will not happen without your past.. your presence. All you need to do is just make a big words and half an hour presentation in a laptop threaten your boss that this will not happen without me. First thing you have to say “It will not happen at all.” Second thing, “It may happen if I am there.” Third thing, “Even with me I have to give my whole life, only then it will happen.” Then now you are ready for payment. That’s all. So, too much of words. | ||
+ | The Ayurveda system failed because they never learnt how to frighten a patient. They never learnt how to threaten a patient. How to exploit the patient’s fear. They were all healing, they were so soothing. Constantly they were giving only confidence and courage; so naturally patient will not come back. They don’t have a constant publicity. ‘If you have this, better check for that. If you have this small symptom, even if you don’t have, why not you have a check up? Call now, call your doctor now and talk to your doctor now about this medicine.’ And in a low voice all these things are side effect you may die soon. If you have this problem, that problem this and that in a low voice, in a small letter. | ||
+ | Ayurveda never learnt how to threaten people, how to frighten people. When you go there also, the doctors never threaten you, doctors never give you the insecurity. That's the problem with ayurveda. That is why it has not become a big successful system. Here we waste too much of time in the words, in the verse, in the words. | ||
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+ | Now also I can see when I said that in India means I would have said…. I would have started with the word ‘I Am God’. There are many people, “Oh God what is He telling?” That is why I did not start with that word. You understand, that is why I did not start with that word. That is the reason you have to sit with Me. And I have seen people, so many people having the experience without going through any technique or program. | ||
+ | Just the other day one of our devotee, she passed away, in US only. She has never done our program NSP but she has achieved far more deeper state than the people who have done NSP, than the people who have done NSP. Actually I went to heal her, means just to bless her before she passed away. After healing I turned towards her feet and did namaskar. When I came out in the … these all only My close guys who live with Me only can watch. These moments devotees can’t watch. One fellow who is closely living around Me, he asked in the car, “What is this Swamiji? You did namaskar to her, towards her feet. Why”? And she has not done any program. All she had done is she heard about Me and felt connected, that's all. She has seen Me only once. | ||
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+ | I said why I did namaskar to her feet… in Bhagavata there is a beautiful story. Krishna was painting the feet of Radha with mehandi means that a hm… whatever you call. Anyhow Krishna was painting the feet of Radha with some decoration, cosmetics, maybe those days manicure and pedicure eh what you call hmm. Anyhow, that is the 😊 what is the name? Pedicure. Anyhow hmm.. those days pedicure. So, Krishna was doing that to Radha. These Rishis, jealous fellows and they are asking, “What! How can you do that to a girl? You may be in love with her. But you are God. How you can touch the feet of somebody, some girl. It is too much. We can’t digest this. Our God touching some girl’s feet.” Actually their ego is hurt. They are touching somebody’s feet and He is touching somebody else’s feet. That is too much for them. Now it is like they are indirectly touching Radha’s feet, which they do not want. See that is the real problem. That is the real problem. And they said how can you do that? | ||
+ | Krishna says beautifully, understand, “She is more connected to Me because of her devotion than this body connected to Me. So, this body feels shy and does, offers the respect to her feet.” Understand. She is more connected to Me, than this body is connected to Me, so this body is feeling shy and offering the respect to that body, to that person. If you understand this one thing, the atma spurna is done. Nothing else. Krishna says “She is more connected to Me than this body is connected to Me. I feel she is more close to Me than this body. That is why this body is touching her feet and offering the devotion, respect.’ | ||
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+ | This has got so many truths this one sentence. One thing: He is beyond this body. Second thing: the feeling connected happens only by a deep trust or surrendering or relaxing. And the third thing: when devotion happens to you, you become much more than God. Understand, when a devotion happens to you, you become much more than God. That is what you need to understand by this one sentence, one statement. So, I told the same thing to our … the person who was driving Me. So, I felt already that she is more connected to Me than this body itself just because of her simple faith and devotion. | ||
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+ | And the same way she left the body so beautifully, so gracefully, so gracefully she left the body. She has not done any program. The only reason I can say, she is from the Indian tradition. She was not trained with the intellectual or the ways of the logic, ways of the logic. One more thing, there are many people who are from India, don’t think you are from Indian tradition. No. You are not from Indian tradition. There are many people from west. Don’t think you are just western logic person. No. It is not based on the birth of the country. It is based on the, the Being, the quality of your Being. Do not think all the people who took birth in west are westerns. No. And all westerners who are here are Indians. That’s why you are here. That is why you are here. And all the Indians who are here don’t think you are Indians. Relax. You are here, don’t think you are Indians. I can assure all the people who are from west who are here are in tune with the Indian tradition. That’s why you are here. But not all the Indians. And at least for NRIs. | ||
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+ | Anyhow, so the first thing I want to tell you… not technique, first thing. Let Me coin a new word, the first, maybe you can use - first upanishad means the sitting. These two days drop from your identity. If you are a doctor, think yourself as a engineer. If you are lawyer, think yourself as a doctor. Just change your identity. Just relax from your identity for these two days. Understand you don't know the freedom you will experience. You don’t know the freedom you will experience. Just for two days decide I am not going to prove my identity. I am not going to hold onto my identity. Just two days be a Paramahamsa. | ||
+ | Paramahamsa is a person who says very clearly… Paramahamsa means ‘mad’. The word literally means. Instead of society calling Me, I Myself say I am mad, so that I am free. No, I don’t have to just follow one idea, one mold. I give only one guarantee - I will not hurt you. That’s all. But I am not interested in proving any identity. I am not interested in proving any identity to you. That is why I don’t even use the word Swami. This swami word is associated with too much of identity, too many problems, too many difficulties. That is why I never use that word Swami. Paramahamsa means liberated. | ||
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+ | You can also live the life of liberation for these two days. For next two days do not carry your identity, means try to avoid to sit with your family or friends, try even to avoid talking. Try to avoid talking, because if you start talking you will have to bring the same identity back and you will have to talk in the same way. You will be in the same track. Two days relax, do not carry the identity, do not carry your same stuff, ideas. Just be somewhere, just be like a vagabond. Hippies are the people who are very close to enlightenment. All they need is little meditation, that's all. That’s all, nothing else. | ||
+ | These two days relax from identities. Relax from proving the identity, just be completely relaxed. Don’t bother. You will see so much can happen in you. So much of transformation can happen in you. You will be a new Being, new person when you leave the hall. | ||
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+ | [12:47] | ||
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+ | So, great opportunity to sit, experience upanishad. Now you are going to experience upanishad, such a great opportunity to experience upanishad from the very source of the tradition, from the very source, from the very root. So, all you need is only one thing relaxing from your identity. And if you don’t have one you are saved already. Half of the job is done. If you have one, then relax from it for next two days. Nothing else to be told. You are ready. All you need to do is relaxing from the identity so that the upanishad, the process itself can be started. The upanishad can be started. Now we will start the first thing initiation. Sit completely with a open Being. Even you can visualize, you can feel that you are open. Visualize that you are completely open; means like a, you are a flower fully opened, full blossomed, fully available, that you are totally relaxed. And just listen these few mantras. Understand I am going to chant the upanishad on which we are going to work. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [14:38] | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | ==Title== | ||
+ | God can be Experienced, not Visualized || Atma Spurana || 25 March 2007 | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Link to Video: == | ||
+ | {{#evu: | ||
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+ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jujGGmJeoao | ||
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+ | |alignment=center }} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Transcript:== | ||
+ | |||
+ | (0:15) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | What is the meaning of God? | ||
+ | Whatever you can visualize and what all you can't visualize is God. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (0:25) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Now it is time to work on Vijnanamaya kosha, do the process. Vijnanamaya kosha means knowledge, visualization. Now you are supposed to expand your visualization to that extent, to such extent, the vijnanamaya kosha relaxes completely. How to go about it? You have to visualize all the Cosmos. You have to go to the extreme where your visualization is completely tired or can't go further. It completely rests. If I tell you to visualize the planet earth and the moon and the sun, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize the whole Cosmos, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize beyond, beyond, beyond, what will you do? No, you can't visualize just... I will tell you, visualize beyond Me also. Then? | ||
+ | |||
+ | (01:39) | ||
+ | |||
+ | At some point, your visualization will become…. it won't be capable of functioning. It won't be able to travel. The Taittiriya Upanishad says where mind and words come back, unable to reach, that space has to be visualised. Actually we are working based on one upanishad- Taittiriya Upanishad. Many things are from that upanishad. Even the mantra is from that upanishad only…. Where your mind can't continue its logical process, where your inner space can't function.... See, your inner space is like a camera. It can capture anything. We should capture something which can’t be captured by your inner space. Then your vijnanamaya kosha, means the emotions or the recording of the emotions will have gap between your ego and itself. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (03:13) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Now whatever I try to explain, you guys will try to visualize…. Maybe, let’s work on it. Let’s work on visualizing which you can't visualize. | ||
+ | Yado Vaso Nivartante means the Aprapya Manasa Saha. | ||
+ | When mind and the visualization and the words come back without able to grasp, when they are not able to grasp and come back, that space to be meditated upon, that space has to be experienced for vijnanamaya kosha. Now be very clear, no sleep. No sleep. Actually, I am going to take you to the space either you will fall asleep or expand completely. Either you will fall asleep or expand. So now you should be very clear: no sleep. Sit in vajrasana. That is best thing. If you really have pain, you can sit on the chair. You don't have to sit in the vajrasana but no sleeping. On the chair you can't sleep. If you sleep you will fall. So no question of sleep. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (05:06) | ||
+ | |||
+ | See understand, see understand the truth behind this whole thing. Actually you cannot visualize enlightenment itself. Recently I saw that movie ‘Secret.’ These guys are telling that if you visualize anything you will achieve it. Enlightenment and all you can't visualize. You can't visualize Enlightenment and all. Enlightenment is supposed to happen. You can only visualize which can't be visualised means exhausting your vijnanamaya. Just using or taking the vijnanamaya to that extent where it can't do anything and completely liberates you and liberates itself. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (06:00) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Please close your eyes and tie the ribbon. Just go with Me. I will guide you. It will be more powerful than the…. all the things which you did from yesterday. No visualization. Just be inside your body. Don't imagine anything. Just feel your body. Expand. Now start visualizing just few inches more than your body. Visualize you are just few inches bigger than your body…. Feel, visualize this whole hall…. Include this whole hall into yourself, into your being. Feel all the people are sitting inside you. This whole hall is inside you…. Now expand and include this whole city inside yourself. Include this whole city in your being. Let this city be inside your being…. Expand, include this whole country into yourself. Expand, let this whole country be included in you…. Expand, let this whole planet earth be included in you. Visualize, feel whole planet earth is inside you. Let the whole planet earth be included into you. Not just imagining, feel it, see it…. Let the whole planet earth be included. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (10:28) | ||
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+ | Expand, let the moon and the whole solar system be included into your being. Expand and feel the whole solar system is inside you. Feel it. Fill it. Let you be filled by it. Let it be filled by you…. Continue to expand. Let this whole Cosmos be included into your being. Let this whole Cosmos be inside you…. Expand, let the whole Cosmos be included into you. Expand, continue to expand beyond your visualization, beyond your mind. Expand, expand, expand. Just see the whole universe, whole Cosmos. Let the whole cosmos be filled by you. Expand, continue to expand…. Expand, continue to expand. Let the whole Universe be filled by you. Let you be filled by it. | ||
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+ | (14:29) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Meditation | ||
+ | |||
+ | (17:45) | ||
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+ | ==Transcript:== | ||
+ | |||
+ | (0:16) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Is using marijuana only a delusion? Or can it have a positive, spiritual, mental, physical effect? | ||
+ | Swamiji: I think morning itself I answered. It has nothing to do with spirituality. Marijuana and intellect both are nothing to do with spirituality. Both will only waste your life. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (0:51) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Since You are enlightened do You plan to be born again in this world? Of matter and.... | ||
+ | Swamiji: No, I decided I will not take one more birth. Enough but I am going to live quite a long time this time. I created the body to live for a long time but I am not going to come back once more. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (01:15) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Since divorce need to be avoided, how about having just partners without getting married? | ||
+ | Swamiji: I have no problem. If it is... if both of you agree and your country agrees, who am I to disturb? It is up to you and if the country in which accepts legally… is it legal in this country? Okay, okay. So it is all up to you but vedic tradition we don't usually accept. We say that …why we say no divorce you know, just to tell you that again and again changing the outer man or woman is not going to help. Once try, when it does not workout, take Sanyas, that's all. So that is the reason in vedic tradition, they insist on no.... So... | ||
+ | |||
+ | (02:23) | ||
+ | |||
+ | So, some personal healing and personal question. Alright. We can spend little time maybe if you have any experience about the morning meditation. Two meditations we did. One is..... Two process, not even meditation, process like a living mriga sharira means the animal body and the pranamaya, just filing the pranamaya sharira. If you have any experience you can share or any question so that I can help you to go into the process further, tomorrow's process. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (03:09) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: Can a female become an enlightened master? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Why not? There are so many women enlightened. Maitreyi, Gargi and so many from time immemorial we have women enlightened masters. No doubt. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (03:24) | ||
+ | |||
+ | (Swamiji reads a question) | ||
+ | Question: One time you said dreams are mind’s way of resolving and expressing some conflict within us. So when You come to us in our dreams, is this related? Is this our doubts expressing or is this not related to conflict? | ||
+ | Swamiji: If you see Me in your dream and if you are able to remember Me in multicolor, when next day morning when you get up, if you remember Me, you remember the dream full of four color, multi colors, colorful, then it is My Darshan. If you are not able to remember with color, just try to remember, are you able to.... Did you see the color of My cloth or just it is a black and white. If you have seen the color of My cloth, if it was colorful, then it is My vision… it is My Darshan. If it was not colorful, then it is not My Darshan, it is just a thought, it is just a dream. That is the scale. Any spiritual dream. Spiritual dream will be... will have a strong impact on your inner space. You will be able to recollect like a movie but ordinary dreams you will not be able to recollect like a movie. It will be just vague Indian Doordarshan…. Alright. If any of you want to share few words about your experience of the first meditation. Let us analyse few minutes on the first. Then we will send the mic. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (05:00) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: During the first meditation, You said to get intense and make sounds but I was never really into animals. So I was imagining being like a fish | ||
