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+ | [00:01:15] | ||
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+ | SadāShiva samārambhām Shankarāchārya madhyamām | | ||
+ | asmat āchārya paryantām vande guru paramparām || | ||
+ | Namah Shivaya. | ||
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+ | [00:01:49] | ||
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+ | I welcome you all with My love and respects. Today we’ll enter into the next Sutra. Next meditation technique. Mahadeva the author of this technique, the author of this great book, Shiva sutras. His inner space is so vast, so intelligent, so powerful. He created meditation techniques almost for every possible human being, every possible human being. Somebody asked Me the other day, “Swamiji, how do you know this book is written by Shiva? Somebody else would have wrote it and attributed to Shiva’s name. Who knows?” Anybody who can write the book of this caliber, this standard, He is Shiva, no doubt. He has experienced Shiva consciousness no doubt. Unless you experience… see the very truth, all the details, all the subtle things, He knows. That is enough the author is a rare being. Nothing else is required. Just the very proof that the author knows all the rare details. Understand. Unless you know all the rare details you cannot give solution. You cannot look at the same thing from so many angles. Very small change in a Sutra, very small change in a technique, but helps totally different kind of human beings. | ||
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+ | [00:04:26] | ||
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+ | Sometimes I am surprised, what sophisticated level the society would have been when these Sutras were delivered. See, the more the society is sophisticated, it will have more mental problems. That’s the truth. You won’t have too many mental problems unless society is sophisticated. Because you don’t have too much energy. | ||
+ | You will not have depression if you have poverty; because you don’t have enough energy to sit, eat, find out some reason to get depressed. With poverty your whole energy and time is demanded. See, actually I always tell people depression is a luxury. Unless your basic needs are fulfilled you can’t have depression. Unless it is fulfilled and you have enough time and energy, which is not directly required to be productive, then you create something, you just sit and create some reason to get depressed. I never heard the word depression in the Indian villages. Because they have enough of things to do. You can’t… there’s no time to get depressed. Depression is a luxury. | ||
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+ | [00:06:06] | ||
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+ | I was surprised when I read the solution for all the problems which He talks about. Then ten thousand years ago there must have been such a high sophisticated society with all the luxury. That is why He is giving solution for all these problems. See, if Buddha is teaching, ‘don’t steal’, means in his time the stealing was there. Thieves were there. Otherwise why should he teach? Nobody gives solution for the problem which does not exist except the psychiatrist. Nobody will give you the solution for the problems which does not exist. Here Shiva is talking amazing things, means, that society which existed ten thousand years ago is highly sophisticated which was having all kinds of problems also. Because solution for all the problems which modern men face are available just in this one book, Mahadeva's Shiva Sutras. | ||
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+ | [00:07:35] | ||
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+ | Shiva Sutras has got so many books, so many volumes. This I selected from one part. The book which I am commenting, that part is called Vijnana Bhairava Tantra. Shiva start 64 tantras. In one tantra he gives 112 meditation techniques. That is Vignana Tantra. We are working on that book, 35th sutra. We are working on the 35th meditation technique. Day before yesterday we saw one meditation technique. Yesterday we studied another meditation technique. Today we are starting 35th meditation. Yesterday what we saw is 34th. But day before yesterday what we saw is not 33rd. It was the technique which I did not speak during My last trip to Vancouver. We did not have that discourse. So, day before yesterday I spoke on that. Yesterday new sutra and today also one more new sutra. Giving clear solution means, somebody who knows completely about their mind only can give solution so thoroughly, so clearly. Here Mahadeva is giving solution for all the problems. If somebody can give solution to the problems so clearly, if somebody knows about the mind so thoroughly I am sure he is Shiva, means he has achieved Shiva consciousness. | ||
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+ | [00:09:59] | ||
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+ | In India the Shiva, Vyasa, Buddha all these words are not towards one person. Of course those beings also existed, but in course of time anybody who achieves that conscious state, they are given that title. Buddha does not mean only one Buddha. The Gautama the Buddha. Gautama the Buddha existed, but after his existence, anybody who achieves that state of consciousness they are given that title. Still now all Shankara's disciples are called Shankaracharyas. Anybody who achieves that state is called as a Shankaracharya. The original Shankaracharya is called Adi Shankaracharya means first Shankaracharya. Anybody who has achieved that state is called Adi Shankara… the Shankaracharya. Sometime you will get confused whether the book is written by Shankaracharya or Adi Shankaracharya. So, here people ask Me, “How do you know this book is written by Shiva”? Understand the person who can penetrate into human consciousness so deeply is Shiva. He has achieved the state of Shiva no doubt. So, forget about doubting the book. Let us doubt your mind and start working on it. | ||
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+ | [00:11:37] | ||
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+ | Let Me read the sutra. | ||
+ | घटावदभाजनेदृवष्टंवभवत्तस्त्यक्त्वा विवनवऺऩते | ||
+ | तल्लयंतत्क्षणाद्गत्वा तल्लयात्तन्मयो भिते ॥ | ||
+ | At the edge of the deep well look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness happens to you. | ||
+ | Very powerful technique. Just slight, small difference between yesterday's technique and today’s technique. But there are different kinds of minds, for all kinds of minds Shiva is teaching. | ||
+ | At the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness. Understand, again this technique is also about falling in love, falling in tune. See, the yesterday’s technique and today’s technique both are about falling in tune. But the yesterday’s techniques was falling in tune with a living being, an enlightened Master. Today’s technique is about falling in tune with an object. Sometime falling in love with an object is little easy. Because you can possess it. You can possess it. Why people have got pets? No food for living human beings but these guys are spending so much on the pet animals. | ||
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+ | [00:13:48] | ||
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+ | Actually when you can’t love human beings, pets is a nice substitute. See, the difficulty with opening up to human being is, the risk of ‘no’ is there. When you open up with a human being he may say ‘no’. He may not receive you. He may not be behaving as you want. He may not be expressive. But with pets, you feed them, they have to do what you want. And you can tie them in a rope and put them in cage when you don’t want to spend time with them. With human beings things are little unpredictable. They may have the mood when you don’t have, they may not have the mood when you have. But with pets, things are more under your control. You can choose. | ||
+ | Understand but it is very poor substitute. Learn how to open up to the higher level beings. Understand. First level. Opening up to a animal where things are under your control. Second level opening up to a human being where 50% is under your control and 50% is under his control. Third opening up to an enlightened being. Nothing is under your control. Nothing is under your control. That is why it is very difficult to open up to an enlightened being; because you will lose your very boundary. When you open up to an enlightened being you will lose the idea where your hand ends where your body ends. You just relax, disappear into him. His vastness, the amazing energy, just you are lost in his presence, or I can say you are first time experiencing yourself. I can’t say you are lost, first time you are back home. You discovered yourself. First time you will discover who you are. | ||
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+ | [00:16:38] | ||
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+ | Different levels of falling in love. Shiva is not saying no to anybody, any level is okay. He is ready to give technique for that level person. Understand whether you are able to open up to an enlightened being there is a technique. Yesterday’s technique - Deeksha, just initiation liberates. If you are able to open up to a human being, again He has got a technique. Just few days ago I finished the technique. If you are able to open up only to a animals, again He has got techniques for that kind of human being. If you are not even able to open up to animals, because even with animals there is one danger. They may die. If they die things are not under your control completely. You can open up only to a object. Then you have a technique also. You also have a technique. Here Shiva is giving methods even for that kind of human beings. | ||
+ | Sometime people who lived in the forests, who lived with nature, they can open up to an object easily even if they are in high level consciousness. Even if they are in the level of opening up to a Master they may not find a Master they can just open up. They can just feel connected to an object in the forest. So, even for that kind of people this technique will be very useful. It’s more like opening up to nature. Opening up to nature. Even if you are intelligent enough, powerful enough, intense enough to open up to a Master, if you have never seen a Master and if you are living in a forest, you may open up to an object with such a deep connection and that object will serve as God or Master. | ||
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+ | [00:19:11] | ||
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+ | There is a beautiful story of a great devotee of Shiva. His name is called Kannappa; means the father who gave eyes to Shiva. Understand the story says Shiva has got three eyes. In that three one eye belongs… one and half eye belongs to Devi because He has given His half to Devi. The remaining one and half, one belongs to this devotee. Only a half is His eye. Let Me tell the story. It’s a beautiful story. There was a hunter in a forest. That guy, his only work is from morning till night he will hunt animals, cook them, eat, sleep, that's the life. Fortunately he did not get civilized. | ||
+ | Sometimes civilization takes away some beautiful things in the human beings. Sometime they are too costly than civilization; means the possibility to open up is taken away in this process of so-called civilization. Fortunately this guy even though lived as a hunter did not lose that dimension of his being. I call this dimension as a sixth sense, possibility to open up. This guy did not lose that possibility. If you doubt, doubt, doubt constantly anything and everything you see, be very clear you lost that sixth sense. Civilization has happened to you. You are now civilized, you can have a big board. I am completely civilized. Now you know how to find reason, how to justify things, how to do anything. Now you know logically how to find reasons, how to doubt, how to justify whatever you do. | ||
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+ | [00:21:54] | ||
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+ | Small story. One day late night ten oclock a guy saw behind his car the cop’s car with a red light sign. He is trying to chase him. This guy thought, I think I can outrun him and it is a county road, remote road. He tried increasing the speed. This cop also did not leave, he also increased. In few minutes there was a big race; went to 60, 70, 90, 100 miles. After half an hour this guy realized he can’t escape. So, he stopped, pulled over. Cop came near him and said… officer came near him and said, “Hey, today I really had a lousy day. Just tell me some reason I’ll let you go. Just tell me some reason I’ll let you go.” The guy thought for a moment and said “Yes, yes. I know the reason why I ran away looking at you.” He said “What”? “Three weeks ago my wife ran away with a police officer. When I saw your car I thought you are the officer and you are trying to bring her back to me.” 😀 | ||
+ | You can always justify, you can always justify with civilization you get the power to justify but you lose the capacity to open up. Your logic becomes very sharp, but the sixth sense, power to open up is lost. | ||
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+ | [00:24:01] | ||
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+ | This devotee fortunately did not lose the ability to open up. In the forest one day when he went for hunting he saw a beautiful Shiva’s murti, the Shiva linga. Shiva linga with a face carved on it. In India you will see varieties, different kinds of Shiva lingas. Different kinds of Shiva lingas with different forms and ways and different things. There was a Shiva linga with a face carved on it. The moment he saw that Shiva linga, he saw that murthi, he saw that statue, he fell in love with that. Somehow he was able to open himself. Every day he started visiting that place. He felt the god is there in that form or the higher energy is there in that form. After two three days he started talking to it, talking to Shiva. When you see god, you don’t see statue. When you see statue, you don’t see god. | ||
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+ | [00:25:27] | ||
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+ | Understand, when you see it as a god you will not see that as a statue or just an idol; when you see it as a idol you will not see that as a god. Somehow he felt it’s god. He did not see it as a statue. He started talking to Shiva “Oh, Lord it’s so nice you are here just for me.” And he said “Just see that I get a good animal today so that I’ll give you a feast.” Whatever he gets he’ll nicely cook, not only he will nicely cook he’ll first see taste it and see whether it is really cooked well, then bring that portion, that flesh to that Shiva and he will offer it. | ||
+ | See, very strange kind of a worship. He doesn’t have any vessel to bring water and wash that place. So, he will take water in his mouth; he will collect all the flowers and put it in his hair. There is no other flower basket for him. He will collect all the flowers and put it in his hair, in his jatta, the hunters will have a big matted lock. He will put it in his matted lock, fill water in his mouth, and carry that flesh or that meat in a palm leaf in one hand bring there and he will spit that water on that statue, on that Shiva and put all the flowers on that Shiva and decorate him. Put this flesh in front of him and pray to him, “Oh, Lord please eat the best portion of the meat, the flesh, I brought for you.” | ||
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+ | [00:27:31] | ||
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+ | He will do all his puja and then he will tell, “Oh, I think you’re feeling little shy because I am here. I’ll go away, you eat later on. When you feel like, you eat that time.” When you open innocently, the power of existence, the big problem is we lost how to open up innocently, honestly. He will tell, “Now it is time, you please eat later on, maybe I will give you private time.” He will go away. | ||
+ | Actually there was a traditional intellectual guy who also used to come to that place to worship rarely. That day he came and he saw all that meat in front of Shiva and these traditional intellectuals usually not only they are vegetarians they are dead against non veg. I always tell people, take vegetarian vow nothing wrong but don’t hate nonvegetarian people. Let them have what they want. People come and ask Me, “How to convince others to take up vegetarian food.” I tell them, “Why, why do you want to convince”? You must be jealous of them enjoying. You must be feeling that saliva when they eat. Otherwise why will you get interested in convincing them? | ||
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+ | [00:29:15] | ||
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+ | If you know vegetarian is good, just enjoy, stop with it. Over, why do you want to convince? Because there must be in one corner of your mind a little ‘tsk.. I think once in a while okay.’ Or that saliva is there in the mouth. Otherwise why will you try to convince somebody who is not bothered about convincing you? See, no non veg person goes to convince others ‘eat non veg’ but all these vegetarian people goes to convince non veg people ‘don’t have non veg, eat vegetarian’. See, the fun part of it. No non vegetarian person goes to convince vegetarians. ‘Please have non-vegetarian also.’ No. ‘Please become vegetarian.’ No. But this all these vegetarian guys, they go around and convince every non-vegetarian person. In our healing initiation, of course that initiation can be taken or practiced only with vegetarian food. With non-vegetarian food you’ll have a little side effect. Your system will not be able to adjust, cope up with it. | ||
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+ | [00:30:35] | ||
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+ | So, when these guys become vegetarians first thing they do is they will go round and start canvassing, start preaching ‘You become vegetarian it’s good.’ Little jealous one corner. Here, this guy who's a great intellectual, who is doing the puja with all the vegetarian tradition way, he came and saw “God what is this? All non veg things are lying? How can this happen”? He threw everything out cleared the place and he did formal worship of bringing water from… in a proper pot and cleaning the spot and did everything and then went away. | ||
+ | After few days again this hunter devotee came, again he did his own way of worship, pouring the water… spitting, not even pouring, because he has brought water in the mouth. And removing flowers from his hair and putting it and that fresh meat flesh which he tasted he offered it. Then he said “Alright Shiva you can have little private time, you can taste when you want.” This hunting devotee.. The hunter devotee he thought the earlier flesh which he kept Shiva has eaten. He didn’t know that some other guy came and removed it. He thought, “Oh, I think you enjoyed it. That’s why there’s nothing left, even the leaf is not there.” So, again put the food and went away. | ||
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+ | Again this traditional orthodox devotee intellectual this guy came and saw, “Oh God! Once more this meat, who is doing this sacrilegious act? Who is disturbing? I should see this.. stay here today and see who is the guy coming and doing these things and I will take him to task.” He has hidden himself in one corner behind a tree. Waiting. Who is coming and doing that job? After a few hours as usual our devotee came and he saw, “Oh god! You finished this meat also? That’s nice, but I brought some more for you.” So, he came and did as usual, spitting the water, putting the flowers and he put all the meat in front of the god and started his puja. | ||
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+ | That traditional orthodox intellectual guy, he was about to jump out and stop this guy. Suddenly he saw from that Shiva’s one eye blood started coming. So, this traditional guy got frightened. “God, now I don’t know what to do. Let me just see what will happen. I think now Shiva himself is going to punish this fellow. This guy must be punished by Shiva Himself. Let me wait and see how Shiva punishes.” When this hunter devotee Kanappa saw the blood coming, immediately he said, “God what has happened to your eyes? I should do something.” He ran here and there to get some herbs to treat but nothing worked. Then the devotee who was hiding, that guy, that traditional old guy, he saw, “Oh, this fellow is not bad guy, he’s trying to only cure. Let me just see what happens.” He was hiding and just watching the whole fun, whole drama without coming out. | ||
+ | This hunter devotee ran here and there tried to collect some herbal medicines to heal Shiva, Shiva’s eyes, nothing worked out. Then this devotee decided, I think first eye transplantation, eye surgery. He decided, “I’ll give my eyes for Shiva.” So, he just removed one of his eyes and put at the spot of Shiva’s eyes. First transplanting surgery. I don’t know how many thousands of years ago. The story says the.. that eye got healed, got cured. But the drama is, drama doesn’t end there. Suddenly in the other eye also blood started coming. Now it is too much. This hunting devotee.. actually the devotee is getting tested for his devotion. The devotee saw the blood coming in the other eye also. He decided, “I will give my other eye also.” That traditional intellectual person who was standing, hiding behind the tree was shocked when he saw the power of devotion. But he did not come out; he was frozen in the fear, just hiding. This hunter devotee does not have time, much time to think, “Oh God, you are having pain, you are having bleeding, I should immediately help do something.” So, he decided to remove the other eye also and put it. | ||
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+ | Then suddenly he remembered, “If I remove my one.. other eye also I will not know where Shiva’s eyes are there, the second eye. Because I will become completely blind. So, now itself I should mark where that Shiva’s eyes are there. And then remove the other eye, replace it. The donor and the surgeon both are same person. Not only is he donating, he himself is doing the surgery also. So, he put his hand and he started removing the eye, but he was not able to remove with one hand. So, he has to use the arrow to remove his other eye. He needs two hands. So, he put his feet on that second eye, Shiva's eye. Understand, he put his feet on Shiva’s second eye where that spot is there and about to remove the second eye, Shiva appeared. | ||