+ | Swamiji: That is no problem. Just let your ... If your body is alive that is enough. That is enough. Fishes don't make sound. I think we don't hear, that's all. I don't think they don't make sound. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (05:27) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Swamiji, I had a vision of a couple of animals while doing the meditations. Does that mean that I have taken those bodies? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Yes sure, if it was a clear vision, if it was a vague or strong a clear vision, clear picture, literally clear picture, then surely it is a samskara. It means that those engrams are coming out. It is like your prarabdha is like a pandora box, pandora box. When you open, layer by layer it will come out. So you really opened. Good. Good job. If you had at least one violent experience that for few seconds you lost the idea that you are a man, then successful. You have done it. You have done it. See the purpose of this whole two day workshop, see, I have an idealistic goal, one thing and actual goal. There is another one thing. Idealistic goal is you getting enlightened but actual goal I know to what extent you will do. The technology itself is powerful enough to make you enlightened. But your capability to experience the technology, your capability to put yourself into it, with that I have a practical goal. At least complete rejuvenation and the engrams which you use in the day to day life, healing that. The engrams with which you suffer day to day life like a simple, basic diseases- Insomnia, tiredness or chronic fatigue, basic diseases, healing you out of that. The addictions and giving you the intense joy or the excitement. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (07:18) | ||
+ | |||
+ | See, the physical and mental healing is the practical goal. At least this will happen but the ideological goal is Enlightenment. So this is the idea behind the whole program. This opening, feeling at least for few minutes disconnected from the identity that you are a man, you allow at least the basic engrams which are constantly erupting in your life and attacking you which comes out the moment you lose your imbalance. Usually you lose your balance little in hunger or lust, during those moments. Those engrams will just come out first. Those layers will be healed. Even that will do so much of benefit. That will take care of you so much. That is the purpose. So even for two-three minutes, you did not remember at all that you have a human body, you have done it! We have done the meditation for quite a long time but at least two-three minutes if you have done, ok. | ||
+ | One by one. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (08:27) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: So, conversely, when he actually saw figures of the animals, I guess what I had was.. | ||
+ | Swamiji: No guessing. No, no, no guessing. Straight clear cut. No question of talking this sophisticated corporate language. | ||
+ | Question: I had behavior of like wagging tail of a dog | ||
+ | Swamiji: Yes, means you opened it, okay. You see, this sophisticated way of talking sometime they come to Me and I ask them, “Hey, did you do that work?” “No, I didn't get a chance.” What do you mean by the word you didn't get a chance? Tell clearly you didn't do. Using the polished words. Tell clearly you are a lazy dash dash and did not do. No, let it be very straight and instead of that having some taka taka taka taka words and very politely roundabout. Talking straight you should learn from Vivekananda. If you read Vivekananda's lectures He will be very straight. No question of this roundabout and using polished words and all. Very nice. It will be very nice if you learn how to talk very straight. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (09:54) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: I had lots of feeling like an eagle and goats and all kinds of other animals. And a very intense experience experiencing the monkey and it was the only animal where I really experienced intense aggressiveness. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Means that your past when you took the jump. See, past means it need not be just your last birth will be monkey. No, last birth can be human being but the jump which you took, the last.... you might have taken three-four human births also. Now it may be fourth human birth but from the just before the human birth, monkey would have been the body you lived, you would have lived. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (10:38) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Yes, so what happened was I got really aggressive so aggressive and I was like ok I am just going to let it go and then after that it was just finished. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Beautiful. You will see now again when you become angry or when you are possessed by lust, you will not have violence, you will not have that animal thing. You will have a grace. You will have grace. Actually in our ashram big problem is, these fellows don't respect even if I become angry. Even if I shout at them, they go behind and talk, “He looks very cute even when He shouts.” No, these guys talk very clearly behind. You see, you will not be able to have that violence. That will be lost from you. Even when you become angry, you will not have that monkey violence which was sitting all these days in you. Now it will disappear and one more thing, quickly you will be able to come back from anger. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (11:49) | ||
+ | |||
+ | See, if the monkey is sitting inside, if you become angry, to come back, to settle down, it will take two-three days. Now if that animal is not there, you will become angry. Next moment it will just disappear. You won't have that mriga sharira inside. Your annamaya kosha, your body is not just your body. It was having so many prints together. Now we are working to make that body as your body, that's all. Bringing the whole thing under you so that you will live completely inside the body. It will be very pleasant feeling if body is owned by you. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (12:37) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Is it okay to do just some visualization about the sound and movement? Do you still get results? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Okay yes, yes, yes. Because for some people I said not to do physically. Those guys, yes okay because it is more working on the engrams only. | ||
+ | Question: Is it a practice to be done… | ||
+ | Swamiji: No no. No practice. It is just a process to be done here, that's all. But we will be working on the same in a deeper level by tomorrow. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (13:15) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: The animals that he ate in the past, will that... | ||
+ | Swamiji: No, no, no. no, no. Animals which you ate will not be there. You see, the suffering.... No, no, no, no, no. The suffering recorded in that animal’s body, that suffering will be there in your body. The animal samskara itself will not be there. Whenever a animal is killed, it leaves tremendous suffering. You see, you are not eating the beef or a cow which has died naturally. You are eating after killing. So it is naturally a premature death for that animal. It is being killed. So it leaves tremendous suffering and depression, feeling of unfulfillment in that flesh. So, when you swallow those things naturally those same feelings will be recorded in you but the quality of that animal will not be there…. And I have seen really vegetarian people are less prone to depression. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (14:21) | ||
+ | |||
+ | See, I Am not for vegetarian because no vegetarian company is sponsoring Me. I Am not sponsored by any vegetarian food producers or companies. From My experience I tell you, I have done enough of research in the human consciousness, worked with more than million disciples. So I can tell you, surely the vegetarian food helps you, even if you are not a spiritual seeker, even if you are not a person who is interested in spirituality. Even to live a normal life, vegetarian food does a big help. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (15:04) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Swami, I just want to know, when we are doing an exercise that is powerful, what is Your part in that exercise? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Oh, My part! To open up. See, there are many hard nuts, to crack them. That is the first thing. Second thing, those karmas which is released, it has to disappear. Understand, and moreover those vacuum spaces which you are creating by releasing will be filled by My presence. Understand, it is a very esoteric presence, esoteric process. Usually when I explain these esoteric process, it seems like a I claim too many things. So better let Me not claim. Let the experience happen. Even the thing which I claimed today morning that I am enlightened I think few people are hurt. I saw one or two questions. “Why did You say? You could have allowed us to say.” Arey, you can't understand. Very clearly Krishna says in the Gita, “Unless I tell about Me you can't know. You will not know. Whatever you know about Me is less.” | ||
+ | |||
+ | (16:08) | ||
+ | |||
+ | If you attend two-three programs, you will understand, every program your understanding about Me is developing, expanding. The first level program, second level program, just try to attend two-three programs. You will understand, your understanding about Me expands. Krishna says very clearly, “Unless I tell about Me, you can't know. You will not know.” So there is no other way. I have to tell some time. Even if it hurts it is okay. It's a very esoteric process, Ma. See, now as on… before the meditation, you had the animal parts inside you, those engrams and vasanas. Now that will come out and the possibility of having an enlightened body will be recorded so that the moment you decide for the next body, when you have the choice to decide the next body, design the next body, you will design to be an enlightened master. You will ask for the best model. All the model which you saw, get the best model. Hey, Ha, this is right ok, let’s go ahead. | ||
+ | (17:12) | ||
+ | Question: Speaking on the food, how about plants? We kill plants to eat. | ||
+ | Swamiji: See, I saw those… consciously I tried to scan and plants does not have so much of consciousness to suffer, to have experience pain but these guys experience pain, these animals. That is the thing. | ||
+ | (17:33) | ||
+ | Question: Same with eggs too or… | ||
+ | Swamiji: Eggs also there is life. The possibility of life is there. With milk there is no possibility. People ask Me, “Swamiji, when milk comes from cow, egg comes from hen, why milk is vegetarian and egg is not vegetarian?” “If you sit on egg you want.... If you sit on milk you won’t get calf but if you sit on egg, you will get chicken.” And somebody may ask, “No, no, no, poultry egg?” Poultry egg may not have the male part but the feminine part of life is there. You understand, the possibility the feminine part, female part is there. So, the moment the possibility for life is there it becomes non-veg. | ||
+ | (18:22) | ||
+ | Question: Swamiji, I tried really hard to get angry in my meditation but I could not and I don't know if I was doing something wrong. | ||
+ | Swamiji: I think you are not doing anything wrong. You are not able to open up means that you are not able to get rid of this strong identity. All right, at least next, next layers, decide that you are going to break. Even if it is like a acting in the initial level it is okay. For few minutes act, then you will see suddenly things open up. | ||
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+ | (19:01) | ||
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+ | |||
+ | (0:14) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Swamiji: Next? | ||
+ | Question: I am not sure of the animal I was in. I thought I did get the monkey and what I got was a very strong sense of being a wounded animal. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Hmmm, it is good. Actually Ma, sometime you will feel an animal which is handicapped or which is not able to do. So even those karmas are good. Just work with this means the… you would have left the body because of some accident. You understand what I am saying? You would have died in that animal body because of some accident or suffering. You are able to understand what I am saying? | ||
+ | |||
+ | (0:58) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Yes, but I don't even know what animal it was. | ||
+ | Swamiji: That is okay, no problem. Just the lump of pain, just the feeling of suffering? Hmmm? Okay. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (01:09) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Swamiji, I was getting so worried I see a lot of animals. All these animals- a lion, tiger, cat, everything. | ||
+ | Swamiji: It is good. No, actually you are opening too many layers at a time immediately. It is good actually. See, you already did Nityanandam na? So lot of… your layers are very porous. It can be just opened easily. That is the reason you opened up so many things. Good. One more thing, somebody came and told Me that, “Swamiji, I felt I need more space. I wanted to drive away all the other animals.” One person was coming and telling Me. No, that is the way real animals feel. See, you can't make animals sit so close. No, you can't. No animal will sit so close continuously and all. They need their space. So it is good, means you are really get into that space. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (02:13) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: I want to ask about the wounded animal. During the meditation this morning I saw many many animals but I had three that kept repeating themselves. | ||
+ | Swamiji: That three are…you must be having major samskaras from that three bodies. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (02:30) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: And two of them were wounded and the last time before You stopped, I felt myself licking my wounds. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Beautiful. See, actually the animal... the animals heal like that only. They heal themself by licking only. So it means that you really got into that body. Beautiful. Nice. Ma, that…somebody asked what is My role being here? This all is My role means really pushing them, putting the whole logic to a silence and giving a strong instruction: let the whole group fall into that experience. That is the role of the Master. See, morning one hour I was talking. The introduction if you see, the whole introduction is about putting the ego, the logic down so that, that space to trust is created. More and more people can enter into that experience. Master is a possibility. He is a promise to open the door for more and more people. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (03:38) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: Swamiji, in this morning session I had the question that is there any relation between the nature of this birth and the animal nature? | ||
+ | Swamiji: Yes, yes, yes. There is a strong connection. Even though you take a human body, you are not completely human being till you work out those samskaras, those karmas. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (04:06) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: I have so many times, I feel like I was a cow. So is it conscious or is it possible? | ||
+ | Swamiji: It is possibility. It is a truth, not just a mind. One more thing, before the Gayatri, Gayatri initiation, the vedic tradition.... In the vedic tradition, Gayatri initiation is the first step towards spirituality. Before the Gayatri initiation, you will be made to do this Mriga Sharira Vasa continuously for 30-40 days in those days usually, but nowadays only three minutes you are supposed to do. In three minute what will you do? And it became like a ritual. That’s where the problem and in some initiation, they don't even tell that Mantra. The Mriga sharira vasa is not even done. That is where the ‘Yogo nasta parantapaha’- In course of time, the truth is lost. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (05:12) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Actually if you make these things kids to do, they will have sharper and clear experience because they have not… still they are not conditioned. In India, in our Gurukul and in our Little Anandas program, we have a program called Little Anandas. Fifteen days workshop, intense workshop. Now we made it as a twenty one days workshop for the kids who are below fourteen years, below fourteen. In India, usually the kids get physically measured by fourteen. So before that itself we wanted them to go through this process so that they will be out of everything. By the time they physically get matured, they will be human beings. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (05:54) | ||
+ | |||
+ | See, if the physical maturity happens as a human being, you will not fall too low and you will not be too much lust centered. You see, only animal, only animal which is lust centered throughout the year and twenty four hours the day is human being. See reality. No other animal is filled with lust throughout the year and twenty four hours. Just a small suggestion is enough, the human being is ready but no other animal... because when you live with nature, there is a period, there is a time, there is a mood, there is a mind’s ups and low… body’s ups and lows. Because the mind has interfered in our system, the body getting ready or all those things are just immaterial. Moment mind is ready, body has to be ready. That is the reason that we need to workout those animal engrams before the physical maturity. Then you will be more human being, not the human being as we are now. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (07:13) | ||
+ | |||
+ | As on now, we are not human beings. Maybe living In the human body but not human beings. Just the mind is living. That is why you are twenty four hours ready. You are not natural. Animals are sometime much better. So if you remove those animal engrams, you will not be just lower than animal. Now you are lower than the animal. It will be above, it will be beyond the animal existence. In those days, before they give the Gayatri, you see the… during the Gayatri they will tie a rope in the hip and give a Kaupeen, means the loin cloth. Before that itself they will make you go through all this mriga sharira vasa so that you will live a human existence by the time you are physically mature. You will be more graceful, more feeling fulfilled. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (08:14) | ||
+ | Question: In one of my animals I was a vulture and I was eating something and somebody came close and I had to really fight to not flap that person. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Hmm, hmm, I understand. | ||
+ | Question: And after that I stood up like a man. And the next thing I was another animal again. | ||
+ | Swamiji: That is beautiful means that you are done, Ma. You have moved, you understand? You have moved. | ||
+ | (08:52) | ||
+ | Question: Swamiji, I was so afraid to be there with my eyes closed. I don't know the reality. I felt like never before. And I don’t want to be anymore. I was so scared. | ||
+ | Swamiji: Just go with that fear. | ||
+ | Question: I chanted the mantra | ||
+ | Swamiji: No Mantra will help to get rid of the fear. Only facing the fear will work. Okay, I understand. It is good, okay. | ||