+ | The story says Shiva appeared. “My son I have just tested your devotion. I have just tested your devotion. Whatever you did, if you see from the physical level, normal level it is sacrilegious. Spitting water, putting the flower which was used, put in your head, and offering the meat which you tasted, finally above all putting your feet on that god. But your devotion is so amazing, so great, your devotion is such, from today you will be called as Kannappa means Father who gave Me eyes.” | ||
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+ | [00:39:21] | ||
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+ | Understand only your father can give some part of your body. Only your father or mother can give some part of your body. At least in those days when transplantation was not common. So, Shiva says, “You gave Me eye, because you gave Me eye I call you as My father. Because you gave...” kan means in Tamil eye. “You will be called as father who gave Me the eyes.” The story says that moment he became enlightened. That old guy who was hiding, he ran and fell at the feet of that hunting... hunter devotee and said, “I have never seen this devotion; what you have done maybe not according to the tradition but even your devotion is beyond tradition.” | ||
+ | His devotion feeling connected, opening up somehow he opened up to a statue, to an idol, just to one murthi and he felt Shiva is there. And he was running around like it is his responsibility to care. His whole day, whole life, Shiva has become center. His whole being he has become center. That is why he is able to go to the extreme of removing his both eyes, his two eyes. | ||
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+ | [00:41:18] | ||
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+ | Feeling connected, opening yourself… actually if you open yourself anything, to anything, that will become alive; because opening up is so powerful that will make you also alive. As I was telling yesterday whenever you feel life, energy in you, be very clear you are opening up. That is the only thing which can bring energy and life to you. That is why when you are in love with somebody you are so energetic, high, not after marriage. Not after marriage. | ||
+ | Somebody asked, one son is asking father, “Father how much it costs to get married?” Father said, “I don’t know because still I am paying for it.” 😀 Son asks the father, “Father, in those days, ancient India, it seems that men will not know about women til they get married.” Father says, “Not only in those days ancient India, anywhere, everywhere men will not know about women till they get married. Anywhere my son anywhere.” | ||
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+ | [00:43:04] | ||
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+ | When you are in love your whole being is filled with energy, means you are open. When you open up, not only you, you make the other person, the object to which you open also becomes alive. When you open up not only you, the object or the person to which you open up, that also becomes alive. That also becomes divine. Shiva is giving us a technique. Here, fortunately still if your sixth sense is not lost, means the ability to open up with some object or nature, if you have not lost that capacity, this technique is for you. | ||
+ | Sometime very rarely people escape the social conditioning. Genius is a person who escapes the social conditioning. Understand, genius is a person who escapes social conditioning and maintains his high energy. Fortunately, if you are able to maintain, if you are able to keep your sixth sense alive, this technique is for you. Sometime, suddenly for some reason you fall in love with some object, some murthi, some statue with something, nature, you can try this technique if you are in love with something. The basic philosophy of that technique is when you open up, the whole thing - nature or the person or the object to which you open up becomes alive. | ||
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+ | [00:45:42] | ||
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+ | Let Me read the sutra once more. “At the edge of a deep well, look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness happens.” Understand ‘at the edge of the deep well look steadily into its deep depths until the wondrousness happens’ means until your mind dissolves. You will be wondering, you will be in a wonder filled mood only if your mind disappears. | ||
+ | Other day I was telling, if you are in the wondering mood you are in high energy. Somebody asked Me the question, “What is the wondering thing in the life”? I tell them life is the most wondering thing. The other guy asked, “I am wondering about what to do with my life.” I told him, “Wonder about life then you have done what has to be done.” If you are wondering about the life you have achieved what has to be achieved. Nothing else is required. You don’t have to wonder about what to do with the life. Just wonder about life that’s enough. | ||
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+ | One guy asked Me, “I am wondering why so much of suffering. Am I on the right track”? I asid, “No.” That is worrying of ‘why so much of suffering’ not wondering. That can’t be called as wondering. Wondering means filled with joy and ecstasy, overflowing. Here Shiva is telling, ‘at the edge of the deep well look steadily into its depths until you have the wonderessness’, you are filled with wonder. The mind disappears. Understand, it is a very powerful technique. This technique is used by Lao tzu. Understand this book is book of all books. One technique from this book can create one religion. This book is a book; it's a manual for all the prophets to create religions. Manual for all enlightened Masters to create their own religions. This book should be called as ‘How to create enlightenment traditions’ 😀 ‘How to create enlightenment traditions’. This is not just how to meditate. This book should be called as ‘How to create enlightenment traditions.’ This book must have been manual for all the great enlightened Masters to create a new, new kind of tradition. | ||
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+ | [00:48:57] | ||
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+ | I am always afraid of these ‘How to…’ books because they don’t give you the truth completely because they themself don’t know. I always tell people, read from the source, learn from the source. In the initial level if you are inspired by some ‘How to…’ books, that is okay, nothing wrong. But to grow further go to the source. They are like a a sign boards. These personality development programs, courses, books, all of them are signboards. Once you feel the taste with that things then now it is time turn towards the root. From the source learning is little time taking process. But you will learn authentically. | ||
+ | Sometime in India I have seen the compounders, means the doctor’s assistants, the nurses, they will start giving medicines if the doctor is not there. By being around the doctor for few years continuously they know for headache black color tablet, for stomach pain red color tablet, for knee pain yellow color tablet they know. Sometime the medicine which you receive from nurse also may work. But it is not advisable to take medicines from nurse. Medicines from compounders who are not trained for it, who have not studied for it. Because they don’t know the science behind the medication. They know only the color matching. | ||
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+ | [00:50:45] | ||
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+ | Same way, these so-called personality development authors and the programs and the guys, they also, sometime they will give solution, it may work also. But that does not mean they know the whole science. Sometime they will miss a vital point. | ||
+ | Small story. One guy goes to a personality development guru and asks, “I am very bad with women. I am 33, still single. Please help me, give me some tips.” That guy said, “Don’t bother, early morning when you come out of your bed just stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself you are a funny guy, you are attractive guy, you are an intelligent guy. You will attract people”. Just tell this ten times to yourself. All this kind of funny suggestions they will give and somehow this guy because he paid the money he has to follow the suggestion. He went and did. After three weeks he came with the same low mood, same face hanging long, to that self development guru. That guy asked, “What, what happened? The technique did not work?” “No, no, it worked amazing, for within a week I have seen the best women all over this.. best women in this city. I am just having party every day.” “Then why are you disturbed? Then what is your problem”? “No, now I don’t have any problem, but my wife has.” 😊 | ||
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+ | [00:52:46] | ||
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+ | Understand, sometime because within that three week he got married and now she is creating problem. Sometime they will miss vital points. He should have advised him, “Don’t get married.” 😊 The vital point is not given, ‘remain as single as earlier, how you remained, same way’. He missed a single point, a single advise. Now the problem starts. Sometime these self development gurus also may miss a single vital point. | ||
+ | Anyhow this book must have been the ‘How to create enlightened traditions, living stream of enlightened being’ Because Lao tzu used this technique and there are techniques which is used by Buddha, which is used by Jesus Christ, which is used by George Gurdjieff. And this book is ten thousand years old. So, we can be sure this is a source book. This at least ten thousand years old because the stone inscription of this book is at least ten thousand years old. | ||
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+ | Lao tzu and his disciple Chung tzu both of them were walking on a bridge, on a river. Suddenly Lao tzu said, “Stop here, when river stops and bridge moves, come back and see me.” and went away. These enlightened Masters are very crazy. You don’t know what they will do. Especially if you are in tune with them, if you are totally open, if you give them the confidence that you are ready to learn, they will teach in all crazy ways. But, they will do it. That’s one great thing about them. | ||
+ | Both of them are walking in a forest on a bridge, suddenly he stops, “Hey, stand here when river stops and bridge moves, come back and see me. Till then be here.” And he went away leaving him alone. Just understand, you are coming with Me somewhere in a forest, suddenly I tell you, “Stop here, stand here and come back when the hill moves.” What will you tell? “Eh get lost.” At least if you are intelligent, “No, no, no I don’t want to send you alone, at least for your sake I should come.” You will find some reason. But this Chung tzu is a very dedicated disciple. The story says he made a small hut on that bridge and sat. He was sitting gazing down the bridge continuously looking, looking, looking, looking, looking; decided ‘till the river stops and bridge flows I will not go from here.’ Understand, ‘till the river stops and bridge flows I will not go from here.’ Decided just to sit. | ||
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+ | And now the physicists are saying, even the wall which is static here is not static. The electrons are moving. The high speed the electrons are moving. Einstein says if two space, in the space if two vehicles are moving at same speed, you can’t even say that they are moving. In space if two vehicles are moving at same speed you can’t say that they are moving. See you feel that something is moving only when you see something else is static. If you are going in train, you feel the train is moving because trees are static. If you feel that trees are moving, you will feel that train is static. Sometime if the train is very silent, no sound, no jerk, kids, children they start thinking the trees are moving. They ask you “Father, why the trees are running so fast?” Something is running because something else is static, but everything is flowing everything is moving in its own way. | ||
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+ | This guy decided to sit watching, watching, watching. He experienced the oneness with bridge, he saw the particles in the bridge is moving so fast, the river become static and the bridge is flowing! 😀 Understand if you sit and meditate on this wall you will realize this wall is not static. It is flowing. It is nothing but a frequency, vibration. | ||
+ | Same way, when he decided to sit with the bridge he experienced that bridge is nothing but a frequency. It is not a matter, it is not just a dead matter, it is a frequency, energy. Chung tzu runs to the Master. The moment Lao tzu saw him he said, “Enough I am not interested in asking you what happened, I know it has happened.” Because the bridge has become I could see the intense frequency with which he is vibrating. So, it is such an intense vibration frequency, bridge is flowing, river is static. It’s nothing but the technique to fall in tune, opening up. | ||
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+ | Here Mahadeva is giving at the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depth.. depths until the wondrousness. | ||
+ | You see, when you feel connected to a well or when you are standing near a well, deep well and looking into its depths, be very clear, make sure that well has got a wall 😀 Because liability problem. Well has got a wall and you are safe. Just look steadily into its depths. When you are completely connected, lost in the depths of the well, you will understand the depths of your being is also opening up. Slowly it will open up till you feel that you are filled, wondrous. | ||
+ | One more thing, if you are height phobic, if you have that fear of the height, you will feel frightened; first your fears will come out. Nothing wrong, you can go through the fears. If you really have too much of fear about the height, then this technique is not for you. If you have the ability to open up, this technique is for you. Just stand. Look the depth. | ||
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+ | [01:01:25] | ||
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+ | Actually when you look at the depth, look down, you feel the fear. Because your swadisthana is awakened. Anything awakens swadisthana is filled with life. Understand. Whenever your swadisthana is awakened, anything which awakens your swadhisthana is filled with life. The same thing which awakens your swadisthana, can be used to go beyond the death, means achieving life. Life and death both are connected to swadisthana. Whether you are facing death or life, it will awaken. If you are feeling the fear seeing the depth, means the swadhisthana is awakened. You can use that same possibility to awaken the life also in you. Go beyond death. Go beyond death. | ||
+ | ‘At the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness’ until you’re filled with wondrousness, you achieve the no-mind state. If you don’t have a well you can use Master’s eyes as a substitute. Understand. Master’s eyes is also deep, deeper than any ocean. Sometime, in those days during LBP, the sixth meditation ajna meditation, I Myself will sit and people will be allowed to gaze at My eyes. They feel, “Swamiji it is empty, nobody is there inside.” I tell you that is true. There is nobody inside. | ||
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+ | It is just moving; because somebody is there in that body it gives you the feeling there is somebody in this body also. If you realize that there is nobody in this body, you will realize there is nobody in that body also. There is nobody in this body. Empty chair, but if empty chair speaks to you it will be difficult for you to sit and listen. Just imagine the empty chair is there and sound is coming. That is the reason I have to create a body. I have to use a body. Just like using this kerchief I have to use the body. Because I am talking to human beings I have to create a human body. | ||
+ | You can use Master’s eyes. I think we have photographs. You can use the photograph of the Master’s eyes. Just sit with it and see the depth, just look into that eyes you will see the empty intense energy. Nothingness and everything; poorna and shoonya. Poorna means everything, shoonya means nothingness. You will see both in that eyes. Both are one and the same. Beyond your frequency you can call that as emptiness or everything. Poorna or shoonya. You will experience that in the Master’s eyes also. | ||
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+ | [01:05:24] | ||
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+ | If you have well, use the well. If you don’t have a well, well it’s okay. Get at least the photograph of the Master. Sit with it. Decide ‘Till I am filled with a no mind state, till I am filled with nothing or everything; either I should be filled with nothing or I should be filling everything. Till that happens I won’t move.’ Understand, this strong sankalpa, will, is also necessary. | ||
+ | Buddha, when he sat, when he decided that he will not get up till he becomes enlightened, story says he became enlightened that moment. Idam asanam. “In this seat let my flesh dry, let my bones dry, let my body dry, let me die, but I will not move unless I become enlightened.” This very strength. He became enlightened that moment. | ||
+ | Same way decide strongly, “Unless I get at least one glimpse of that no mind state, I will not get up from this meditation.” If your mind knows that you are, you will get up, mind will try to give suggestion, ‘I think telephone is ringing.’ ‘Please come, let’s have breakfast then we’ll continue the meditation.’ ‘It is time to call your girlfriend, later on we can do.’ ‘It’s time to call your boyfriend, why not later on.’ You will find some reason, your mind will find some reason to torture you, tell you ‘get out’. Mind is a very powerful cunning enemy. He will take revenge. He will try his best to take revenge. He will not allow. | ||
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+ | Small story. One old farmer was dying, he’s in the death bed. He called his wife and said, “Please marry the neighbor after I die.” Wife said, “No, I can't marry; after I lived with you, I can’t marry anybody else.” He said, “No, no you should marry, marry him.” She asked, “Why, why you are forcing me”? “Because that fellow tortured me throughout my life. 😀 That fellow has cheated me in many ways.” Your mind will find some reason to torture you, to threaten you. No. That’s not life. Let you be very clear, that's not life. | ||
+ | Decide very strongly, clearly, one sitting can transform your life. In the house when you are alone decide, “I will not get up unless I get at least one glimpse.” Sit with the well or with Master's eyes which is far more deeper than any well. ‘Look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness, the no mind state happens to you.’ All you need to do - open yourself, be in tune, look into it, steadily. Decide very clearly I am going to do it. | ||
+ | Mind will always postpone. I have seen, people come and ask Me, “Swamiji, tomorrow two days workshop. Shall I attend next weekend? I’ll come to Seattle.” I tell them, “You are seeing Me now. There is an inspiration and mood. If you can’t make it next week… if you can’t make it this weekend you think you’ll make it next weekend? By that time I’ll be in one corner of your memory.” So, naturally your mind, ‘It’s okay, alright. What am I going to do meditating and all unnecessarily; it’s okay, I am already alright.’ I always tell people, ‘Don’t postpone.’ Mind is such a cunning mechanism, no postponing. Do it now. Do it now, otherwise never. | ||
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+ | There is a beautiful story in Mahabharata. There was a great king called Karna. He is well known for his charitable nature. One day an elderly priest came to him and asked for alms. This guy was applying oil with the left hand, and in a golden cup oil was there, he was applying. Just he took that cup and gave it away, that golden cup. But traditionally you are not supposed to do any charitable activity or giving anything with the left hand. The priest was offended. He said, “How can you do this with the left hand”? Karna, the king says, “Please forgive me for doing something with the left hand but I am afraid by the time I decide and move my right hand and pick it up, my mind may change. So, I don’t want to take that risk. It was in the left hand, I was applying the oil, before the mind comes in I want to finish the act. That’s why I decided to give.” | ||
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+ | Your mind is very cunning. It'll always postpone. By the time I bring my right hand my mind will say, ‘Wait, wait, why unnecessarily this cup? We can give something else.’ Then ‘Why so much of gold? Let us ask what is his problem and see. Whatever is necessary only let’s give that. Why unnecessarily giving too much?’ Your mind will play all its games and you are done. The whole giving process is corrupted now by your mind. Over. He says before my mind interferes I want to finish the act. So, decide till I achieve this wondrousness, I will not move from this seat. Till I achieve at least one glimpse of that no-mind state I will not move away. Decide that very clearly. This very strong will, you will achieve it. | ||
+ | Let you all achieve and radiate the eternal bliss. Thank you. | ||
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From Mind to No Mind - Shiva Sutras in Nithyananda Videos
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From Mind To No Mind - Shiva Sutras
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[00:01:15]
SadāShiva samārambhām Shankarāchārya madhyamām | asmat āchārya paryantām vande guru paramparām || Namah Shivaya.