+ | (09:28) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Question: In the process is it okay to interact with other noises? | ||
+ | Swamiji: You can interact with the other noises as long as you don't disturb the other person. Actually some animal will get irritated with the… when somebody else is shouting. Here I saw four-five guys shouting but they did not touch each other. So then I said okay, because it is your territory. Somebody enters your territory, you can't tolerate. In the Ashram also we have some animals. We don't tie them or keep like a pet how these countries they do. We don't tie them. They are just running around but even though they are free, they have their own territories. One guy will not enter into the other side and the other guy cannot come into this side. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (10:16) | ||
+ | |||
+ | And till I leave this territory, only this dog will follow Me, and after I leave this compound, this fellow will stop and that guy will come and start. Then only he will leave and he will not cross that gate. If he crosses, the fight will start. And that guy can't come inside to escort Me. If that guy comes inside, the fight will start. These two will be standing and this guy knows to what extent he can escort Me and he will stop. Then the next guy has to come and pick up. And if that guy doesn't come also, this guy will not cross the boundary. | ||
+ | |||
+ | (10:54) | ||
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+ | Anyhow, the space. Alright. Now it is time that we end the session. Tomorrow morning we will start the process. We may spend little more time on discussing about the Pranamaya Sharira or the experiences during Pranamaya tomorrow. The essence of all these things, your experience is, go little more deeply into the meditation, next next process, that's all. If you experience something, beautiful, go into the process now. And it is not that, you will be stopping with this. This is just a good start, good beginning. Now you are supposed to be entering into the deeper level, the deeper process. | ||
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+ | (11:49) | ||
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+ | Maybe before going and sleeping, you just jump for five minutes. You will really be alive and you will not be tired tomorrow morning. If you go and sleep like this mood, you will be tired tomorrow morning. I always tell people, even in your house, before sleeping, just play some song and jump for five-ten minutes. Dance wildly, not mildly Ooooooo, Oooooo. Not that kind of dance and not even moving the body and just wildly, let your whole body be active. Jump, then if you sleep, you will be fresh next day morning because the second layer energy will be alive, active. Now the first layer energy is over, done. If you jump, second layer energy will become active. Go and sleep. Tomorrow morning you will be fresh. | ||
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+ | (0:17) | ||
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+ | Understand, this is not like NSP. If you have done NSP, don't think it will be like NSP. No, in NSP, we work on only the engrams which is recorded in those layers like, we wipe the paintings. You are healed from engrams and it is like a little lubrication. You will go back and live in the society as a much better person but now we are going to work on the very Kosha means the very layer, very canvas on which the painting engrams are carved. So it is like a, you will not be the same person again. You are not the same person now itself, from morning to now. You are not the same. How can you be same? Now lot of gender change has happened, job career change, professional change and still husband- wives are sitting next. | ||
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+ | (01:28) | ||
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+ | Now let us start the process. Annamaya kosha, first layer means the physical layer with which you are living - the bone, flesh, structure. See, this is made out of samskaras which you bring from so many janmas, so many births. People ask Me, “Swamiji, do You believe in reincarnation, many births?” I tell them, “No, I don't believe but I know the truth. It is there.” It’s not belief, simply it is truth. You are reborn till you are enlightened. Till you achieve Enlightenment you take birth. Rarely after Enlightenment, people take conscious birth. It is called Avatara, incarnation. All unconscious birth is regular birth and death. Rarely some people after Enlightenment take birth. It is called incarnation or avatara. Anyhow, now all you need to understand, whether you believe it or not, truth is that we do have rebirth and we bring our karmas, samskaras unfulfilled, understand, unfulfilled samskaras when we take this new body. | ||
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+ | (03:05) | ||
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+ | Usually when you take a big jump means the.... when you shift the bodies in which you live like a, from fish to tortoise, from tortoise you jump to the pig. That is the way the Incarnations are described traditionally, the Vishnu’s Incarnations, Avataras. First fish. See, when you live in the fish body, whatever you see and whatever you hear gets recorded. Now you know about more possibility, more samskaras like when fish sees a animal which is staying in the water and in the land- tortoise and it decides, “Let me take up this kind of a body next time.” And when it leaves the old body, now it has got all samskaras, the higher possibilities are recorded in it. So it decides to create a tortoise body for itself. Now it sees a much better animal on the land. Of course, even though it may see human beings, it can't take such big jump. Whatever samskaras it collected during the tortoise body, it gathers the whole thing and when it have wants to have a next body, it decides much better choice. | ||
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+ | (04:40) | ||
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+ | That is why, we always tell, even seeing an Enlightened Master is a blessing because next time when you design your body, you will decide to be that kind of a being. The possibility is already known to you. In six billion people, how many you think knows the possibility of enlightenment, the higher level of being, higher kind of existence is possible? That is why we say in Vedic tradition, Darshana, seeing itself is a great thing because in your.... you see, whatever you see, hear, enjoy, even if you are not completely aware, it will get recorded in you. That is why you can be hypnotized and information can come out. You see, even if you have not observed, when you travel in a road, the information will be recorded inside. You can be hypnotized and you will tell that information. Information can be taken out of you. | ||
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+ | (05:50) | ||
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+ | So when you live in a tortoise body, you receive so much of information. You see, hear, receive so much of Information and samskaras about a better body. Then you next choice, you take a better body. That is the way you take a jump. Next, next, next, next, next. That is the way you change your bodies. Now when you take the human body, human sharira, manushya sharira, the last jump which you took, the last animal, that engrams, samskaras also you bring. You bring animal samskaras which you did not fulfill when you were in the animal body, when you were in the manushya sharira. You come with those samskaras also. One more thing, now when you give life to those samskaras, the energy which is connected to those samskaras will be given to you. Two thing: all samskaras, engram will have certain power, energy, certain energy and certain love or hatred. | ||
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+ | (07:10) | ||
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+ | You see, let Me describe the engram very clearly so that you will understand what I am saying. Some engram to have cup of coffee in the morning. Morning you will have that energy to get up, go to the kitchen, pick up the coffee and drink and the picture of coffee, the experience of coffee- this both together is called samskara. Now we are trying to remove that picture and just give the energy to you. If you remove the samskara completely, you will lose energy and picture both but when you work on Annamaya kosha, samskaras’ energy will be there and the picture will disappear. Vasanas will be removed but the Shakti, the power of the samskara will stay with you. Vasana means the object; Shakti is power of samskara. Removing Vasana but not the power of the samskara, it is called self actualization. | ||
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+ | (08:29) | ||
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+ | Understand, self realization can be achieved in two way. Completely removing the samskara and energy, everything. You will have self realization. Path of renunciation. You can realize yourself by actualizing yourself also. That means having the energy removing the Vasana. Now by working on Anandamaya kosha itself, you will be having the shakti but not the vasana. You bring so much of samskaras from the different animal births. It is a very powerful method, process to re-live and get all the things out, get everything out of your being. Usually only in a very close, intimate atmosphere like teacher training and all only I give this meditation technique. It is a very powerful technique. I can't even call this technique. Again process, again and again I want to remind you guys. It is a process because technique means you can go and practice. You can't practice this. No, you can't do this in the house. It is a process. It doesn't work without Master’s presence, direct presence. | ||
+ | (10:06) | ||
+ | You go from a different bodies. You just travel from different levels to higher and higher levels like a fish to tortoise and tortoise to pig, pig to Narasimha. Narasimha means half man and half animal and from there to Vamana, pygmy man, man but short, pygmy guy. Then goes to Rama, then Krishna, growing system. When you are in the human body, if you are fortunate enough to see a Living Master, Enlightened Master and live around him, your unconscious will record, “O God! the better possibility to exist is there, better possibility to live is true.” And this, when you are supposed to take the next body will be used as an information, data. You will create an enlightened body. That is why we say that even seeing, darshana, is such a great blessing, such a great thing. | ||
+ | (11:28) | ||
+ | Now we will work on the annamaya kosha. How? Just start living all the animal engrams so that your annamaya kosha will become completely self actualized. All the samskara which you brought with your body, with your annamaya kosha becomes reality. Understand, you have got so many samskaras from animal layer. Because you never allowed them to become reality, it expresses in your everyday life. You can see when you eat, you can see when you are angry, the animals expressing through you and you can see when you are filled with lust, the animals expressing through you. Understand, sometime even you will feel frightened, ‘What am I doing? What is going on?’ Till you allow the animal inside you to be completely fulfilled and relaxed, you can't escape from it because you are carrying those engrams, you are carrying those samskaras. It should be allowed to come out. It should be allowed to actualize itself. | ||
+ | (13:04) | ||
+ | See, these engrams are so powerful, this is called prarabdha karma. This prarabdha karma is so powerful, if you allow them to work through you, they will empower you. If you suppress them, they will constantly depress you. You will be fighting with them. Whatever quality you are fighting with you, whatever way you are fighting with you… see, if you are fighting to control your anger, if you are fighting to stop smoking, if you are fighting to stop drinking, everything is directly connected to this annamaya kosha, animal layer. The samskaras which you brought from the animal level, animal layer. That is the... even for any addiction or anything, if you are fighting with yourself, responsibility is this annamaya kosha. Whatever may be the reason for your fight with you, the responsibility is the samskaras which you bring from the animal body. | ||
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+ | [00:15] | ||
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+ | Now we are going to give the opportunity for all those samskaras, engrams to leave you all those personalities, the animal layers which you brought. Another one big problem is you have a mixture of all animals, little little from every animal!! Whatever animal body you, little little is left over in you. In the vedic astrology jyotisha the last animal from which you took the jump, they will be able to predict based on your birth time. You may feel, “What is this”? It’s true. It is true. More part of your engrams from which body you brought can be very clearly detected. They can diagnose by seeing your birth time. It’s a big science. It is a big science. If you know little bit of astrology you will understand what I am saying. | ||
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+ | [01:28] | ||
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+ | And I have seen at least one hundred cases that animal quality will be there in that person throughout his life. Whether he is standing or sitting or walking or eating or drinking or during the anger or lust or anything, that animal quality will be there. He will not even know how to fulfill that. And he will always feel unfulfilled. Now it is time to actualize your self and fulfill those engrams and be empowered by the samskaras, be empowered by those engrams and just escape from the vasanas. | ||
+ | Understand when you are empowered by the power of engrams you will be liberated from vasanas. The vasanas cannot be active if you just separate the power and vasana. If you separate the energy which makes you come out your bed and goes to the kitchen and take coffee from the picture coffee, you will have only that emotion, that energy, but not the vasana, the picture. | ||
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+ | [02:57] | ||
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+ | Understand the difference between these two. Only then you will be able to enter into this meditation. Unless you understand the truths you will not be able to enter into the process. Understanding is also an important thing for the process. Just for technique you don't need understanding. Do it, you will have the result. But this is not just a technique, it is a process. | ||
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+ | [03:22] | ||
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+ | Upanishad - where you need to understand, where the shravana, clear understanding, clear listening is required, then go through the process - manana. You will be surprised, in vedic tradition there is no meditation, only manana - means the process. No meditation. It’s called manana. | ||
+ | Now you will give life to the animal who is inside you. You may think, “How will I find out? How will I know which animal is inside me?” Any animal you feel connected enough. Start and you will see so many animals coming out. They will be just fighting. No, really! Now you will see in few minutes this will become a zoo. 😀 No, this will literally become a zoo. All animals will be coming out. You can start with any animal and you can allow any animal to come in between and you can end with any animal. No problem. But you should not be a human being till the process is over. You may ask, “First You took away our job, then our career, then our gender, now the birth itself!” I am taking away everything which is not you. So that you will have you. Whatever can be removed from you, let it be removed as early as possible. Better for you the earlier they are removed. | ||
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+ | [05:16] | ||
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+ | You can start with any animal. First you have to stand like them 😀… no, with clothes only. You have to be just live that animal life. Whether your anger or lust or greed, any emotion which makes you fight with you, anything which you think you are not able to handle, all those things are from that animals only. | ||
+ | For example, you are not able to control your anger. Now enter into any animal body. For example, you may feel connected to lion. Just become a lion and be angry like a lion… literally. Nobody is going to see you, no photography, no videography. Because I will be frightened. Nobody is going to see you. Literally just become that animal. Just become that animal. | ||
+ | You don’t know how powerful this process will be. How it will liberate you from so many problems which you are suffering, with which you are dying. You must be suffering with some problems from 10-12 years. This one session is enough to liberate you. This one session will heal you, I tell you. I have seen people coming out of not just physical diseases, years of addictions and the mental problems like a… no self confidence… see you don’t have self confidence because you are not able to win yourself. You are not able to do what you want to do within you. All those difficulties will just disappear, melt away when this animal is given the satisfaction, when this animal feels completely total, it leaves your system. | ||
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+ | [07:30] | ||
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+ | Understand human existence, human body is not completely owned by you. The body which you are having, you are not the complete owner. That is why you are not able to completely control it. You are not the owner. There are so many fellows who are sitting inside without paying the rent. No, really! All these fellows are sitting inside. Each one is telling, “Hey this is my portion, get out; and this my portion get out.” And those fellows start fighting with each other and you are not able to do anything. And you are like a person who is married to 4-5 woman. And you have to talk for this guy and that guy and that guy whoever is in front of you. You talk for them, that's all. “Oh nothing like you, yes, yes, yes.” | ||
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+ | [08:21] | ||
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+ | So many engrams, so many samskaras we are just working on the prarabdha. Prarabdha means the major portion of the karma which you brought when you created this body. When you created this body, the engrams and samskaras which you brought, we are working on it. Means the annamaya kosha, the first layer. See, the base metal, base material with which you created the first layer. We are working on it. Then we will work on one by one. We will do the process. First we are going to do the process on annamaya kosha - the material out of which you created this body, this layer. | ||
+ | See, understand the meditation, understand the process very clearly. Assume any one animal, take up any one animal. You don't have to think, “How will I know which is the right animal for me?” Start with any animal because whatever animal is inside that will come out within few minutes. All you need to do is break from this human idea that you are a human being. That’s all. Once you break from that the whole thing will come out. These are all very esoteric mystical process done only when a disciple is really interested and intensely wants to experience the higher consciousness or enlightenment. That is why these techniques, these methods are not available in common for mass. | ||
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+ | [10:11] | ||
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+ | You may think in our religion we never learnt this. Understand in religion you will never learn this. Only in spirituality you will learn this. These are the methods from the esoteric traditions where the enlightenment science is kept alive, where the living stream is maintained. Fortunately still it is available and you are fortunate to drink that divine nectar from the source, from the source. You may think what will I gain out of this process? That only you have to experience and see. You can only see it, how many things can happen in you. | ||
+ | I have seen so many people coming out of arthritis, so many disorders related to body just once, once…. only once they go through this process, they just come out. And so many sexual disorders they come out. That problem is nothing; you have not allowed the animal who is in you to live and leave you. You have not liberated that animal from your system. You might have taken the human body but you never liberated it. You never allowed those engrams to be completely out of your being, out of the system. They are sitting there inside constantly ruling your whole day and night. See, when they are sitting inside they don’t keep quite. They are ruling your whole life. They are directly indirectly guiding your whole life and all your activities. | ||
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+ | [12:17] | ||
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+ | Why do you want to suffer with some engram without even knowing, without even having control over it? Just enter into the process you will see the relief or the new space, new energy which happens to you. Unless you enter you will not have confidence. Now you will have so many questions, “How can I do?” Because you can ever imagine you becoming some animal. Even when kids play like as if they become elephant and walk on all fours you laugh. You can ever imagine you will be able to do that. Now you can do it. Now you can do it. Just live, of course I have seen people always frozen doesn’t want to get out, doesn’t want to get out of their frozen identity and they will just sit, hm, hm, hm. Then you must be a buffalo. At least live in that body. At least live that body. What can be done? No, I have really seen, even the simple meditation techniques earlier; of course now it is not even a technique, it is a process which needs your 100 % commitment. | ||
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+ | [13:45] | ||
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+ | Technique doesn’t need 100% commitment how much you do you will get that much of result, that’s all. Even in techniques I have seen. If you say hum as intensely as possible, they will say mmm… mmm 😵. Now if you do that then be very clear you are a buffalo. You were a buffalo. Not you were, you are and at least live in that buffalo body. Just sit silently with the legs crossed 😩 because buffaloes will be always swallow, eating something. Maybe chewing gum I don't know. So, at least do that and just sit. | ||
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+ | [14:43] | ||
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+ | Till we finish the process throughout this process all I want you to do is forget you have human existence, human body. Live as some animal. Any animal will do. Suddenly in few minutes you will see you are feeling connected to one animal strongly. That one animal is again and again coming out. Maybe snake or bird or elephant or lion or whatever it may be. Sometime you will feel like a some animal which you never heard or seen. You will feel even that kind of a .. Let everything come out. Live. Just live as that and move your body or do any activity just like that animal and don't just keep quiet. No animal will keep quiet except human beings. No, no animal will keep quite usually. It will be doing something or at least moving the body except the time it sleeps. Now I am not asking you to sleep. I am taking you… I am asking you to take that new animal body and live intensely. | ||
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+ | [16:00] | ||
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+ | All the emotions which gives you the peak experience like a anger, lust - all those peak experience emotions should be lived inside that animal body. Because all your peak experiences are driven by those animal samskaras. Now, live inside that animal body and live those peak experiences like anger, violence or lust or anything. Only one thing, you will not disturb the other person. You can’t touch the next person who is next to you. You can't disturb, except that you are free to do anything. You are free to do anything. | ||
+ | It will be .. you will see that it is a intense catharsis of samskaras. Don’t even think it is just a psychological catharsis, like a.. in the west they use techniques for psychological catharsis. They ask you to shout and scream and punch the bag and all those things. No. That is just catharsis for emotion. This is catharsis for samskara, the kosha itself. So the very base itself we are working. This will be 1000 time more effective than any psychological catharsis, any psychological treatment. Those things can only do little bit of cosmetic surgery. But this is completely the whole personality will be transformed. Are you very clear about the technique? I think now I have explained very clearly about the process, the whole process is clear. | ||
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+ | [17:58] | ||
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Title:
Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master || Part 1 || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention: Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master Part 1
Session on: Atma Spurana
Date: 24 March 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, CA, US
In this video Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam explains to the delegates about the importance of why it is important to drop our identities and then come as a open book to receive knowledge from an Enlightened being. HDH takes them into a deeper understanding of how holding on to our identities only lets us live a life of comparison and competition. Humanity needs to realize that in an effort to identify our ourselves with the outer world and family conditioning we are drifting away from the path of enlightenment. This is why it is important to make most of the opportunity when an enlightened master comes in our lives.
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[00:14]
Sadāshiva samārambhām Shankarāchārya madhyamām | asmat āchārya paryantām vande guru paramparām || [00:51] I welcome you all with My love and respects. How many of you are here who are attending first time our meditation workshops. Wow! So, I welcome you all into our family. Once more… the first program, you see… the first program the beauty is let Me be very honest still I don’t know what I am going to speak and what we are going to do. 😊 And people who have done earlier who have done the first NSP or the first ASP they know that. I think nobody is here who has done first ASP. It has happened five years ago. But there are a few who have done first NSP. I think the first NSP also started the same way. But again something happens and… nice.. It’s like a, none of our programs are designed. They are revealed. There is a big difference between the designing and revelation.
[02:26]
Let us understand this first. This is the first thing which we need to understand. Designed means: having the information what the customer wants and what is supposed to be supplied. And how best way the packaging can be done, what is the interest of the product. Means, what do you want to give and how you want to market. With all this information, with all this data, product is created and marketed. Revelation means only one thing is in the picture - need of the customer. That's all, nothing else. What the person needs, nothing else is in the front. And the truth as it should be expressed comes out.
[03:31]
Just … just now the car… one of our ashramite was talking. They went to attend some personality development seminar. We have been invited to do one of our meditations in their seminar. He was telling, “Swamiji, I was shocked because the stuff which they have is nothing, but the marketing they do is amazing.” He said that the whole stuff what they deliver during that program, we deliver in one session. So, never…. we spent all our time in creating the products, not marketing. Designing is different, revelation is different. If it is a designed program, you don’t need any preparation. Because it is revelation means the truth. You need just few preparation. First thing I am not going to waste time in unnecessary intellectual arguments, giving you more and more words. See, if you want words, I have published so many volumes, hundreds of volumes, we have published two hundred volume in twelve languages. Read them all. We have more than eight hundred DVDs published. Eight hundred DVD and two hundred volumes. Just play with them all.
[05:25]
Now these two days I do not want to waste by giving more words. Let us straight away start the work towards the process. So, do not expect too much of words. Do not waste your time with too much of words; not only not expecting from Me, you also do not waste your time in too much of words like whenever you find time, start chatting. That’s a basic trend especially Indians. That's a big disease. So try not to waste too much of time in just chatting. Atma spurana - flowering of your - ‘Self’. Understand. The ultimate consciousness which is in you that is always overflowing. That is a eternal flower. We don’t need to work on it. But something which is between that Self and us - Your body, your mind, your emotions, these few things, these few sheaths we call koshas. Only these few koshas needs to flower, needs to open, needs to radiate, needs to fall in tune.
[07:2]
Understand. The ultimate self itself does not need anything. But the instruments with which you experience the Self needs flow…. needs to flower. They need to open up. They need to experience the truth. You have the five layer… one more thing I wanted to tell you, if you have done NSP do not think it is like NSP. No. In NSP we work on the samskaras, engrams printed on the seven layers. Now we are going to work on the very koshas, very layers not just on the engrams. In NSP you worked on the painting. Now we are going to work on the canvas on which the engrams or paintings are painted. Koshas the five layer: First layer, the first body which you carry is annamaya kosha - the physical body with flesh bones. Second, Pranamaya - the breathing, the prana movement happening in you. Third manomaya - the inner chattering happening in you. Fourth vijnanamaya - the emotion, intense emotion happening in you. Fifth ultimate anandamaya - the peace which you experience or the joy which you experience.
[09:10]
Now all five layers need to be purified so that it constantly radiates enlightenment. One more thing please understand, in NSP we work on the samskaras, means the engrams which is printed on koshas, on the layers. Now we are going to work on the very koshas, very layer itself, on the very canvas itself. The experience which is the base for all these great spiritual revelations, the experience which is supposed to be the pramana… Pramana means, the scale to measure whether something is truth or not. Experience - anubhava is the base for this whole truth. Only when you experience you will be able to understand completely. That is the only way to realize the truth as it is. So, first few basic things whatever knowledge you had already some intellectual stuff if you keep it aside and sit with open, as a open being it will be easy for Me to help you. Do not waste your money by sitting here with all the old knowledge which you collected and did not become experience.
[11:26]
Understand I am not talking just the meditation or other programs which you attended somewhere else. Even My programs whatever you learnt, whatever has not become experience do not carry, do not keep that in your head now. Whatever has become experience you will not keep it in your head. That would have left your head long ago. It will be in the being, it will not be in the head. So, whatever is in the head has not become experience. Understand, keep them all little aside, sit in a completely relaxed way. You can be more free and relaxed. One more thing, when you don’t have too many things in the head you will not feel things are old. If you have too many things in the head, your mind will say, “No, no, I know this. I know that.”
[12:27]
One guy was trying to prepare for a presentation. Somehow he managed, came and did his presentation. The whole group, all the audience enjoyed except one professor, high intellectual. End of the presentation this guy asked that professor, “You didn’t find anything new, you didn’t enjoy this.” The professor said, “I know every word which you uttered is taken from a book. I will send you that book tomorrow. Every word which you used is there in that book.” He was shocked. And he said, “No, I can’t believe.” Professor said, “I will give you that book tomorrow.” Next day the professor sent the book. The book was dictionary. 😊 Understand. Your mind also will play the same cunning role. I know everything he is talking. I have read in that book, I have read in this book. I heard here, I heard there. Your mind will always be telling. Your mind will always take things for granted, if you are sitting with a big head or the knowledge which has not become experience.
[14:02]
I always tell people, spending years and years in just acquiring knowledge is a mere waste. If you can work towards one experience, you see, experience means being convinced beyond your logic that ultimate truths are livable, Ultimate truths are reality. That is what I call experience. Understand, convinced beyond your logic that ultimate truths are livable and reality is what I call experience. Sometime people who are little innocent as I was telling in yesterday’s class, yesterday’s program, people who are innocent, it clicks very easily. Sometime people who doesn’t want to get rid of their knowledge, people who have vested interest in their knowledge, it takes ages and ages. Now one more thing, it’s really rare to get presence of an enlightened Master. In those days I will not talk very openly. In those days even people ask Me, I used to tell ‘yes, yes it’s all divine grace.’ Just I will try politely to avoid. But now I am very clearly telling you, very clearly telling you it is very difficult, and very rare to get a presence of an enlightened Master.
[15:46]
I am enlightened. I am very clearly telling you, with a clear words and do not miss it. If you have the doubt or not able to feel connected at least sit in your house and waste your time, not here. The problem is, see the anybody who can just pay the money if they come and sit inside and not able to feel connected or sit. That’s the reason I always recommend people come for one or two discourses. And if you feel connected then come and sit, so that you will not waste other’s time. Because we are going to work as a group. We are going to work as a group. Even if few people are not completely in tune, feeling connected, then they will just become like an island. I always tell people if you feel that you are like an island not able to connect with the whole thing happening… Because mind has got its own frames, its own frames. Like a... how can enlightenment can happen in such a young age? God is not going to ask you to certify. Can I give enlightenment to him? Surely not. And we have our own ideas, our own thoughts, our own frame.
[17:22]
If you can drop all those few things, especially whatever now I am saying is for the new people. With people who have attended, already attended some of our programs they know it. And they are, they already had some experience, that is the reason they are again here. And people who are new for them I am saying let you be completely open and ready to receive, you will see miracles happening inside you. It’s very rare to get a presence of an enlightened Master, Living Presence; such a great opportunity, such a strong possibility, you are near such a great possibility. So, do not waste it with small, small thoughts and small, small ideas and small, small arguments. I have seen many people, they waste their time being around, when they are around Me, in arguments. And after I leave the country or when I am not there, then they sit and repent, ‘Oh God, I think I wasted my time in such a petty thing.’ Because when you come first in front of any person you wanted to poke and see who he is or his capabilities.
[18:45]
Title:
Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master || Part 2 || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention: Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master Part 2
Session on: Atma Spurana
Date: 24 March 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, CA, US
In this video Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam explains to the delegates about the importance of why it is important to drop our identities and then come as a open book to receive knowledge from an Enlightened being. HDH takes them into a deeper understanding of how holding on to our identities only lets us live a life of comparison and competition. Humanity needs to realize that in an effort to identify our ourselves with the outer world and family conditioning we are drifting away from the path of enlightenment. This is why it is important to make most of the opportunity when an enlightened master comes in our lives.
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[00:15]
In such a petty thing… because when you come in front of any person you wanted to poke and see who he is or his capabilities. And let you be very clear now we don’t have time to do all these small games. And one more doubt usually these professional seekers means their profession itself is only seeking. Going here, there, here, there. Always they have a question, “I am initiated by that person, this guru. Can I attend? Can I have initiation? Can I learn from You”? I have no problem at all. I always tell people I have no problem at all. According to Me I have come to fulfill, to complement not to contradict. Complementing is the basic thing. I have come to complement not to contradict. I have no problem at all. If you are initiated by anybody or disciple of anybody I have no problem at all. And if he has got a problem you should check with him. If he has got a problem of you coming to Me I have no… that you have to check with him. From My side I have no problem at all. From My side, one more thing, even after you being initiated I always not only encourage, I recommend, go to all sources and learn whatever you can. Go to all possible sources and learn, enrich your life. Afterall the whole purpose is enriching your being, enriching your life. So, if at all you can add something more to yourself, you are free to do so. And not only that, I encourage you to do so. Go round pluck flowers from all garden and make a beautiful bouquet for you, that's all.