[00:01:49]
I welcome you all with My love and respects. Today we’ll enter into the next Sutra. Next meditation technique. Mahadeva the author of this technique, the author of this great book, Shiva sutras. His inner space is so vast, so intelligent, so powerful. He created meditation techniques almost for every possible human being, every possible human being. Somebody asked Me the other day, “Swamiji, how do you know this book is written by Shiva? Somebody else would have wrote it and attributed to Shiva’s name. Who knows?” Anybody who can write the book of this caliber, this standard, He is Shiva, no doubt. He has experienced Shiva consciousness no doubt. Unless you experience… see the very truth, all the details, all the subtle things, He knows. That is enough the author is a rare being. Nothing else is required. Just the very proof that the author knows all the rare details. Understand. Unless you know all the rare details you cannot give solution. You cannot look at the same thing from so many angles. Very small change in a Sutra, very small change in a technique, but helps totally different kind of human beings.
[00:04:26]
Sometimes I am surprised, what sophisticated level the society would have been when these Sutras were delivered. See, the more the society is sophisticated, it will have more mental problems. That’s the truth. You won’t have too many mental problems unless society is sophisticated. Because you don’t have too much energy. You will not have depression if you have poverty; because you don’t have enough energy to sit, eat, find out some reason to get depressed. With poverty your whole energy and time is demanded. See, actually I always tell people depression is a luxury. Unless your basic needs are fulfilled you can’t have depression. Unless it is fulfilled and you have enough time and energy, which is not directly required to be productive, then you create something, you just sit and create some reason to get depressed. I never heard the word depression in the Indian villages. Because they have enough of things to do. You can’t… there’s no time to get depressed. Depression is a luxury.
[00:06:06]
I was surprised when I read the solution for all the problems which He talks about. Then ten thousand years ago there must have been such a high sophisticated society with all the luxury. That is why He is giving solution for all these problems. See, if Buddha is teaching, ‘don’t steal’, means in his time the stealing was there. Thieves were there. Otherwise why should he teach? Nobody gives solution for the problem which does not exist except the psychiatrist. Nobody will give you the solution for the problems which does not exist. Here Shiva is talking amazing things, means, that society which existed ten thousand years ago is highly sophisticated which was having all kinds of problems also. Because solution for all the problems which modern men face are available just in this one book, Mahadeva's Shiva Sutras.
[00:07:35]
Shiva Sutras has got so many books, so many volumes. This I selected from one part. The book which I am commenting, that part is called Vijnana Bhairava Tantra. Shiva start 64 tantras. In one tantra he gives 112 meditation techniques. That is Vignana Tantra. We are working on that book, 35th sutra. We are working on the 35th meditation technique. Day before yesterday we saw one meditation technique. Yesterday we studied another meditation technique. Today we are starting 35th meditation. Yesterday what we saw is 34th. But day before yesterday what we saw is not 33rd. It was the technique which I did not speak during My last trip to Vancouver. We did not have that discourse. So, day before yesterday I spoke on that. Yesterday new sutra and today also one more new sutra. Giving clear solution means, somebody who knows completely about their mind only can give solution so thoroughly, so clearly. Here Mahadeva is giving solution for all the problems. If somebody can give solution to the problems so clearly, if somebody knows about the mind so thoroughly I am sure he is Shiva, means he has achieved Shiva consciousness.
[00:09:59]
In India the Shiva, Vyasa, Buddha all these words are not towards one person. Of course those beings also existed, but in course of time anybody who achieves that conscious state, they are given that title. Buddha does not mean only one Buddha. The Gautama the Buddha. Gautama the Buddha existed, but after his existence, anybody who achieves that state of consciousness they are given that title. Still now all Shankara's disciples are called Shankaracharyas. Anybody who achieves that state is called as a Shankaracharya. The original Shankaracharya is called Adi Shankaracharya means first Shankaracharya. Anybody who has achieved that state is called Adi Shankara… the Shankaracharya. Sometime you will get confused whether the book is written by Shankaracharya or Adi Shankaracharya. So, here people ask Me, “How do you know this book is written by Shiva”? Understand the person who can penetrate into human consciousness so deeply is Shiva. He has achieved the state of Shiva no doubt. So, forget about doubting the book. Let us doubt your mind and start working on it.
[00:11:37]
Let Me read the sutra. घटावदभाजनेदृवष्टंवभवत्तस्त्यक्त्वा विवनवऺऩते तल्लयंतत्क्षणाद्गत्वा तल्लयात्तन्मयो भिते ॥ At the edge of the deep well look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness happens to you. Very powerful technique. Just slight, small difference between yesterday's technique and today’s technique. But there are different kinds of minds, for all kinds of minds Shiva is teaching. At the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness. Understand, again this technique is also about falling in love, falling in tune. See, the yesterday’s technique and today’s technique both are about falling in tune. But the yesterday’s techniques was falling in tune with a living being, an enlightened Master. Today’s technique is about falling in tune with an object. Sometime falling in love with an object is little easy. Because you can possess it. You can possess it. Why people have got pets? No food for living human beings but these guys are spending so much on the pet animals.
[00:13:48]
Actually when you can’t love human beings, pets is a nice substitute. See, the difficulty with opening up to human being is, the risk of ‘no’ is there. When you open up with a human being he may say ‘no’. He may not receive you. He may not be behaving as you want. He may not be expressive. But with pets, you feed them, they have to do what you want. And you can tie them in a rope and put them in cage when you don’t want to spend time with them. With human beings things are little unpredictable. They may have the mood when you don’t have, they may not have the mood when you have. But with pets, things are more under your control. You can choose. Understand but it is very poor substitute. Learn how to open up to the higher level beings. Understand. First level. Opening up to a animal where things are under your control. Second level opening up to a human being where 50% is under your control and 50% is under his control. Third opening up to an enlightened being. Nothing is under your control. Nothing is under your control. That is why it is very difficult to open up to an enlightened being; because you will lose your very boundary. When you open up to an enlightened being you will lose the idea where your hand ends where your body ends. You just relax, disappear into him. His vastness, the amazing energy, just you are lost in his presence, or I can say you are first time experiencing yourself. I can’t say you are lost, first time you are back home. You discovered yourself. First time you will discover who you are.
[00:16:38]
Different levels of falling in love. Shiva is not saying no to anybody, any level is okay. He is ready to give technique for that level person. Understand whether you are able to open up to an enlightened being there is a technique. Yesterday’s technique - Deeksha, just initiation liberates. If you are able to open up to a human being, again He has got a technique. Just few days ago I finished the technique. If you are able to open up only to a animals, again He has got techniques for that kind of human being. If you are not even able to open up to animals, because even with animals there is one danger. They may die. If they die things are not under your control completely. You can open up only to a object. Then you have a technique also. You also have a technique. Here Shiva is giving methods even for that kind of human beings. Sometime people who lived in the forests, who lived with nature, they can open up to an object easily even if they are in high level consciousness. Even if they are in the level of opening up to a Master they may not find a Master they can just open up. They can just feel connected to an object in the forest. So, even for that kind of people this technique will be very useful. It’s more like opening up to nature. Opening up to nature. Even if you are intelligent enough, powerful enough, intense enough to open up to a Master, if you have never seen a Master and if you are living in a forest, you may open up to an object with such a deep connection and that object will serve as God or Master.