[02:10]
Two thing you need to understand: enriching your life is an amazing thing but do not go around with a ego. See, when people come to Me, they come and tell Me, “I am with this Master for last twenty years.” So, naturally now I have to respect you as a representative of that Master. Do not go to anybody with that ego. When you go out don’t claim that you are My representative. No. Go as a student and learn. Don’t go as a Master, go as a student and learn. Whenever you go to somebody, go as a student. That will help you not as a representative of somebody. I have seen many people coming to Me and they want to learn but they want some special place. They say I was with him. I am with him. I am his disciple. So now I have to represent… I have to respect him because he is representative of that Master. So, in that way you can’t learn from Me. If you are sitting here as a representative of somebody you can’t learn. No. Sit as a student. When you go somewhere else also go as a student. You will learn, you will be helped. If you are a student you will always be helped. If you go as a … go with an big ego then you can’t be helped. I always encourage you to go to all possible sources and learn as a student, as a disciple, not just as a representative of some organization or with an ego. So, you are free to learn, to study or even to have initiation. In none of our literature even the literature which is given to you during healing initiation, you won’t find a word ‘don’t go to other Master’s’. No. You are here to learn. Actually there will be line, ‘Please go to all the sources and learn. Enrich yourself more.’
[04:29]
These are the few things and one more thing, be little more flowing for next two days. You are in a safe blissful zone. So, you are not here just to be frozen, to be too serious, and nobody is here to exploit you or you are … you don’t have any threat, you are in a complete safe and secured zone. Just be little relaxed, little open. People are constantly holding their identity just to… just because they feel insecured, threatened. You see, deep down all of us have got a desire to be in a place where you don’t need to hold on your identity. For example when you see a beach or a resort, or a snow covered mountain in website or TV or in photograph, you always feel you should be there in that spot, and you visualize, fantasize you just sitting in a boat and enjoying that ambience. You always visualize. But when you go to that spot actually you don't feel that joy or the ecstasy which you always fantasized you will have it. When you think of Miami it is fantastic not when you live there. That’s always true. Why? Because the desire is to be in a place where you don’t need to hold an identity.
[06:30]
See now, when you are sitting here and visualizing that Miami or the snow covered mountains, you always know that there is nobody there who knows you. You are new to that place. You don’t have to hold on to your identity for survival. It’s a freedom from identity which you are searching, not changing place, changing space. Understand very deeply. This truth will help you to have vacation here and now. Your desire for vacation is nothing but desire to be away from your identity. But when you go there without knowing that truth you start, you try to establish your identity there also. In two days you will establish your identity. Do you know who am I? Do you know who am I? Do you know who am I? And in two days you are in your same hell. You are ready with your hell. Now these two days try to have the real vacation, means moving away from your identity. First move away from your friends and family. Do not sit next to them. Do not sit next to your friends, next to your family just move away from them. If you are sitting next to them constantly you have to react as they want. I have seen husbands do not laugh completely when they are sitting with wifes. Every time they have to ask permission. If she laughs he also hee.. hee.. hee.. 😊. He can’t, he has to see, she has to see. And not only that constantly it’s like you hold on to that identity. You can’t even look at somebody else. No, I am not telling you to do that but just … just looking very, little clearly is nothing wrong. And you are bound so much if your eyes are just settling on somebody what is there? Arrey I am not just.. So, so much of bondage is not required. Just for two days you can be a little away and relaxed.
[09:26]
Another one important thing, when you are sitting with your family or friends constantly you will be reminded that identity which you are carrying, identity which you are carrying, identity which you need to protect. You have your own standard, you have created an idea about you in that person, you have to maintain that. Your body language, your words, everything has to fit with that. These two days, understand this is the first meditation technique I am giving for you. One more thing, I can’t use the word meditation technique. It is again the word which is abused. This word has been abused in the west. Enough! And what all they call it in the name of meditation technique, I am surprised. Anyhow, these two days workshop is neither going to be with meditation techniques nor going to be no technique. How it is going to be? You will see it. No technique and no no-technique. I have done enough programs with techniques. ASP, NSP all are with technique. And I have done enough programs with no-technique; dhyana spurana, nithyanandam. All are no-technique. Understand I have done programs with techniques and with no-techniques. Now neither technique nor no-technique. The moment I say technique your mind has already planned that I will practice in the home regularly. I should collect music CD. It is not going to have any quality of technique. If you do it in the home it will not work. Let Me be very clear. Neither technique nor no-technique. Technique means you have to try, do it again and again. Technique is a beautiful way of cheating a disciple.
[11:43]
See, these incompetant Gurus who don't have capacity to give the truth, these idiots created techniques to cheat the disciples. See, already they took money from disciples. Now the disciple will question, “Hey, you promised, you are not giving what to do”? Then give some techniques and tell them, ‘Do this everyday. Blow your nose twenty times.’ And if you come back after two years, “No, I did nothing happened.” “No, no you should blow the air through some other way also. You did not listen the instructions properly. You missed it.” Technique is the beautiful way of postponing. No, ugly way of postponing. Second thing no-technique. No-technique is also one more technique. No-technique means you don’t have to do anything. But now neither we are going to work with technique nor no-technique. We are going to work with upanishad. Understand, this whole program is based on a upanishad. Upanishad means sitting. The exact word, meaning…. the meaning of the exact word upanishad means sitting with a enlightened being. That’s all. Sitting with enlightened being is neither technique nor no-technique.
[13:27]
Technique means you should be practicing, no you can’t practice this. No-technique means ‘not doing’. It’s not that you are not going to be not doing anything. It is called Upanishad. Neither technique nor no-technique. It is just transmission. It is just a clear connection. So, for this we need basic requirement - feeling connected. Even if you are not able to completely throw away your doubts, decide for these two days you will strongly believe, you will strongly trust, you will strongly work with the Master. That’s all. See, completely all the doubts will disappear only when you become enlightened. Now decide that you will put more part of your energy, major part of your energy, you will put maximum possible energy towards the direction of working with the Master.
[15:00]
You have two path: you can put your energy to working or to doubting. Just doubting and wasting time. Now I am asking you to put your energy more towards working. Let us work. Why waste time? And if you are doubting I need to waste lot of time in convincing you and proving you. And I already wasted enough of time in convincing people. I have convinced twelve lakh people around the world. Twelve lakh means 1.2 million, that’s the number of initiated disciples. So, I have convinced twelve lakh - 1.2 million in four years. So, be very clear in that 1.2 surely there are more intelligent people than you. So, I have enough method and technique to convince much more intelligent people than you. Then surely I have enough method. So, just relax from the head and do not bother too much about the intellectual knowledge and stuff on words. Why I have to tell so many things? Why I have to take so much time? Because in the west this is a big problem; people waste so much of time in the words, so much of time in the intellectual jugglery.
[16:31]
The other day I went to one of our devotee’s house. That devotee’s daughter, she was telling Me, “I will do whatever my mom says but I should be convinced I will ask why”? I just wanted to ask her then whatever you are doing you are convinced? You know very clearly logically what you are doing. No, with other things we are not interested, bothered about logical conviction… logically getting convinced. But when it comes to spirituality we are too cautious. I wanted to ask her you must be smoking or drinking. Are you logically convinced it is good for you? There are so many things people are not logically convinced. But they do it. But here when it comes to spirituality, too cautious. Spending too much of time too much of energy in just intellectual jugglery because they do not want to enter into the reality. It’s a cunning way of postponing the reality.
[17:37]
See, you have to claim yourself spiritual but you are not ready to transform the life. So, just play with the knowledge. Playing with the knowledge is a nice way of postponing the reality. Now, these two days, you see, now I told you that I am enlightened, very clearly, verbally. India means I would have told very clearly ‘I am god.’ Let Me be very clear. But you fellows are not worthy of receiving the truth. That’s why I stopped with ‘I am enlightened’. I am telling you very clearly you are spoiled, corrupted so much with unnecessary words, unnecessary ideas. In India means I would have started that way only.
[18:31]
In the west people waste too much of time in words, then going for experience, then going for the truth. Instead of working on the truth straight away, working on the reality straight away, Ramakrishna says beautifully, people who go into the mango garden and do a big survey, research. How many types of mango is there? What.. what is the production cost? What is the sales cost? And what is the income? How many trees? How many branches? How many leaves? And the statistics. All those things he comes out. He is intelligent or the guy who goes and enjoys few mangoes and rests and comes out?
[19:14]
Title:
Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master || Part 3 || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention: Drop Your Identity & Sit With The Master Part 3
Session on: Atma Spurana
Date: 24 March 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, CA, USA
In this video Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam explains to the delegates about the importance of why it is important to drop our identities and then come as a open book to receive knowledge from an Enlightened being. HDH takes them into a deeper understanding of how holding on to our identities only lets us live a life of comparison and competition. Humanity needs to realize that in an effort to identify our ourselves with the outer world and family conditioning we are drifting away from the path of enlightenment. This is why it is important to make most of the opportunity when an enlightened master comes in our lives.
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Transcript:
[00:14]
Not straight away going towards the reality, towards the truth. Whole time is spent in project planning, project plan, project plan, deadline, project plan, deadline; no work is done. No, really. Here you are paid if you know how to frighten or threaten your boss that job will not happen without your past.. your presence. All you need to do is just make a big words and half an hour presentation in a laptop threaten your boss that this will not happen without me. First thing you have to say “It will not happen at all.” Second thing, “It may happen if I am there.” Third thing, “Even with me I have to give my whole life, only then it will happen.” Then now you are ready for payment. That’s all. So, too much of words. The Ayurveda system failed because they never learnt how to frighten a patient. They never learnt how to threaten a patient. How to exploit the patient’s fear. They were all healing, they were so soothing. Constantly they were giving only confidence and courage; so naturally patient will not come back. They don’t have a constant publicity. ‘If you have this, better check for that. If you have this small symptom, even if you don’t have, why not you have a check up? Call now, call your doctor now and talk to your doctor now about this medicine.’ And in a low voice all these things are side effect you may die soon. If you have this problem, that problem this and that in a low voice, in a small letter. Ayurveda never learnt how to threaten people, how to frighten people. When you go there also, the doctors never threaten you, doctors never give you the insecurity. That's the problem with ayurveda. That is why it has not become a big successful system. Here we waste too much of time in the words, in the verse, in the words.
[02:43]
Now also I can see when I said that in India means I would have said…. I would have started with the word ‘I Am God’. There are many people, “Oh God what is He telling?” That is why I did not start with that word. You understand, that is why I did not start with that word. That is the reason you have to sit with Me. And I have seen people, so many people having the experience without going through any technique or program. Just the other day one of our devotee, she passed away, in US only. She has never done our program NSP but she has achieved far more deeper state than the people who have done NSP, than the people who have done NSP. Actually I went to heal her, means just to bless her before she passed away. After healing I turned towards her feet and did namaskar. When I came out in the … these all only My close guys who live with Me only can watch. These moments devotees can’t watch. One fellow who is closely living around Me, he asked in the car, “What is this Swamiji? You did namaskar to her, towards her feet. Why”? And she has not done any program. All she had done is she heard about Me and felt connected, that's all. She has seen Me only once.
[04:17]
I said why I did namaskar to her feet… in Bhagavata there is a beautiful story. Krishna was painting the feet of Radha with mehandi means that a hm… whatever you call. Anyhow Krishna was painting the feet of Radha with some decoration, cosmetics, maybe those days manicure and pedicure eh what you call hmm. Anyhow, that is the 😊 what is the name? Pedicure. Anyhow hmm.. those days pedicure. So, Krishna was doing that to Radha. These Rishis, jealous fellows and they are asking, “What! How can you do that to a girl? You may be in love with her. But you are God. How you can touch the feet of somebody, some girl. It is too much. We can’t digest this. Our God touching some girl’s feet.” Actually their ego is hurt. They are touching somebody’s feet and He is touching somebody else’s feet. That is too much for them. Now it is like they are indirectly touching Radha’s feet, which they do not want. See that is the real problem. That is the real problem. And they said how can you do that? Krishna says beautifully, understand, “She is more connected to Me because of her devotion than this body connected to Me. So, this body feels shy and does, offers the respect to her feet.” Understand. She is more connected to Me, than this body is connected to Me, so this body is feeling shy and offering the respect to that body, to that person. If you understand this one thing, the atma spurna is done. Nothing else. Krishna says “She is more connected to Me than this body is connected to Me. I feel she is more close to Me than this body. That is why this body is touching her feet and offering the devotion, respect.’
[07:05]
This has got so many truths this one sentence. One thing: He is beyond this body. Second thing: the feeling connected happens only by a deep trust or surrendering or relaxing. And the third thing: when devotion happens to you, you become much more than God. Understand, when a devotion happens to you, you become much more than God. That is what you need to understand by this one sentence, one statement. So, I told the same thing to our … the person who was driving Me. So, I felt already that she is more connected to Me than this body itself just because of her simple faith and devotion.
[08:04]
And the same way she left the body so beautifully, so gracefully, so gracefully she left the body. She has not done any program. The only reason I can say, she is from the Indian tradition. She was not trained with the intellectual or the ways of the logic, ways of the logic. One more thing, there are many people who are from India, don’t think you are from Indian tradition. No. You are not from Indian tradition. There are many people from west. Don’t think you are just western logic person. No. It is not based on the birth of the country. It is based on the, the Being, the quality of your Being. Do not think all the people who took birth in west are westerns. No. And all westerners who are here are Indians. That’s why you are here. That is why you are here. And all the Indians who are here don’t think you are Indians. Relax. You are here, don’t think you are Indians. I can assure all the people who are from west who are here are in tune with the Indian tradition. That’s why you are here. But not all the Indians. And at least for NRIs.