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There is a beautiful story of a great devotee of Shiva. His name is called Kannappa; means the father who gave eyes to Shiva. Understand the story says Shiva has got three eyes. In that three one eye belongs… one and half eye belongs to Devi because He has given His half to Devi. The remaining one and half, one belongs to this devotee. Only a half is His eye. Let Me tell the story. It’s a beautiful story. There was a hunter in a forest. That guy, his only work is from morning till night he will hunt animals, cook them, eat, sleep, that's the life. Fortunately he did not get civilized. Sometimes civilization takes away some beautiful things in the human beings. Sometime they are too costly than civilization; means the possibility to open up is taken away in this process of so-called civilization. Fortunately this guy even though lived as a hunter did not lose that dimension of his being. I call this dimension as a sixth sense, possibility to open up. This guy did not lose that possibility. If you doubt, doubt, doubt constantly anything and everything you see, be very clear you lost that sixth sense. Civilization has happened to you. You are now civilized, you can have a big board. I am completely civilized. Now you know how to find reason, how to justify things, how to do anything. Now you know logically how to find reasons, how to doubt, how to justify whatever you do.
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Small story. One day late night ten oclock a guy saw behind his car the cop’s car with a red light sign. He is trying to chase him. This guy thought, I think I can outrun him and it is a county road, remote road. He tried increasing the speed. This cop also did not leave, he also increased. In few minutes there was a big race; went to 60, 70, 90, 100 miles. After half an hour this guy realized he can’t escape. So, he stopped, pulled over. Cop came near him and said… officer came near him and said, “Hey, today I really had a lousy day. Just tell me some reason I’ll let you go. Just tell me some reason I’ll let you go.” The guy thought for a moment and said “Yes, yes. I know the reason why I ran away looking at you.” He said “What”? “Three weeks ago my wife ran away with a police officer. When I saw your car I thought you are the officer and you are trying to bring her back to me.” 😀 You can always justify, you can always justify with civilization you get the power to justify but you lose the capacity to open up. Your logic becomes very sharp, but the sixth sense, power to open up is lost.
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This devotee fortunately did not lose the ability to open up. In the forest one day when he went for hunting he saw a beautiful Shiva’s murti, the Shiva linga. Shiva linga with a face carved on it. In India you will see varieties, different kinds of Shiva lingas. Different kinds of Shiva lingas with different forms and ways and different things. There was a Shiva linga with a face carved on it. The moment he saw that Shiva linga, he saw that murthi, he saw that statue, he fell in love with that. Somehow he was able to open himself. Every day he started visiting that place. He felt the god is there in that form or the higher energy is there in that form. After two three days he started talking to it, talking to Shiva. When you see god, you don’t see statue. When you see statue, you don’t see god.
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Understand, when you see it as a god you will not see that as a statue or just an idol; when you see it as a idol you will not see that as a god. Somehow he felt it’s god. He did not see it as a statue. He started talking to Shiva “Oh, Lord it’s so nice you are here just for me.” And he said “Just see that I get a good animal today so that I’ll give you a feast.” Whatever he gets he’ll nicely cook, not only he will nicely cook he’ll first see taste it and see whether it is really cooked well, then bring that portion, that flesh to that Shiva and he will offer it. See, very strange kind of a worship. He doesn’t have any vessel to bring water and wash that place. So, he will take water in his mouth; he will collect all the flowers and put it in his hair. There is no other flower basket for him. He will collect all the flowers and put it in his hair, in his jatta, the hunters will have a big matted lock. He will put it in his matted lock, fill water in his mouth, and carry that flesh or that meat in a palm leaf in one hand bring there and he will spit that water on that statue, on that Shiva and put all the flowers on that Shiva and decorate him. Put this flesh in front of him and pray to him, “Oh, Lord please eat the best portion of the meat, the flesh, I brought for you.”
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He will do all his puja and then he will tell, “Oh, I think you’re feeling little shy because I am here. I’ll go away, you eat later on. When you feel like, you eat that time.” When you open innocently, the power of existence, the big problem is we lost how to open up innocently, honestly. He will tell, “Now it is time, you please eat later on, maybe I will give you private time.” He will go away. Actually there was a traditional intellectual guy who also used to come to that place to worship rarely. That day he came and he saw all that meat in front of Shiva and these traditional intellectuals usually not only they are vegetarians they are dead against non veg. I always tell people, take vegetarian vow nothing wrong but don’t hate nonvegetarian people. Let them have what they want. People come and ask Me, “How to convince others to take up vegetarian food.” I tell them, “Why, why do you want to convince”? You must be jealous of them enjoying. You must be feeling that saliva when they eat. Otherwise why will you get interested in convincing them?
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If you know vegetarian is good, just enjoy, stop with it. Over, why do you want to convince? Because there must be in one corner of your mind a little ‘tsk.. I think once in a while okay.’ Or that saliva is there in the mouth. Otherwise why will you try to convince somebody who is not bothered about convincing you? See, no non veg person goes to convince others ‘eat non veg’ but all these vegetarian people goes to convince non veg people ‘don’t have non veg, eat vegetarian’. See, the fun part of it. No non vegetarian person goes to convince vegetarians. ‘Please have non-vegetarian also.’ No. ‘Please become vegetarian.’ No. But this all these vegetarian guys, they go around and convince every non-vegetarian person. In our healing initiation, of course that initiation can be taken or practiced only with vegetarian food. With non-vegetarian food you’ll have a little side effect. Your system will not be able to adjust, cope up with it.
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So, when these guys become vegetarians first thing they do is they will go round and start canvassing, start preaching ‘You become vegetarian it’s good.’ Little jealous one corner. Here, this guy who's a great intellectual, who is doing the puja with all the vegetarian tradition way, he came and saw “God what is this? All non veg things are lying? How can this happen”? He threw everything out cleared the place and he did formal worship of bringing water from… in a proper pot and cleaning the spot and did everything and then went away. After few days again this hunter devotee came, again he did his own way of worship, pouring the water… spitting, not even pouring, because he has brought water in the mouth. And removing flowers from his hair and putting it and that fresh meat flesh which he tasted he offered it. Then he said “Alright Shiva you can have little private time, you can taste when you want.” This hunting devotee.. The hunter devotee he thought the earlier flesh which he kept Shiva has eaten. He didn’t know that some other guy came and removed it. He thought, “Oh, I think you enjoyed it. That’s why there’s nothing left, even the leaf is not there.” So, again put the food and went away.
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Again this traditional orthodox devotee intellectual this guy came and saw, “Oh God! Once more this meat, who is doing this sacrilegious act? Who is disturbing? I should see this.. stay here today and see who is the guy coming and doing these things and I will take him to task.” He has hidden himself in one corner behind a tree. Waiting. Who is coming and doing that job? After a few hours as usual our devotee came and he saw, “Oh god! You finished this meat also? That’s nice, but I brought some more for you.” So, he came and did as usual, spitting the water, putting the flowers and he put all the meat in front of the god and started his puja.
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That traditional orthodox intellectual guy, he was about to jump out and stop this guy. Suddenly he saw from that Shiva’s one eye blood started coming. So, this traditional guy got frightened. “God, now I don’t know what to do. Let me just see what will happen. I think now Shiva himself is going to punish this fellow. This guy must be punished by Shiva Himself. Let me wait and see how Shiva punishes.” When this hunter devotee Kanappa saw the blood coming, immediately he said, “God what has happened to your eyes? I should do something.” He ran here and there to get some herbs to treat but nothing worked. Then the devotee who was hiding, that guy, that traditional old guy, he saw, “Oh, this fellow is not bad guy, he’s trying to only cure. Let me just see what happens.” He was hiding and just watching the whole fun, whole drama without coming out. This hunter devotee ran here and there tried to collect some herbal medicines to heal Shiva, Shiva’s eyes, nothing worked out. Then this devotee decided, I think first eye transplantation, eye surgery. He decided, “I’ll give my eyes for Shiva.” So, he just removed one of his eyes and put at the spot of Shiva’s eyes. First transplanting surgery. I don’t know how many thousands of years ago. The story says the.. that eye got healed, got cured. But the drama is, drama doesn’t end there. Suddenly in the other eye also blood started coming. Now it is too much. This hunting devotee.. actually the devotee is getting tested for his devotion. The devotee saw the blood coming in the other eye also. He decided, “I will give my other eye also.” That traditional intellectual person who was standing, hiding behind the tree was shocked when he saw the power of devotion. But he did not come out; he was frozen in the fear, just hiding. This hunter devotee does not have time, much time to think, “Oh God, you are having pain, you are having bleeding, I should immediately help do something.” So, he decided to remove the other eye also and put it.