[09:39]
Anyhow, so the first thing I want to tell you… not technique, first thing. Let Me coin a new word, the first, maybe you can use - first upanishad means the sitting. These two days drop from your identity. If you are a doctor, think yourself as a engineer. If you are lawyer, think yourself as a doctor. Just change your identity. Just relax from your identity for these two days. Understand you don't know the freedom you will experience. You don’t know the freedom you will experience. Just for two days decide I am not going to prove my identity. I am not going to hold onto my identity. Just two days be a Paramahamsa. Paramahamsa is a person who says very clearly… Paramahamsa means ‘mad’. The word literally means. Instead of society calling Me, I Myself say I am mad, so that I am free. No, I don’t have to just follow one idea, one mold. I give only one guarantee - I will not hurt you. That’s all. But I am not interested in proving any identity. I am not interested in proving any identity to you. That is why I don’t even use the word Swami. This swami word is associated with too much of identity, too many problems, too many difficulties. That is why I never use that word Swami. Paramahamsa means liberated.
[11:29]
You can also live the life of liberation for these two days. For next two days do not carry your identity, means try to avoid to sit with your family or friends, try even to avoid talking. Try to avoid talking, because if you start talking you will have to bring the same identity back and you will have to talk in the same way. You will be in the same track. Two days relax, do not carry the identity, do not carry your same stuff, ideas. Just be somewhere, just be like a vagabond. Hippies are the people who are very close to enlightenment. All they need is little meditation, that's all. That’s all, nothing else. These two days relax from identities. Relax from proving the identity, just be completely relaxed. Don’t bother. You will see so much can happen in you. So much of transformation can happen in you. You will be a new Being, new person when you leave the hall.
[12:47]
So, great opportunity to sit, experience upanishad. Now you are going to experience upanishad, such a great opportunity to experience upanishad from the very source of the tradition, from the very source, from the very root. So, all you need is only one thing relaxing from your identity. And if you don’t have one you are saved already. Half of the job is done. If you have one, then relax from it for next two days. Nothing else to be told. You are ready. All you need to do is relaxing from the identity so that the upanishad, the process itself can be started. The upanishad can be started. Now we will start the first thing initiation. Sit completely with a open Being. Even you can visualize, you can feel that you are open. Visualize that you are completely open; means like a, you are a flower fully opened, full blossomed, fully available, that you are totally relaxed. And just listen these few mantras. Understand I am going to chant the upanishad on which we are going to work.
[14:38]
Title
God can be Experienced, not Visualized || Atma Spurana || 25 March 2007
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(0:15)
(Swamiji reads a question) What is the meaning of God? Whatever you can visualize and what all you can't visualize is God.
(0:25)
Now it is time to work on Vijnanamaya kosha, do the process. Vijnanamaya kosha means knowledge, visualization. Now you are supposed to expand your visualization to that extent, to such extent, the vijnanamaya kosha relaxes completely. How to go about it? You have to visualize all the Cosmos. You have to go to the extreme where your visualization is completely tired or can't go further. It completely rests. If I tell you to visualize the planet earth and the moon and the sun, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize the whole Cosmos, you will do it. If I tell you to visualize beyond, beyond, beyond, what will you do? No, you can't visualize just... I will tell you, visualize beyond Me also. Then?
(01:39)
At some point, your visualization will become…. it won't be capable of functioning. It won't be able to travel. The Taittiriya Upanishad says where mind and words come back, unable to reach, that space has to be visualised. Actually we are working based on one upanishad- Taittiriya Upanishad. Many things are from that upanishad. Even the mantra is from that upanishad only…. Where your mind can't continue its logical process, where your inner space can't function.... See, your inner space is like a camera. It can capture anything. We should capture something which can’t be captured by your inner space. Then your vijnanamaya kosha, means the emotions or the recording of the emotions will have gap between your ego and itself.
(03:13)
Now whatever I try to explain, you guys will try to visualize…. Maybe, let’s work on it. Let’s work on visualizing which you can't visualize. Yado Vaso Nivartante means the Aprapya Manasa Saha. When mind and the visualization and the words come back without able to grasp, when they are not able to grasp and come back, that space to be meditated upon, that space has to be experienced for vijnanamaya kosha. Now be very clear, no sleep. No sleep. Actually, I am going to take you to the space either you will fall asleep or expand completely. Either you will fall asleep or expand. So now you should be very clear: no sleep. Sit in vajrasana. That is best thing. If you really have pain, you can sit on the chair. You don't have to sit in the vajrasana but no sleeping. On the chair you can't sleep. If you sleep you will fall. So no question of sleep.
(05:06)
See understand, see understand the truth behind this whole thing. Actually you cannot visualize enlightenment itself. Recently I saw that movie ‘Secret.’ These guys are telling that if you visualize anything you will achieve it. Enlightenment and all you can't visualize. You can't visualize Enlightenment and all. Enlightenment is supposed to happen. You can only visualize which can't be visualised means exhausting your vijnanamaya. Just using or taking the vijnanamaya to that extent where it can't do anything and completely liberates you and liberates itself.
(06:00)
Please close your eyes and tie the ribbon. Just go with Me. I will guide you. It will be more powerful than the…. all the things which you did from yesterday. No visualization. Just be inside your body. Don't imagine anything. Just feel your body. Expand. Now start visualizing just few inches more than your body. Visualize you are just few inches bigger than your body…. Feel, visualize this whole hall…. Include this whole hall into yourself, into your being. Feel all the people are sitting inside you. This whole hall is inside you…. Now expand and include this whole city inside yourself. Include this whole city in your being. Let this city be inside your being…. Expand, include this whole country into yourself. Expand, let this whole country be included in you…. Expand, let this whole planet earth be included in you. Visualize, feel whole planet earth is inside you. Let the whole planet earth be included into you. Not just imagining, feel it, see it…. Let the whole planet earth be included.
(10:28)
Expand, let the moon and the whole solar system be included into your being. Expand and feel the whole solar system is inside you. Feel it. Fill it. Let you be filled by it. Let it be filled by you…. Continue to expand. Let this whole Cosmos be included into your being. Let this whole Cosmos be inside you…. Expand, let the whole Cosmos be included into you. Expand, continue to expand beyond your visualization, beyond your mind. Expand, expand, expand. Just see the whole universe, whole Cosmos. Let the whole cosmos be filled by you. Expand, continue to expand…. Expand, continue to expand. Let the whole Universe be filled by you. Let you be filled by it.
(14:29)
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(17:45)
Title:
Owning Your Body || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention : Atma Spurana
Session on: Owning Your Body
Date : 24 March 2007
Venue : Los Angeles, CA, USA
In this video, the Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam answers some questions from the delegates of the Atma Spurana convention, in Los Angeles. His Divine Holiness shares the Vedic views on divorce, the truth about vegetarianism, and explains the difference between visions and darshans in the dream state. We also hear the experiences of the delegates after completing an intense meditation.
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(0:16)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Is using marijuana only a delusion? Or can it have a positive, spiritual, mental, physical effect? Swamiji: I think morning itself I answered. It has nothing to do with spirituality. Marijuana and intellect both are nothing to do with spirituality. Both will only waste your life.
(0:51)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Since You are enlightened do You plan to be born again in this world? Of matter and.... Swamiji: No, I decided I will not take one more birth. Enough but I am going to live quite a long time this time. I created the body to live for a long time but I am not going to come back once more.
(01:15)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Since divorce need to be avoided, how about having just partners without getting married? Swamiji: I have no problem. If it is... if both of you agree and your country agrees, who am I to disturb? It is up to you and if the country in which accepts legally… is it legal in this country? Okay, okay. So it is all up to you but vedic tradition we don't usually accept. We say that …why we say no divorce you know, just to tell you that again and again changing the outer man or woman is not going to help. Once try, when it does not workout, take Sanyas, that's all. So that is the reason in vedic tradition, they insist on no.... So...
(02:23)
So, some personal healing and personal question. Alright. We can spend little time maybe if you have any experience about the morning meditation. Two meditations we did. One is..... Two process, not even meditation, process like a living mriga sharira means the animal body and the pranamaya, just filing the pranamaya sharira. If you have any experience you can share or any question so that I can help you to go into the process further, tomorrow's process.
(03:09)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: Can a female become an enlightened master? Swamiji: Why not? There are so many women enlightened. Maitreyi, Gargi and so many from time immemorial we have women enlightened masters. No doubt.
(03:24)
(Swamiji reads a question) Question: One time you said dreams are mind’s way of resolving and expressing some conflict within us. So when You come to us in our dreams, is this related? Is this our doubts expressing or is this not related to conflict? Swamiji: If you see Me in your dream and if you are able to remember Me in multicolor, when next day morning when you get up, if you remember Me, you remember the dream full of four color, multi colors, colorful, then it is My Darshan. If you are not able to remember with color, just try to remember, are you able to.... Did you see the color of My cloth or just it is a black and white. If you have seen the color of My cloth, if it was colorful, then it is My vision… it is My Darshan. If it was not colorful, then it is not My Darshan, it is just a thought, it is just a dream. That is the scale. Any spiritual dream. Spiritual dream will be... will have a strong impact on your inner space. You will be able to recollect like a movie but ordinary dreams you will not be able to recollect like a movie. It will be just vague Indian Doordarshan…. Alright. If any of you want to share few words about your experience of the first meditation. Let us analyse few minutes on the first. Then we will send the mic.
(05:00)
Question: During the first meditation, You said to get intense and make sounds but I was never really into animals. So I was imagining being like a fish Swamiji: That is no problem. Just let your ... If your body is alive that is enough. That is enough. Fishes don't make sound. I think we don't hear, that's all. I don't think they don't make sound.
(05:27)
Question: Swamiji, I had a vision of a couple of animals while doing the meditations. Does that mean that I have taken those bodies? Swamiji: Yes sure, if it was a clear vision, if it was a vague or strong a clear vision, clear picture, literally clear picture, then surely it is a samskara. It means that those engrams are coming out. It is like your prarabdha is like a pandora box, pandora box. When you open, layer by layer it will come out. So you really opened. Good. Good job. If you had at least one violent experience that for few seconds you lost the idea that you are a man, then successful. You have done it. You have done it. See the purpose of this whole two day workshop, see, I have an idealistic goal, one thing and actual goal. There is another one thing. Idealistic goal is you getting enlightened but actual goal I know to what extent you will do. The technology itself is powerful enough to make you enlightened. But your capability to experience the technology, your capability to put yourself into it, with that I have a practical goal. At least complete rejuvenation and the engrams which you use in the day to day life, healing that. The engrams with which you suffer day to day life like a simple, basic diseases- Insomnia, tiredness or chronic fatigue, basic diseases, healing you out of that. The addictions and giving you the intense joy or the excitement.
(07:18)
See, the physical and mental healing is the practical goal. At least this will happen but the ideological goal is Enlightenment. So this is the idea behind the whole program. This opening, feeling at least for few minutes disconnected from the identity that you are a man, you allow at least the basic engrams which are constantly erupting in your life and attacking you which comes out the moment you lose your imbalance. Usually you lose your balance little in hunger or lust, during those moments. Those engrams will just come out first. Those layers will be healed. Even that will do so much of benefit. That will take care of you so much. That is the purpose. So even for two-three minutes, you did not remember at all that you have a human body, you have done it! We have done the meditation for quite a long time but at least two-three minutes if you have done, ok. One by one.
(08:27)
Question: So, conversely, when he actually saw figures of the animals, I guess what I had was.. Swamiji: No guessing. No, no, no guessing. Straight clear cut. No question of talking this sophisticated corporate language. Question: I had behavior of like wagging tail of a dog Swamiji: Yes, means you opened it, okay. You see, this sophisticated way of talking sometime they come to Me and I ask them, “Hey, did you do that work?” “No, I didn't get a chance.” What do you mean by the word you didn't get a chance? Tell clearly you didn't do. Using the polished words. Tell clearly you are a lazy dash dash and did not do. No, let it be very straight and instead of that having some taka taka taka taka words and very politely roundabout. Talking straight you should learn from Vivekananda. If you read Vivekananda's lectures He will be very straight. No question of this roundabout and using polished words and all. Very nice. It will be very nice if you learn how to talk very straight.
(09:54)
Question: I had lots of feeling like an eagle and goats and all kinds of other animals. And a very intense experience experiencing the monkey and it was the only animal where I really experienced intense aggressiveness. Swamiji: Means that your past when you took the jump. See, past means it need not be just your last birth will be monkey. No, last birth can be human being but the jump which you took, the last.... you might have taken three-four human births also. Now it may be fourth human birth but from the just before the human birth, monkey would have been the body you lived, you would have lived.
(10:38)
Question: Yes, so what happened was I got really aggressive so aggressive and I was like ok I am just going to let it go and then after that it was just finished. Swamiji: Beautiful. You will see now again when you become angry or when you are possessed by lust, you will not have violence, you will not have that animal thing. You will have a grace. You will have grace. Actually in our ashram big problem is, these fellows don't respect even if I become angry. Even if I shout at them, they go behind and talk, “He looks very cute even when He shouts.” No, these guys talk very clearly behind. You see, you will not be able to have that violence. That will be lost from you. Even when you become angry, you will not have that monkey violence which was sitting all these days in you. Now it will disappear and one more thing, quickly you will be able to come back from anger.
(11:49)
See, if the monkey is sitting inside, if you become angry, to come back, to settle down, it will take two-three days. Now if that animal is not there, you will become angry. Next moment it will just disappear. You won't have that mriga sharira inside. Your annamaya kosha, your body is not just your body. It was having so many prints together. Now we are working to make that body as your body, that's all. Bringing the whole thing under you so that you will live completely inside the body. It will be very pleasant feeling if body is owned by you.
(12:37)
Question: Is it okay to do just some visualization about the sound and movement? Do you still get results? Swamiji: Okay yes, yes, yes. Because for some people I said not to do physically. Those guys, yes okay because it is more working on the engrams only. Question: Is it a practice to be done… Swamiji: No no. No practice. It is just a process to be done here, that's all. But we will be working on the same in a deeper level by tomorrow.