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Then suddenly he remembered, “If I remove my one.. other eye also I will not know where Shiva’s eyes are there, the second eye. Because I will become completely blind. So, now itself I should mark where that Shiva’s eyes are there. And then remove the other eye, replace it. The donor and the surgeon both are same person. Not only is he donating, he himself is doing the surgery also. So, he put his hand and he started removing the eye, but he was not able to remove with one hand. So, he has to use the arrow to remove his other eye. He needs two hands. So, he put his feet on that second eye, Shiva's eye. Understand, he put his feet on Shiva’s second eye where that spot is there and about to remove the second eye, Shiva appeared. The story says Shiva appeared. “My son I have just tested your devotion. I have just tested your devotion. Whatever you did, if you see from the physical level, normal level it is sacrilegious. Spitting water, putting the flower which was used, put in your head, and offering the meat which you tasted, finally above all putting your feet on that god. But your devotion is so amazing, so great, your devotion is such, from today you will be called as Kannappa means Father who gave Me eyes.”
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Understand only your father can give some part of your body. Only your father or mother can give some part of your body. At least in those days when transplantation was not common. So, Shiva says, “You gave Me eye, because you gave Me eye I call you as My father. Because you gave...” kan means in Tamil eye. “You will be called as father who gave Me the eyes.” The story says that moment he became enlightened. That old guy who was hiding, he ran and fell at the feet of that hunting... hunter devotee and said, “I have never seen this devotion; what you have done maybe not according to the tradition but even your devotion is beyond tradition.” His devotion feeling connected, opening up somehow he opened up to a statue, to an idol, just to one murthi and he felt Shiva is there. And he was running around like it is his responsibility to care. His whole day, whole life, Shiva has become center. His whole being he has become center. That is why he is able to go to the extreme of removing his both eyes, his two eyes.
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Feeling connected, opening yourself… actually if you open yourself anything, to anything, that will become alive; because opening up is so powerful that will make you also alive. As I was telling yesterday whenever you feel life, energy in you, be very clear you are opening up. That is the only thing which can bring energy and life to you. That is why when you are in love with somebody you are so energetic, high, not after marriage. Not after marriage. Somebody asked, one son is asking father, “Father how much it costs to get married?” Father said, “I don’t know because still I am paying for it.” 😀 Son asks the father, “Father, in those days, ancient India, it seems that men will not know about women til they get married.” Father says, “Not only in those days ancient India, anywhere, everywhere men will not know about women till they get married. Anywhere my son anywhere.”
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When you are in love your whole being is filled with energy, means you are open. When you open up, not only you, you make the other person, the object to which you open also becomes alive. When you open up not only you, the object or the person to which you open up, that also becomes alive. That also becomes divine. Shiva is giving us a technique. Here, fortunately still if your sixth sense is not lost, means the ability to open up with some object or nature, if you have not lost that capacity, this technique is for you. Sometime very rarely people escape the social conditioning. Genius is a person who escapes the social conditioning. Understand, genius is a person who escapes social conditioning and maintains his high energy. Fortunately, if you are able to maintain, if you are able to keep your sixth sense alive, this technique is for you. Sometime, suddenly for some reason you fall in love with some object, some murthi, some statue with something, nature, you can try this technique if you are in love with something. The basic philosophy of that technique is when you open up, the whole thing - nature or the person or the object to which you open up becomes alive.
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Let Me read the sutra once more. “At the edge of a deep well, look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness happens.” Understand ‘at the edge of the deep well look steadily into its deep depths until the wondrousness happens’ means until your mind dissolves. You will be wondering, you will be in a wonder filled mood only if your mind disappears. Other day I was telling, if you are in the wondering mood you are in high energy. Somebody asked Me the question, “What is the wondering thing in the life”? I tell them life is the most wondering thing. The other guy asked, “I am wondering about what to do with my life.” I told him, “Wonder about life then you have done what has to be done.” If you are wondering about the life you have achieved what has to be achieved. Nothing else is required. You don’t have to wonder about what to do with the life. Just wonder about life that’s enough.
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One guy asked Me, “I am wondering why so much of suffering. Am I on the right track”? I asid, “No.” That is worrying of ‘why so much of suffering’ not wondering. That can’t be called as wondering. Wondering means filled with joy and ecstasy, overflowing. Here Shiva is telling, ‘at the edge of the deep well look steadily into its depths until you have the wonderessness’, you are filled with wonder. The mind disappears. Understand, it is a very powerful technique. This technique is used by Lao tzu. Understand this book is book of all books. One technique from this book can create one religion. This book is a book; it's a manual for all the prophets to create religions. Manual for all enlightened Masters to create their own religions. This book should be called as ‘How to create enlightenment traditions’ 😀 ‘How to create enlightenment traditions’. This is not just how to meditate. This book should be called as ‘How to create enlightenment traditions.’ This book must have been manual for all the great enlightened Masters to create a new, new kind of tradition.
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I am always afraid of these ‘How to…’ books because they don’t give you the truth completely because they themself don’t know. I always tell people, read from the source, learn from the source. In the initial level if you are inspired by some ‘How to…’ books, that is okay, nothing wrong. But to grow further go to the source. They are like a a sign boards. These personality development programs, courses, books, all of them are signboards. Once you feel the taste with that things then now it is time turn towards the root. From the source learning is little time taking process. But you will learn authentically. Sometime in India I have seen the compounders, means the doctor’s assistants, the nurses, they will start giving medicines if the doctor is not there. By being around the doctor for few years continuously they know for headache black color tablet, for stomach pain red color tablet, for knee pain yellow color tablet they know. Sometime the medicine which you receive from nurse also may work. But it is not advisable to take medicines from nurse. Medicines from compounders who are not trained for it, who have not studied for it. Because they don’t know the science behind the medication. They know only the color matching.
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Same way, these so-called personality development authors and the programs and the guys, they also, sometime they will give solution, it may work also. But that does not mean they know the whole science. Sometime they will miss a vital point. Small story. One guy goes to a personality development guru and asks, “I am very bad with women. I am 33, still single. Please help me, give me some tips.” That guy said, “Don’t bother, early morning when you come out of your bed just stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself you are a funny guy, you are attractive guy, you are an intelligent guy. You will attract people”. Just tell this ten times to yourself. All this kind of funny suggestions they will give and somehow this guy because he paid the money he has to follow the suggestion. He went and did. After three weeks he came with the same low mood, same face hanging long, to that self development guru. That guy asked, “What, what happened? The technique did not work?” “No, no, it worked amazing, for within a week I have seen the best women all over this.. best women in this city. I am just having party every day.” “Then why are you disturbed? Then what is your problem”? “No, now I don’t have any problem, but my wife has.” 😊
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Understand, sometime because within that three week he got married and now she is creating problem. Sometime they will miss vital points. He should have advised him, “Don’t get married.” 😊 The vital point is not given, ‘remain as single as earlier, how you remained, same way’. He missed a single point, a single advise. Now the problem starts. Sometime these self development gurus also may miss a single vital point. Anyhow this book must have been the ‘How to create enlightened traditions, living stream of enlightened being’ Because Lao tzu used this technique and there are techniques which is used by Buddha, which is used by Jesus Christ, which is used by George Gurdjieff. And this book is ten thousand years old. So, we can be sure this is a source book. This at least ten thousand years old because the stone inscription of this book is at least ten thousand years old.
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Lao tzu and his disciple Chung tzu both of them were walking on a bridge, on a river. Suddenly Lao tzu said, “Stop here, when river stops and bridge moves, come back and see me.” and went away. These enlightened Masters are very crazy. You don’t know what they will do. Especially if you are in tune with them, if you are totally open, if you give them the confidence that you are ready to learn, they will teach in all crazy ways. But, they will do it. That’s one great thing about them. Both of them are walking in a forest on a bridge, suddenly he stops, “Hey, stand here when river stops and bridge moves, come back and see me. Till then be here.” And he went away leaving him alone. Just understand, you are coming with Me somewhere in a forest, suddenly I tell you, “Stop here, stand here and come back when the hill moves.” What will you tell? “Eh get lost.” At least if you are intelligent, “No, no, no I don’t want to send you alone, at least for your sake I should come.” You will find some reason. But this Chung tzu is a very dedicated disciple. The story says he made a small hut on that bridge and sat. He was sitting gazing down the bridge continuously looking, looking, looking, looking, looking; decided ‘till the river stops and bridge flows I will not go from here.’ Understand, ‘till the river stops and bridge flows I will not go from here.’ Decided just to sit.
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And now the physicists are saying, even the wall which is static here is not static. The electrons are moving. The high speed the electrons are moving. Einstein says if two space, in the space if two vehicles are moving at same speed, you can’t even say that they are moving. In space if two vehicles are moving at same speed you can’t say that they are moving. See you feel that something is moving only when you see something else is static. If you are going in train, you feel the train is moving because trees are static. If you feel that trees are moving, you will feel that train is static. Sometime if the train is very silent, no sound, no jerk, kids, children they start thinking the trees are moving. They ask you “Father, why the trees are running so fast?” Something is running because something else is static, but everything is flowing everything is moving in its own way.
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This guy decided to sit watching, watching, watching. He experienced the oneness with bridge, he saw the particles in the bridge is moving so fast, the river become static and the bridge is flowing! 😀 Understand if you sit and meditate on this wall you will realize this wall is not static. It is flowing. It is nothing but a frequency, vibration. Same way, when he decided to sit with the bridge he experienced that bridge is nothing but a frequency. It is not a matter, it is not just a dead matter, it is a frequency, energy. Chung tzu runs to the Master. The moment Lao tzu saw him he said, “Enough I am not interested in asking you what happened, I know it has happened.” Because the bridge has become I could see the intense frequency with which he is vibrating. So, it is such an intense vibration frequency, bridge is flowing, river is static. It’s nothing but the technique to fall in tune, opening up.
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Here Mahadeva is giving at the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depth.. depths until the wondrousness. You see, when you feel connected to a well or when you are standing near a well, deep well and looking into its depths, be very clear, make sure that well has got a wall 😀 Because liability problem. Well has got a wall and you are safe. Just look steadily into its depths. When you are completely connected, lost in the depths of the well, you will understand the depths of your being is also opening up. Slowly it will open up till you feel that you are filled, wondrous. One more thing, if you are height phobic, if you have that fear of the height, you will feel frightened; first your fears will come out. Nothing wrong, you can go through the fears. If you really have too much of fear about the height, then this technique is not for you. If you have the ability to open up, this technique is for you. Just stand. Look the depth.
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Actually when you look at the depth, look down, you feel the fear. Because your swadisthana is awakened. Anything awakens swadisthana is filled with life. Understand. Whenever your swadisthana is awakened, anything which awakens your swadhisthana is filled with life. The same thing which awakens your swadisthana, can be used to go beyond the death, means achieving life. Life and death both are connected to swadisthana. Whether you are facing death or life, it will awaken. If you are feeling the fear seeing the depth, means the swadhisthana is awakened. You can use that same possibility to awaken the life also in you. Go beyond death. Go beyond death. ‘At the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness’ until you’re filled with wondrousness, you achieve the no-mind state. If you don’t have a well you can use Master’s eyes as a substitute. Understand. Master’s eyes is also deep, deeper than any ocean. Sometime, in those days during LBP, the sixth meditation ajna meditation, I Myself will sit and people will be allowed to gaze at My eyes. They feel, “Swamiji it is empty, nobody is there inside.” I tell you that is true. There is nobody inside.
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It is just moving; because somebody is there in that body it gives you the feeling there is somebody in this body also. If you realize that there is nobody in this body, you will realize there is nobody in that body also. There is nobody in this body. Empty chair, but if empty chair speaks to you it will be difficult for you to sit and listen. Just imagine the empty chair is there and sound is coming. That is the reason I have to create a body. I have to use a body. Just like using this kerchief I have to use the body. Because I am talking to human beings I have to create a human body. You can use Master’s eyes. I think we have photographs. You can use the photograph of the Master’s eyes. Just sit with it and see the depth, just look into that eyes you will see the empty intense energy. Nothingness and everything; poorna and shoonya. Poorna means everything, shoonya means nothingness. You will see both in that eyes. Both are one and the same. Beyond your frequency you can call that as emptiness or everything. Poorna or shoonya. You will experience that in the Master’s eyes also.
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If you have well, use the well. If you don’t have a well, well it’s okay. Get at least the photograph of the Master. Sit with it. Decide ‘Till I am filled with a no mind state, till I am filled with nothing or everything; either I should be filled with nothing or I should be filling everything. Till that happens I won’t move.’ Understand, this strong sankalpa, will, is also necessary. Buddha, when he sat, when he decided that he will not get up till he becomes enlightened, story says he became enlightened that moment. Idam asanam. “In this seat let my flesh dry, let my bones dry, let my body dry, let me die, but I will not move unless I become enlightened.” This very strength. He became enlightened that moment. Same way decide strongly, “Unless I get at least one glimpse of that no mind state, I will not get up from this meditation.” If your mind knows that you are, you will get up, mind will try to give suggestion, ‘I think telephone is ringing.’ ‘Please come, let’s have breakfast then we’ll continue the meditation.’ ‘It is time to call your girlfriend, later on we can do.’ ‘It’s time to call your boyfriend, why not later on.’ You will find some reason, your mind will find some reason to torture you, tell you ‘get out’. Mind is a very powerful cunning enemy. He will take revenge. He will try his best to take revenge. He will not allow.
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Small story. One old farmer was dying, he’s in the death bed. He called his wife and said, “Please marry the neighbor after I die.” Wife said, “No, I can't marry; after I lived with you, I can’t marry anybody else.” He said, “No, no you should marry, marry him.” She asked, “Why, why you are forcing me”? “Because that fellow tortured me throughout my life. 😀 That fellow has cheated me in many ways.” Your mind will find some reason to torture you, to threaten you. No. That’s not life. Let you be very clear, that's not life. Decide very strongly, clearly, one sitting can transform your life. In the house when you are alone decide, “I will not get up unless I get at least one glimpse.” Sit with the well or with Master's eyes which is far more deeper than any well. ‘Look steadily into its depths until the wondrousness, the no mind state happens to you.’ All you need to do - open yourself, be in tune, look into it, steadily. Decide very clearly I am going to do it. Mind will always postpone. I have seen, people come and ask Me, “Swamiji, tomorrow two days workshop. Shall I attend next weekend? I’ll come to Seattle.” I tell them, “You are seeing Me now. There is an inspiration and mood. If you can’t make it next week… if you can’t make it this weekend you think you’ll make it next weekend? By that time I’ll be in one corner of your memory.” So, naturally your mind, ‘It’s okay, alright. What am I going to do meditating and all unnecessarily; it’s okay, I am already alright.’ I always tell people, ‘Don’t postpone.’ Mind is such a cunning mechanism, no postponing. Do it now. Do it now, otherwise never.
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There is a beautiful story in Mahabharata. There was a great king called Karna. He is well known for his charitable nature. One day an elderly priest came to him and asked for alms. This guy was applying oil with the left hand, and in a golden cup oil was there, he was applying. Just he took that cup and gave it away, that golden cup. But traditionally you are not supposed to do any charitable activity or giving anything with the left hand. The priest was offended. He said, “How can you do this with the left hand”? Karna, the king says, “Please forgive me for doing something with the left hand but I am afraid by the time I decide and move my right hand and pick it up, my mind may change. So, I don’t want to take that risk. It was in the left hand, I was applying the oil, before the mind comes in I want to finish the act. That’s why I decided to give.”
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Your mind is very cunning. It'll always postpone. By the time I bring my right hand my mind will say, ‘Wait, wait, why unnecessarily this cup? We can give something else.’ Then ‘Why so much of gold? Let us ask what is his problem and see. Whatever is necessary only let’s give that. Why unnecessarily giving too much?’ Your mind will play all its games and you are done. The whole giving process is corrupted now by your mind. Over. He says before my mind interferes I want to finish the act. So, decide till I achieve this wondrousness, I will not move from this seat. Till I achieve at least one glimpse of that no-mind state I will not move away. Decide that very clearly. This very strong will, you will achieve it. Let you all achieve and radiate the eternal bliss. Thank you.
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