(13:15)
Question: The animals that he ate in the past, will that... Swamiji: No, no, no. no, no. Animals which you ate will not be there. You see, the suffering.... No, no, no, no, no. The suffering recorded in that animal’s body, that suffering will be there in your body. The animal samskara itself will not be there. Whenever a animal is killed, it leaves tremendous suffering. You see, you are not eating the beef or a cow which has died naturally. You are eating after killing. So it is naturally a premature death for that animal. It is being killed. So it leaves tremendous suffering and depression, feeling of unfulfillment in that flesh. So, when you swallow those things naturally those same feelings will be recorded in you but the quality of that animal will not be there…. And I have seen really vegetarian people are less prone to depression.
(14:21)
See, I Am not for vegetarian because no vegetarian company is sponsoring Me. I Am not sponsored by any vegetarian food producers or companies. From My experience I tell you, I have done enough of research in the human consciousness, worked with more than million disciples. So I can tell you, surely the vegetarian food helps you, even if you are not a spiritual seeker, even if you are not a person who is interested in spirituality. Even to live a normal life, vegetarian food does a big help.
(15:04)
Question: Swami, I just want to know, when we are doing an exercise that is powerful, what is Your part in that exercise? Swamiji: Oh, My part! To open up. See, there are many hard nuts, to crack them. That is the first thing. Second thing, those karmas which is released, it has to disappear. Understand, and moreover those vacuum spaces which you are creating by releasing will be filled by My presence. Understand, it is a very esoteric presence, esoteric process. Usually when I explain these esoteric process, it seems like a I claim too many things. So better let Me not claim. Let the experience happen. Even the thing which I claimed today morning that I am enlightened I think few people are hurt. I saw one or two questions. “Why did You say? You could have allowed us to say.” Arey, you can't understand. Very clearly Krishna says in the Gita, “Unless I tell about Me you can't know. You will not know. Whatever you know about Me is less.”
(16:08)
If you attend two-three programs, you will understand, every program your understanding about Me is developing, expanding. The first level program, second level program, just try to attend two-three programs. You will understand, your understanding about Me expands. Krishna says very clearly, “Unless I tell about Me, you can't know. You will not know.” So there is no other way. I have to tell some time. Even if it hurts it is okay. It's a very esoteric process, Ma. See, now as on… before the meditation, you had the animal parts inside you, those engrams and vasanas. Now that will come out and the possibility of having an enlightened body will be recorded so that the moment you decide for the next body, when you have the choice to decide the next body, design the next body, you will design to be an enlightened master. You will ask for the best model. All the model which you saw, get the best model. Hey, Ha, this is right ok, let’s go ahead.
(17:12)
Question: Speaking on the food, how about plants? We kill plants to eat. Swamiji: See, I saw those… consciously I tried to scan and plants does not have so much of consciousness to suffer, to have experience pain but these guys experience pain, these animals. That is the thing.
(17:33)
Question: Same with eggs too or… Swamiji: Eggs also there is life. The possibility of life is there. With milk there is no possibility. People ask Me, “Swamiji, when milk comes from cow, egg comes from hen, why milk is vegetarian and egg is not vegetarian?” “If you sit on egg you want.... If you sit on milk you won’t get calf but if you sit on egg, you will get chicken.” And somebody may ask, “No, no, no, poultry egg?” Poultry egg may not have the male part but the feminine part of life is there. You understand, the possibility the feminine part, female part is there. So, the moment the possibility for life is there it becomes non-veg.
(18:22)
Question: Swamiji, I tried really hard to get angry in my meditation but I could not and I don't know if I was doing something wrong. Swamiji: I think you are not doing anything wrong. You are not able to open up means that you are not able to get rid of this strong identity. All right, at least next, next layers, decide that you are going to break. Even if it is like a acting in the initial level it is okay. For few minutes act, then you will see suddenly things open up.
(19:01)
Title:
Put Your Logic Down! || Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name Of The Convention : Atma Spurana
Session on: Put Your Logic Down!
Date : 24 March 2007
Venue : Los Angeles, CA, USA
In this video, the Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam answers some questions from the delegates of the Atma Spurana convention, in Los Angeles. His Divine Holiness shares his thoughts as the delegates share their experiences after completing an intense meditation.
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(0:14)
Swamiji: Next? Question: I am not sure of the animal I was in. I thought I did get the monkey and what I got was a very strong sense of being a wounded animal. Swamiji: Hmmm, it is good. Actually Ma, sometime you will feel an animal which is handicapped or which is not able to do. So even those karmas are good. Just work with this means the… you would have left the body because of some accident. You understand what I am saying? You would have died in that animal body because of some accident or suffering. You are able to understand what I am saying?
(0:58)
Question: Yes, but I don't even know what animal it was. Swamiji: That is okay, no problem. Just the lump of pain, just the feeling of suffering? Hmmm? Okay.
(01:09)
Question: Swamiji, I was getting so worried I see a lot of animals. All these animals- a lion, tiger, cat, everything. Swamiji: It is good. No, actually you are opening too many layers at a time immediately. It is good actually. See, you already did Nityanandam na? So lot of… your layers are very porous. It can be just opened easily. That is the reason you opened up so many things. Good. One more thing, somebody came and told Me that, “Swamiji, I felt I need more space. I wanted to drive away all the other animals.” One person was coming and telling Me. No, that is the way real animals feel. See, you can't make animals sit so close. No, you can't. No animal will sit so close continuously and all. They need their space. So it is good, means you are really get into that space.
(02:13)
Question: I want to ask about the wounded animal. During the meditation this morning I saw many many animals but I had three that kept repeating themselves. Swamiji: That three are…you must be having major samskaras from that three bodies.
(02:30)
Question: And two of them were wounded and the last time before You stopped, I felt myself licking my wounds. Swamiji: Beautiful. See, actually the animal... the animals heal like that only. They heal themself by licking only. So it means that you really got into that body. Beautiful. Nice. Ma, that…somebody asked what is My role being here? This all is My role means really pushing them, putting the whole logic to a silence and giving a strong instruction: let the whole group fall into that experience. That is the role of the Master. See, morning one hour I was talking. The introduction if you see, the whole introduction is about putting the ego, the logic down so that, that space to trust is created. More and more people can enter into that experience. Master is a possibility. He is a promise to open the door for more and more people.
(03:38)
Question: Swamiji, in this morning session I had the question that is there any relation between the nature of this birth and the animal nature? Swamiji: Yes, yes, yes. There is a strong connection. Even though you take a human body, you are not completely human being till you work out those samskaras, those karmas.
(04:06)
Question: I have so many times, I feel like I was a cow. So is it conscious or is it possible? Swamiji: It is possibility. It is a truth, not just a mind. One more thing, before the Gayatri, Gayatri initiation, the vedic tradition.... In the vedic tradition, Gayatri initiation is the first step towards spirituality. Before the Gayatri initiation, you will be made to do this Mriga Sharira Vasa continuously for 30-40 days in those days usually, but nowadays only three minutes you are supposed to do. In three minute what will you do? And it became like a ritual. That’s where the problem and in some initiation, they don't even tell that Mantra. The Mriga sharira vasa is not even done. That is where the ‘Yogo nasta parantapaha’- In course of time, the truth is lost.
(05:12)
Actually if you make these things kids to do, they will have sharper and clear experience because they have not… still they are not conditioned. In India, in our Gurukul and in our Little Anandas program, we have a program called Little Anandas. Fifteen days workshop, intense workshop. Now we made it as a twenty one days workshop for the kids who are below fourteen years, below fourteen. In India, usually the kids get physically measured by fourteen. So before that itself we wanted them to go through this process so that they will be out of everything. By the time they physically get matured, they will be human beings.
(05:54)
See, if the physical maturity happens as a human being, you will not fall too low and you will not be too much lust centered. You see, only animal, only animal which is lust centered throughout the year and twenty four hours the day is human being. See reality. No other animal is filled with lust throughout the year and twenty four hours. Just a small suggestion is enough, the human being is ready but no other animal... because when you live with nature, there is a period, there is a time, there is a mood, there is a mind’s ups and low… body’s ups and lows. Because the mind has interfered in our system, the body getting ready or all those things are just immaterial. Moment mind is ready, body has to be ready. That is the reason that we need to workout those animal engrams before the physical maturity. Then you will be more human being, not the human being as we are now.
(07:13)
As on now, we are not human beings. Maybe living In the human body but not human beings. Just the mind is living. That is why you are twenty four hours ready. You are not natural. Animals are sometime much better. So if you remove those animal engrams, you will not be just lower than animal. Now you are lower than the animal. It will be above, it will be beyond the animal existence. In those days, before they give the Gayatri, you see the… during the Gayatri they will tie a rope in the hip and give a Kaupeen, means the loin cloth. Before that itself they will make you go through all this mriga sharira vasa so that you will live a human existence by the time you are physically mature. You will be more graceful, more feeling fulfilled.
(08:14)
Question: In one of my animals I was a vulture and I was eating something and somebody came close and I had to really fight to not flap that person. Swamiji: Hmm, hmm, I understand. Question: And after that I stood up like a man. And the next thing I was another animal again. Swamiji: That is beautiful means that you are done, Ma. You have moved, you understand? You have moved.
(08:52)
Question: Swamiji, I was so afraid to be there with my eyes closed. I don't know the reality. I felt like never before. And I don’t want to be anymore. I was so scared. Swamiji: Just go with that fear. Question: I chanted the mantra Swamiji: No Mantra will help to get rid of the fear. Only facing the fear will work. Okay, I understand. It is good, okay.
(09:28)
Question: In the process is it okay to interact with other noises? Swamiji: You can interact with the other noises as long as you don't disturb the other person. Actually some animal will get irritated with the… when somebody else is shouting. Here I saw four-five guys shouting but they did not touch each other. So then I said okay, because it is your territory. Somebody enters your territory, you can't tolerate. In the Ashram also we have some animals. We don't tie them or keep like a pet how these countries they do. We don't tie them. They are just running around but even though they are free, they have their own territories. One guy will not enter into the other side and the other guy cannot come into this side.
(10:16)
And till I leave this territory, only this dog will follow Me, and after I leave this compound, this fellow will stop and that guy will come and start. Then only he will leave and he will not cross that gate. If he crosses, the fight will start. And that guy can't come inside to escort Me. If that guy comes inside, the fight will start. These two will be standing and this guy knows to what extent he can escort Me and he will stop. Then the next guy has to come and pick up. And if that guy doesn't come also, this guy will not cross the boundary.
(10:54)
Anyhow, the space. Alright. Now it is time that we end the session. Tomorrow morning we will start the process. We may spend little more time on discussing about the Pranamaya Sharira or the experiences during Pranamaya tomorrow. The essence of all these things, your experience is, go little more deeply into the meditation, next next process, that's all. If you experience something, beautiful, go into the process now. And it is not that, you will be stopping with this. This is just a good start, good beginning. Now you are supposed to be entering into the deeper level, the deeper process.
(11:49)
Maybe before going and sleeping, you just jump for five minutes. You will really be alive and you will not be tired tomorrow morning. If you go and sleep like this mood, you will be tired tomorrow morning. I always tell people, even in your house, before sleeping, just play some song and jump for five-ten minutes. Dance wildly, not mildly Ooooooo, Oooooo. Not that kind of dance and not even moving the body and just wildly, let your whole body be active. Jump, then if you sleep, you will be fresh next day morning because the second layer energy will be alive, active. Now the first layer energy is over, done. If you jump, second layer energy will become active. Go and sleep. Tomorrow morning you will be fresh.
(12:46)
Title:
The Science of Self-Realization || Part 1|| Atma Spurana || 24 March 2007
Description:
Name of Convention: Atma Spurana
Title: The Science of Self-Realization Part 1
Session on: The nature of conscious evolution, the ultimate truth about reincarnation, the effect of past animal lives on the human body, and the science of self-realization.
Date: 24 March, 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
In this video, Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam gives a clear description of the conscious evolution process through the being embodying different forms: from fish to tortoise, tortoise to monkey, monkey to human body, and human body to enlightened body. His Divine Holiness shares how we create the next body, and how the animal past lives influence us in the human body. He describes the process of how Samskaras (engraved memories, or karma) is created. The science of self-realization is described in detail. This video is a must see for all who wish to understand why we have certain tendencies, addictions and blocks, and how to clear those.
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Transcript:
(0:17)
Understand, this is not like NSP. If you have done NSP, don't think it will be like NSP. No, in NSP, we work on only the engrams which is recorded in those layers like, we wipe the paintings. You are healed from engrams and it is like a little lubrication. You will go back and live in the society as a much better person but now we are going to work on the very Kosha means the very layer, very canvas on which the painting engrams are carved. So it is like a, you will not be the same person again. You are not the same person now itself, from morning to now. You are not the same. How can you be same? Now lot of gender change has happened, job career change, professional change and still husband- wives are sitting next.
(01:28)
Now let us start the process. Annamaya kosha, first layer means the physical layer with which you are living - the bone, flesh, structure. See, this is made out of samskaras which you bring from so many janmas, so many births. People ask Me, “Swamiji, do You believe in reincarnation, many births?” I tell them, “No, I don't believe but I know the truth. It is there.” It’s not belief, simply it is truth. You are reborn till you are enlightened. Till you achieve Enlightenment you take birth. Rarely after Enlightenment, people take conscious birth. It is called Avatara, incarnation. All unconscious birth is regular birth and death. Rarely some people after Enlightenment take birth. It is called incarnation or avatara. Anyhow, now all you need to understand, whether you believe it or not, truth is that we do have rebirth and we bring our karmas, samskaras unfulfilled, understand, unfulfilled samskaras when we take this new body.
(03:05)
Usually when you take a big jump means the.... when you shift the bodies in which you live like a, from fish to tortoise, from tortoise you jump to the pig. That is the way the Incarnations are described traditionally, the Vishnu’s Incarnations, Avataras. First fish. See, when you live in the fish body, whatever you see and whatever you hear gets recorded. Now you know about more possibility, more samskaras like when fish sees a animal which is staying in the water and in the land- tortoise and it decides, “Let me take up this kind of a body next time.” And when it leaves the old body, now it has got all samskaras, the higher possibilities are recorded in it. So it decides to create a tortoise body for itself. Now it sees a much better animal on the land. Of course, even though it may see human beings, it can't take such big jump. Whatever samskaras it collected during the tortoise body, it gathers the whole thing and when it have wants to have a next body, it decides much better choice.
(04:40)
That is why, we always tell, even seeing an Enlightened Master is a blessing because next time when you design your body, you will decide to be that kind of a being. The possibility is already known to you. In six billion people, how many you think knows the possibility of enlightenment, the higher level of being, higher kind of existence is possible? That is why we say in Vedic tradition, Darshana, seeing itself is a great thing because in your.... you see, whatever you see, hear, enjoy, even if you are not completely aware, it will get recorded in you. That is why you can be hypnotized and information can come out. You see, even if you have not observed, when you travel in a road, the information will be recorded inside. You can be hypnotized and you will tell that information. Information can be taken out of you.
(05:50)
So when you live in a tortoise body, you receive so much of information. You see, hear, receive so much of Information and samskaras about a better body. Then you next choice, you take a better body. That is the way you take a jump. Next, next, next, next, next. That is the way you change your bodies. Now when you take the human body, human sharira, manushya sharira, the last jump which you took, the last animal, that engrams, samskaras also you bring. You bring animal samskaras which you did not fulfill when you were in the animal body, when you were in the manushya sharira. You come with those samskaras also. One more thing, now when you give life to those samskaras, the energy which is connected to those samskaras will be given to you. Two thing: all samskaras, engram will have certain power, energy, certain energy and certain love or hatred.
(07:10)
You see, let Me describe the engram very clearly so that you will understand what I am saying. Some engram to have cup of coffee in the morning. Morning you will have that energy to get up, go to the kitchen, pick up the coffee and drink and the picture of coffee, the experience of coffee- this both together is called samskara. Now we are trying to remove that picture and just give the energy to you. If you remove the samskara completely, you will lose energy and picture both but when you work on Annamaya kosha, samskaras’ energy will be there and the picture will disappear. Vasanas will be removed but the Shakti, the power of the samskara will stay with you. Vasana means the object; Shakti is power of samskara. Removing Vasana but not the power of the samskara, it is called self actualization.
(08:29)
Understand, self realization can be achieved in two way. Completely removing the samskara and energy, everything. You will have self realization. Path of renunciation. You can realize yourself by actualizing yourself also. That means having the energy removing the Vasana. Now by working on Anandamaya kosha itself, you will be having the shakti but not the vasana. You bring so much of samskaras from the different animal births. It is a very powerful method, process to re-live and get all the things out, get everything out of your being. Usually only in a very close, intimate atmosphere like teacher training and all only I give this meditation technique. It is a very powerful technique. I can't even call this technique. Again process, again and again I want to remind you guys. It is a process because technique means you can go and practice. You can't practice this. No, you can't do this in the house. It is a process. It doesn't work without Master’s presence, direct presence.
(10:06)
You go from a different bodies. You just travel from different levels to higher and higher levels like a fish to tortoise and tortoise to pig, pig to Narasimha. Narasimha means half man and half animal and from there to Vamana, pygmy man, man but short, pygmy guy. Then goes to Rama, then Krishna, growing system. When you are in the human body, if you are fortunate enough to see a Living Master, Enlightened Master and live around him, your unconscious will record, “O God! the better possibility to exist is there, better possibility to live is true.” And this, when you are supposed to take the next body will be used as an information, data. You will create an enlightened body. That is why we say that even seeing, darshana, is such a great blessing, such a great thing.
(11:28)
Now we will work on the annamaya kosha. How? Just start living all the animal engrams so that your annamaya kosha will become completely self actualized. All the samskara which you brought with your body, with your annamaya kosha becomes reality. Understand, you have got so many samskaras from animal layer. Because you never allowed them to become reality, it expresses in your everyday life. You can see when you eat, you can see when you are angry, the animals expressing through you and you can see when you are filled with lust, the animals expressing through you. Understand, sometime even you will feel frightened, ‘What am I doing? What is going on?’ Till you allow the animal inside you to be completely fulfilled and relaxed, you can't escape from it because you are carrying those engrams, you are carrying those samskaras. It should be allowed to come out. It should be allowed to actualize itself.
(13:04)
See, these engrams are so powerful, this is called prarabdha karma. This prarabdha karma is so powerful, if you allow them to work through you, they will empower you. If you suppress them, they will constantly depress you. You will be fighting with them. Whatever quality you are fighting with you, whatever way you are fighting with you… see, if you are fighting to control your anger, if you are fighting to stop smoking, if you are fighting to stop drinking, everything is directly connected to this annamaya kosha, animal layer. The samskaras which you brought from the animal level, animal layer. That is the... even for any addiction or anything, if you are fighting with yourself, responsibility is this annamaya kosha. Whatever may be the reason for your fight with you, the responsibility is the samskaras which you bring from the animal body.
(14:13)
Title:
The Science of Self-Realization || Part 2 || Atma Spurana || 24 march 2007
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Name of Convention: Atma Spurana
Title: The Science of Self-Realization Part 2
Session on: The nature of conscious evolution, the ultimate truth about reincarnation, the effect of past animal lives on the human body, and the science of self-realization.
Date: 24 March, 2007
Venue: Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
In this video, Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism HDH #Nithyananda Paramashivam continues to elaborate on the effect of past lives that human beings had as animals, and shares a powerful process on how to clear those. His Divine Holiness shares the important difference between a process and a technique.
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[00:15]
Now we are going to give the opportunity for all those samskaras, engrams to leave you all those personalities, the animal layers which you brought. Another one big problem is you have a mixture of all animals, little little from every animal!! Whatever animal body you, little little is left over in you. In the vedic astrology jyotisha the last animal from which you took the jump, they will be able to predict based on your birth time. You may feel, “What is this”? It’s true. It is true. More part of your engrams from which body you brought can be very clearly detected. They can diagnose by seeing your birth time. It’s a big science. It is a big science. If you know little bit of astrology you will understand what I am saying.
[01:28]
And I have seen at least one hundred cases that animal quality will be there in that person throughout his life. Whether he is standing or sitting or walking or eating or drinking or during the anger or lust or anything, that animal quality will be there. He will not even know how to fulfill that. And he will always feel unfulfilled. Now it is time to actualize your self and fulfill those engrams and be empowered by the samskaras, be empowered by those engrams and just escape from the vasanas. Understand when you are empowered by the power of engrams you will be liberated from vasanas. The vasanas cannot be active if you just separate the power and vasana. If you separate the energy which makes you come out your bed and goes to the kitchen and take coffee from the picture coffee, you will have only that emotion, that energy, but not the vasana, the picture.
[02:57]
Understand the difference between these two. Only then you will be able to enter into this meditation. Unless you understand the truths you will not be able to enter into the process. Understanding is also an important thing for the process. Just for technique you don't need understanding. Do it, you will have the result. But this is not just a technique, it is a process.
[03:22]
Upanishad - where you need to understand, where the shravana, clear understanding, clear listening is required, then go through the process - manana. You will be surprised, in vedic tradition there is no meditation, only manana - means the process. No meditation. It’s called manana. Now you will give life to the animal who is inside you. You may think, “How will I find out? How will I know which animal is inside me?” Any animal you feel connected enough. Start and you will see so many animals coming out. They will be just fighting. No, really! Now you will see in few minutes this will become a zoo. 😀 No, this will literally become a zoo. All animals will be coming out. You can start with any animal and you can allow any animal to come in between and you can end with any animal. No problem. But you should not be a human being till the process is over. You may ask, “First You took away our job, then our career, then our gender, now the birth itself!” I am taking away everything which is not you. So that you will have you. Whatever can be removed from you, let it be removed as early as possible. Better for you the earlier they are removed.
[05:16]
You can start with any animal. First you have to stand like them 😀… no, with clothes only. You have to be just live that animal life. Whether your anger or lust or greed, any emotion which makes you fight with you, anything which you think you are not able to handle, all those things are from that animals only. For example, you are not able to control your anger. Now enter into any animal body. For example, you may feel connected to lion. Just become a lion and be angry like a lion… literally. Nobody is going to see you, no photography, no videography. Because I will be frightened. Nobody is going to see you. Literally just become that animal. Just become that animal. You don’t know how powerful this process will be. How it will liberate you from so many problems which you are suffering, with which you are dying. You must be suffering with some problems from 10-12 years. This one session is enough to liberate you. This one session will heal you, I tell you. I have seen people coming out of not just physical diseases, years of addictions and the mental problems like a… no self confidence… see you don’t have self confidence because you are not able to win yourself. You are not able to do what you want to do within you. All those difficulties will just disappear, melt away when this animal is given the satisfaction, when this animal feels completely total, it leaves your system.
[07:30]
Understand human existence, human body is not completely owned by you. The body which you are having, you are not the complete owner. That is why you are not able to completely control it. You are not the owner. There are so many fellows who are sitting inside without paying the rent. No, really! All these fellows are sitting inside. Each one is telling, “Hey this is my portion, get out; and this my portion get out.” And those fellows start fighting with each other and you are not able to do anything. And you are like a person who is married to 4-5 woman. And you have to talk for this guy and that guy and that guy whoever is in front of you. You talk for them, that's all. “Oh nothing like you, yes, yes, yes.”
[08:21]
So many engrams, so many samskaras we are just working on the prarabdha. Prarabdha means the major portion of the karma which you brought when you created this body. When you created this body, the engrams and samskaras which you brought, we are working on it. Means the annamaya kosha, the first layer. See, the base metal, base material with which you created the first layer. We are working on it. Then we will work on one by one. We will do the process. First we are going to do the process on annamaya kosha - the material out of which you created this body, this layer. See, understand the meditation, understand the process very clearly. Assume any one animal, take up any one animal. You don't have to think, “How will I know which is the right animal for me?” Start with any animal because whatever animal is inside that will come out within few minutes. All you need to do is break from this human idea that you are a human being. That’s all. Once you break from that the whole thing will come out. These are all very esoteric mystical process done only when a disciple is really interested and intensely wants to experience the higher consciousness or enlightenment. That is why these techniques, these methods are not available in common for mass.
[10:11]
You may think in our religion we never learnt this. Understand in religion you will never learn this. Only in spirituality you will learn this. These are the methods from the esoteric traditions where the enlightenment science is kept alive, where the living stream is maintained. Fortunately still it is available and you are fortunate to drink that divine nectar from the source, from the source. You may think what will I gain out of this process? That only you have to experience and see. You can only see it, how many things can happen in you. I have seen so many people coming out of arthritis, so many disorders related to body just once, once…. only once they go through this process, they just come out. And so many sexual disorders they come out. That problem is nothing; you have not allowed the animal who is in you to live and leave you. You have not liberated that animal from your system. You might have taken the human body but you never liberated it. You never allowed those engrams to be completely out of your being, out of the system. They are sitting there inside constantly ruling your whole day and night. See, when they are sitting inside they don’t keep quite. They are ruling your whole life. They are directly indirectly guiding your whole life and all your activities.
[12:17]
Why do you want to suffer with some engram without even knowing, without even having control over it? Just enter into the process you will see the relief or the new space, new energy which happens to you. Unless you enter you will not have confidence. Now you will have so many questions, “How can I do?” Because you can ever imagine you becoming some animal. Even when kids play like as if they become elephant and walk on all fours you laugh. You can ever imagine you will be able to do that. Now you can do it. Now you can do it. Just live, of course I have seen people always frozen doesn’t want to get out, doesn’t want to get out of their frozen identity and they will just sit, hm, hm, hm. Then you must be a buffalo. At least live in that body. At least live that body. What can be done? No, I have really seen, even the simple meditation techniques earlier; of course now it is not even a technique, it is a process which needs your 100 % commitment.
[13:45]
Technique doesn’t need 100% commitment how much you do you will get that much of result, that’s all. Even in techniques I have seen. If you say hum as intensely as possible, they will say mmm… mmm 😵. Now if you do that then be very clear you are a buffalo. You were a buffalo. Not you were, you are and at least live in that buffalo body. Just sit silently with the legs crossed 😩 because buffaloes will be always swallow, eating something. Maybe chewing gum I don't know. So, at least do that and just sit.
[14:43]
Till we finish the process throughout this process all I want you to do is forget you have human existence, human body. Live as some animal. Any animal will do. Suddenly in few minutes you will see you are feeling connected to one animal strongly. That one animal is again and again coming out. Maybe snake or bird or elephant or lion or whatever it may be. Sometime you will feel like a some animal which you never heard or seen. You will feel even that kind of a .. Let everything come out. Live. Just live as that and move your body or do any activity just like that animal and don't just keep quiet. No animal will keep quiet except human beings. No, no animal will keep quite usually. It will be doing something or at least moving the body except the time it sleeps. Now I am not asking you to sleep. I am taking you… I am asking you to take that new animal body and live intensely.
[16:00]
All the emotions which gives you the peak experience like a anger, lust - all those peak experience emotions should be lived inside that animal body. Because all your peak experiences are driven by those animal samskaras. Now, live inside that animal body and live those peak experiences like anger, violence or lust or anything. Only one thing, you will not disturb the other person. You can’t touch the next person who is next to you. You can't disturb, except that you are free to do anything. You are free to do anything. It will be .. you will see that it is a intense catharsis of samskaras. Don’t even think it is just a psychological catharsis, like a.. in the west they use techniques for psychological catharsis. They ask you to shout and scream and punch the bag and all those things. No. That is just catharsis for emotion. This is catharsis for samskara, the kosha itself. So the very base itself we are working. This will be 1000 time more effective than any psychological catharsis, any psychological treatment. Those things can only do little bit of cosmetic surgery. But this is completely the whole personality will be transformed. Are you very clear about the technique? I think now I have explained very clearly about the process, the whole process is clear.
[17:58]